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KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

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1. And you going to a place remainding you of something you hate because...?

2.I don't see you going intotopics about Lost making decusions.

3.You can look at the reaction of the people in these ME forum to see there reactions..It clear peole want more ME games. If you can't get over ME3 ending to enjoy any new ME game that is your problem.

1. that makes no sense. I am not going to a place for something I hate but for something I love. I love ME for everything (up until Priority:Earth), that is why I am here in the ME forums.

2. I was using an example. When you said...
"The fact that you love ME mean you want more. Once they make a new game and still not change ME3's ending...You going to have to choose to get over the ending or move on form the series."
I said...
"That doesn't mean I want more. For example I love the TV show LOST. It is my favorite TV show ever, but it ended (with a controversal ending) but that doesn't mean I want them to release new episodes. I can love something and not want more of it."

I was making an example about how just because something ends whether you are happy with the ending or not, you can still love it but that does not mean you want more of it. Mypoint wasn't meant to bring up anything about LOST, I could have made the same point about The Harry Potter series. You can love it but that doesn't me you want more of it after the ending.

3. Yes some people will still buy it but a lot of people also won't because they either don't like prequels or don't want ME without Shepard, whether they liked the ending or not. 

1. But that does not remind you of the ending?
2.The thing is Lost is not a series with an expanded universe. ME is. ME is made tobe able to have lost of storiesin it...Hence the books.
Why can't that be done with there games?

3.People have bought Halo reach, DE:hr, Kotor, swtor and watched all 3 sw prequels. A love of a series can easily overwhelme the hate of prequels.
Add, People who massivle like the first generation of Star trak loved and watch the sequel serires star treknext generation.
A love of a series can easily overwhelme the hate of sequal with new main characters.

1. It doesn't remind me of the endings because I haven't forgotten them. Just because of my views on the ending doesn't stray me away from the forums.

2. That's true. LOST was just a show, it is the story of one group of people just like the ME trilogy we have is about Shepard and his story. LOST could have had lots of room for side stories or prequels. But I was debating your point that just because you love something doesn't mean you want more of it. It ended, that is enough for some people.

I could lso use DA for example. They could have made a game as a prequel for Cassandra's story but instead the made a movie, Dawn of the Seeker. My point is that books, comics, and movies would be best for a prequel in the DA world and the ME universe.

3. Key word in you statement is can. "Can the love for a series overcome the hate of a prequel." Yes it can for some pwoplw but not for all. 

1.You come here and aurgue about the ending every day. This forum reminds you of the ending.
2.In DA they still can make a prequel game for Cassandra. Heck, the made a dlc prequel FOR Leliana in DAO.
Also, DA also does not lock you in the perspective of the hero ether. You clearly not playing the warden in DA2.
3.Well too bad for those people. The arethe minority. You CAN'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY.

1. Actually most days I don't talk about the endings. Especially lately I have been on the DA3 forums and from time to time go into ending threads. Most of the time I have talking with friends on here about things other than the endings.

2. Yes the did make Leliana's Song but that was a quick dlc. It wasn't the length of a full game and it was just an optional DLC.  and the perspective has nothing to do with my point though. 

At least you have a new favorite argument now. It is perspective and not morality

3. You cannot say who is the minority unless you survey everybody who is a ME fan. There are no hard numbers to go off of.

1. Let me be more spacific then...Everytime you go into the ME3 FORUMS aurgue about the ending. Better?

2.Any agruement for a new game with have the aurgement based in perspective. But my point is the the fact that your given a dlc with Leliana perspective did not give you an issue with the dlc. You did know how it is goig to end going in to it. It's also still a game. 
My point is persepective. That way I made this game concept suggestion.

3.I'm sorry. You are the minority. These ME3 forums are not forming with people say they don't want a ME sequel or prequel. In fact they are making suggetions for these games. 

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dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. And you going to a place remainding you of something you hate because...?

2.I don't see you going intotopics about Lost making decusions.

3.You can look at the reaction of the people in these ME forum to see there reactions..It clear peole want more ME games. If you can't get over ME3 ending to enjoy any new ME game that is your problem.

1. that makes no sense. I am not going to a place for something I hate but for something I love. I love ME for everything (up until Priority:Earth), that is why I am here in the ME forums.

2. I was using an example. When you said...
"The fact that you love ME mean you want more. Once they make a new game and still not change ME3's ending...You going to have to choose to get over the ending or move on form the series."
I said...
"That doesn't mean I want more. For example I love the TV show LOST. It is my favorite TV show ever, but it ended (with a controversal ending) but that doesn't mean I want them to release new episodes. I can love something and not want more of it."

I was making an example about how just because something ends whether you are happy with the ending or not, you can still love it but that does not mean you want more of it. Mypoint wasn't meant to bring up anything about LOST, I could have made the same point about The Harry Potter series. You can love it but that doesn't me you want more of it after the ending.

