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[DRobin13]

Aldora92 wrote...

She:

Protects the Wardens documents for hundreds of years

Warns the Wardens that they have underestimated the darkspawn threat

Saved 2-3 of the characters who save the world from another blight (if you include Dog from HN story)

Sent her beloved daughter with the warden so that he has a better chance of surviving

Saved Hawke several days later
Helped Hawke escape to Gwaren
Ended the suffering of a corrupted templar
Ended the debt the dalish owed her
Warned a mage to stay away from demons and blood magic

Morrigan says once that she is an evil witch and suddenly all of her good deeds get walked over...

My firm belief that she is collecting heroes to end all blights and darkspawn corruption once and for all, by beating the darkspawn to the old gods, and saving them from the corruption, transferring their souls or killing them out-right.

I do agree that Flemeth isn't the overall bad guy in DA but I don't believe Morrigan is either. Yavana even says that Morrigan is childish & doesn't understand Flemeth so she runs.

I would be surprised to see Flemeth to be Andrastebut it wouldn't shock me if she was one of the Old Gods. All this seems to go along w/ that theory w/ her wanting to stop the blights before she herself is tainted but maybe there is something more than that. Maybe Flemeth is one of the Tevinter Magistars that went into the Golden/Black City & is now trying to fix her mistake.

Modifié par DRobin13, 17 octobre 2012 - 09:13 .

[scootermcgaffin]

DRobin13 wrote...

Maybe Flemeth is one of the Tevinter Magistars that went into the Golden/Black City & is now trying to fix her mistake.

If Flemeth has to "be" someone, this is the best option, I think.

[Aldora92]

scootermcgaffin wrote...

DRobin13 wrote...

Maybe Flemeth is one of the Tevinter Magistars that went into the Golden/Black City & is now trying to fix her mistake.

If Flemeth has to "be" someone, this is the best option, I think.

I must admit, I did at one time think this too... One of my many theories... I also had one where OGB was the Father from awakenings, and the mirror somehow lead Morrigan, OGB ans warden to the golden city (just as the invasion took place) and the taint from OGB tranfered into the other magisters, creating the first darkspawn, Morrigan was tainted and became Flemeth and OGB lost the taint and was born to be the architect, who said he was born differently to the other spawn...

And another part of this theory, Morrigan was somehow split, one part of her becoming Flemeth, the other The Mother... and this is why Flemeth has the power to split herself into multiple carbon copies.

Modifié par Aldora92, 18 octobre 2012 - 12:20 .

[Aldora92]

That theory would somewhat explain why Morrigan and the Warden left together in the same cavern that we killed The Mother in, why the Mother instantly reminded me of Morrigan, looked like a spider, was called The Mother...

It would explain why Flemeth knows as much as she does, like knowing that the threat of the blight is greater then they realize... where to be and when to be there... who to save... why she seems intent on stopping the blight, and why she says that Morrigan is the most precious thing to her, even though Morrigan tells us that Flemeth never cared abut her... it owuld also explain how Flemeth knows exactly what Morrigan believes in, what she thinks and generally seems to know Morrigan more then Morrigan knows herself. Actually, the more I think about THIS again, the more I am leaning towards this theory rather then my Andraste one... it would be a little like HArry Potter in the Prisoner of Azkaban, where he thinks he saw his father, until he realised that it was actually himself...

[DRobin13]

Aldora92 wrote...

That theory would somewhat explain why Morrigan and the Warden left together in the same cavern that we killed The Mother in, why the Mother instantly reminded me of Morrigan, looked like a spider, was called The Mother...

It would explain why Flemeth knows as much as she does, like knowing that the threat of the blight is greater then they realize... where to be and when to be there... who to save... why she seems intent on stopping the blight, and why she says that Morrigan is the most precious thing to her, even though Morrigan tells us that Flemeth never cared abut her... it owuld also explain how Flemeth knows exactly what Morrigan believes in, what she thinks and generally seems to know Morrigan more then Morrigan knows herself. Actually, the more I think about THIS again, the more I am leaning towards this theory rather then my Andraste one... it would be a little like HArry Potter in the Prisoner of Azkaban, where he thinks he saw his father, until he realised that it was actually himself...