3. Yes some people will still buy it but a lot of people also won't because they either don't like prequels or don't want ME without Shepard, whether they liked the ending or not. 

1. But that does not remind you of the ending?
2.The thing is Lost is not a series with an expanded universe. ME is. ME is made tobe able to have lost of storiesin it...Hence the books.
Why can't that be done with there games?

3.People have bought Halo reach, DE:hr, Kotor, swtor and watched all 3 sw prequels. A love of a series can easily overwhelme the hate of prequels.
Add, People who massivle like the first generation of Star trak loved and watch the sequel serires star treknext generation.
A love of a series can easily overwhelme the hate of sequal with new main characters.

1. It doesn't remind me of the endings because I haven't forgotten them. Just because of my views on the ending doesn't stray me away from the forums.

2. That's true. LOST was just a show, it is the story of one group of people just like the ME trilogy we have is about Shepard and his story. LOST could have had lots of room for side stories or prequels. But I was debating your point that just because you love something doesn't mean you want more of it. It ended, that is enough for some people.

I could lso use DA for example. They could have made a game as a prequel for Cassandra's story but instead the made a movie, Dawn of the Seeker. My point is that books, comics, and movies would be best for a prequel in the DA world and the ME universe.

3. Key word in you statement is can. "Can the love for a series overcome the hate of a prequel." Yes it can for some pwoplw but not for all. 

1.You come here and aurgue about the ending every day. This forum reminds you of the ending.
2.In DA they still can make a prequel game for Cassandra. Heck, the made a dlc prequel FOR Leliana in DAO.
Also, DA also does not lock you in the perspective of the hero ether. You clearly not playing the warden in DA2.
3.Well too bad for those people. The arethe minority. You CAN'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY.

1. Actually most days I don't talk about the endings. Especially lately I have been on the DA3 forums and from time to time go into ending threads. Most of the time I have talking with friends on here about things other than the endings.

2. Yes the did make Leliana's Song but that was a quick dlc. It wasn't the length of a full game and it was just an optional DLC.  and the perspective has nothing to do with my point though. 

At least you have a new favorite argument now. It is perspective and not morality

3. You cannot say who is the minority unless you survey everybody who is a ME fan. There are no hard numbers to go off of.

1. Let me be more spacific then...Everytime you go into the ME3 FORUMS aurgue about the ending. Better?

2.Any agruement for a new game with have the aurgement based in perspective. But my point is the the fact that your given a dlc with Leliana perspective did not give you an issue with the dlc. You did know how it is goig to end going in to it. It's also still a game. 
My point is persepective. That way I made this game concept suggestion.

3.I'm sorry. You are the minority. These ME3 forums are not forming with people say they don't want a ME sequel or prequel. In fact they are making suggetions for these games. 


Yea suggestions like "Don't bother making another" and "Moar Dinosaurs" don't count you know.

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1. Let me be more spacific then...Everytime you go into the ME3 FORUMS aurgue about the ending. Better?

2.Any agruement for a new game with have the aurgement based in perspective. But my point is the the fact that your given a dlc with Leliana perspective did not give you an issue with the dlc. You did know how it is goig to end going in to it. It's also still a game. 
My point is persepective. That way I made this game concept suggestion.

3.I'm sorry. You are the minority. These ME3 forums are not forming with people say they don't want a ME sequel or prequel. In fact they are making suggetions for these games. 

1. Actually I do not. Most of my posts in the ME forums do not deal with the endings. Sure some posts here are there are about them but I do not come onto the ME3 forums to argue about the endings like you do.

2. It was 1 dlc. Not a 25-30 hour game. And we do know how Leliana's story ends (through DA2) whether we play the dlc or not. And with Leliana, we don't have a choice as how her dlc ends. It ends the same no matter what. She lets Majorine walk away and joins the chantry. We do not control the events of the dlc but are along for the ride. In your prequel idea we would control the events happening but nothing would change due to our choices, new perspective or not.

3. Source? There are a lot on both sides but that doesn't mean there is a majority or minority for or against it.

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I don't think it's a good idea.

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I support the idea of a concurrent game...

.....if and only if it sheds considerable new light on the universe during the period leading up to the Reaper invasion and potentially alters the outcome of said invasion.  The only constant need be Shepard stopping the Collectors offscreen.  A properly done concurrent story needn't directly intersect with the first three games' team at all.

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KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. Let me be more spacific then...Everytime you go into the ME3 FORUMS aurgue about the ending. Better?

2.Any agruement for a new game with have the aurgement based in perspective. But my point is the the fact that your given a dlc with Leliana perspective did not give you an issue with the dlc. You did know how it is goig to end going in to it. It's also still a game. 
My point is persepective. That way I made this game concept suggestion.