Interesting theory, from what I gather it sounds like you're talking about a time rift of some sort when the event of Origins already happen & we are handling those situations & causing them again.

However, I don't think the Morrigan is a split from Flemeth but if she is then so are her sisters. Yavana was older than Morrigan & looks a lot like Flemeth herself

[Aldora92]

DRobin13 wrote...

Aldora92 wrote...

That theory would somewhat explain why Morrigan and the Warden left together in the same cavern that we killed The Mother in, why the Mother instantly reminded me of Morrigan, looked like a spider, was called The Mother...

It would explain why Flemeth knows as much as she does, like knowing that the threat of the blight is greater then they realize... where to be and when to be there... who to save... why she seems intent on stopping the blight, and why she says that Morrigan is the most precious thing to her, even though Morrigan tells us that Flemeth never cared abut her... it owuld also explain how Flemeth knows exactly what Morrigan believes in, what she thinks and generally seems to know Morrigan more then Morrigan knows herself. Actually, the more I think about THIS again, the more I am leaning towards this theory rather then my Andraste one... it would be a little like HArry Potter in the Prisoner of Azkaban, where he thinks he saw his father, until he realised that it was actually himself...

Interesting theory, from what I gather it sounds like you're talking about a time rift of some sort when the event of Origins already happen & we are handling those situations & causing them again.

However, I don't think the Morrigan is a split from Flemeth but if she is then so are her sisters. Yavana was older than Morrigan & looks a lot like Flemeth herself

Yes, a sort of rift Or a paradox if you will.

Theory goes, the Eluvian does not just transfer from one place to another, it traverses time too, as nobody knows anything of the ancient elven magics I think it can be safe to guess at, with an Eluvian being a doorway to time itself, this could be how the elves gained immortality...

I breezed over Flemeths daughters without thinking too much about it... and while I have only ever played the games, and watched the Cass movie, I can say I know nothing about any people or events on the comics, webseries or books, so I know nothing of Flemeths other daughter... but I guess my only answer would be Flemeth has had countless daughters over the years, and is, infact somehow her own mother... (a bootsrap paradox, http://en.wikipedia....otstrap_paradox jump down to the section "invlolving people" Morrigan is an item in time with no origin...  i thought o this before googleing it, and it turns out it is a time travel theory, who knew ;P)

[Scott Sion]

 

KENNY4753 wrote...
 
 
2) Divine Justinia is actually a mage and the real mind behind the holy war (still in progress)
 
 

 
I said something about Justina being a mage on another thread. I said it sarcastically, but after saying it sort of sounded like a cool twist. I'm also pretty sure it was a response to one of your comments.
 

Aldora92 wrote...
 
My theory?
 
Flemeth does not inhabit the bodies of anybody, but she has many daughters so that Dark Rituals can be performed, with he and her daughters having control of the pregnancy as the female, rather then her having sons and risking others getting pregnant.
 
Andrast is rumoured to have been a really powerfull with, and also reborn as a dragon... it is my guess that Flemeth IS Andraste... Conobar and Maferaths stories with their wives are very similar...
 
I think Flemeth really was Andraste, and wife of the Maker, her quest is to live untill all of the spirits of the old gods are either destroyed, or reborn as innocent children, this would bring the world to a balance, as the fade would not be inhabited by their spirits, and no more blood mages would be made, it is my guess that all demons in theh fade were corrupted by the old gods and are on a quest to gain controll of mages so that they can find ways to release the old gods.

 
That actually sounds pretty interesting. They make Flemeth look like she's up to no good when really she has good intentions. Maybe the story Morrigan tells you about Flemeth was just a fabricated story she modeled after what happened with Maferath.
 
I thought she was evil for a while but to be honest after DA2 I started to doubt. I never thought she might be Andraste however, that's a really cool idea and I hope the DA2 team goes with it.

[Aldora92]

Thanks plnero, I have to say, for most of DA:O i thought she was evil, but that is because of what Morrigan tells us... we have no proof to support her being an antagonist, so I think of her as a protagonist...