3.I'm sorry. You are the minority. These ME3 forums are not forming with people say they don't want a ME sequel or prequel. In fact they are making suggetions for these games. 

1. Actually I do not. Most of my posts in the ME forums do not deal with the endings. Sure some posts here are there are about them but I do not come onto the ME3 forums to argue about the endings like you do.

2. It was 1 dlc. Not a 25-30 hour game. And we do know how Leliana's story ends (through DA2) whether we play the dlc or not. And with Leliana, we don't have a choice as how her dlc ends. It ends the same no matter what. She lets Majorine walk away and joins the chantry. We do not control the events of the dlc but are along for the ride. In your prequel idea we would control the events happening but nothing would change due to our choices, new perspective or not.

3. Source? There are a lot on both sides but that doesn't mean there is a majority or minority for or against it.

2. That does not matter it was not a 25 hourr game. The point is that it DA did not lock it self to just one main characters veiw. Even DA2 does not lock itself to the wardens view.

A game that's a side story can be made.

3. Source? look at the threads.. Heck we even have a topic where the devs are asking for suggestions...
Casey Hudson wants to hear fan's ideas on a new mass effect game

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Hexley UK wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. And you going to a place remainding you of something you hate because...?

2.I don't see you going intotopics about Lost making decusions.

3.You can look at the reaction of the people in these ME forum to see there reactions..It clear peole want more ME games. If you can't get over ME3 ending to enjoy any new ME game that is your problem.

1. that makes no sense. I am not going to a place for something I hate but for something I love. I love ME for everything (up until Priority:Earth), that is why I am here in the ME forums.

2. I was using an example. When you said...
"The fact that you love ME mean you want more. Once they make a new game and still not change ME3's ending...You going to have to choose to get over the ending or move on form the series."
I said...
"That doesn't mean I want more. For example I love the TV show LOST. It is my favorite TV show ever, but it ended (with a controversal ending) but that doesn't mean I want them to release new episodes. I can love something and not want more of it."

I was making an example about how just because something ends whether you are happy with the ending or not, you can still love it but that does not mean you want more of it. Mypoint wasn't meant to bring up anything about LOST, I could have made the same point about The Harry Potter series. You can love it but that doesn't me you want more of it after the ending.

3. Yes some people will still buy it but a lot of people also won't because they either don't like prequels or don't want ME without Shepard, whether they liked the ending or not. 

1. But that does not remind you of the ending?
2.The thing is Lost is not a series with an expanded universe. ME is. ME is made tobe able to have lost of storiesin it...Hence the books.
Why can't that be done with there games?

3.People have bought Halo reach, DE:hr, Kotor, swtor and watched all 3 sw prequels. A love of a series can easily overwhelme the hate of prequels.
Add, People who massivle like the first generation of Star trak loved and watch the sequel serires star treknext generation.
A love of a series can easily overwhelme the hate of sequal with new main characters.

1. It doesn't remind me of the endings because I haven't forgotten them. Just because of my views on the ending doesn't stray me away from the forums.

2. That's true. LOST was just a show, it is the story of one group of people just like the ME trilogy we have is about Shepard and his story. LOST could have had lots of room for side stories or prequels. But I was debating your point that just because you love something doesn't mean you want more of it. It ended, that is enough for some people.

I could lso use DA for example. They could have made a game as a prequel for Cassandra's story but instead the made a movie, Dawn of the Seeker. My point is that books, comics, and movies would be best for a prequel in the DA world and the ME universe.

3. Key word in you statement is can. "Can the love for a series overcome the hate of a prequel." Yes it can for some pwoplw but not for all. 

1.You come here and aurgue about the ending every day. This forum reminds you of the ending.
2.In DA they still can make a prequel game for Cassandra. Heck, the made a dlc prequel FOR Leliana in DAO.
Also, DA also does not lock you in the perspective of the hero ether. You clearly not playing the warden in DA2.
3.Well too bad for those people. The arethe minority. You CAN'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY.

1. Actually most days I don't talk about the endings. Especially lately I have been on the DA3 forums and from time to time go into ending threads. Most of the time I have talking with friends on here about things other than the endings.

2. Yes the did make Leliana's Song but that was a quick dlc. It wasn't the length of a full game and it was just an optional DLC.  and the perspective has nothing to do with my point though. 

At least you have a new favorite argument now. It is perspective and not morality

3. You cannot say who is the minority unless you survey everybody who is a ME fan. There are no hard numbers to go off of.

1. Let me be more spacific then...Everytime you go into the ME3 FORUMS aurgue about the ending. Better?

2.Any agruement for a new game with have the aurgement based in perspective. But my point is the the fact that your given a dlc with Leliana perspective did not give you an issue with the dlc. You did know how it is goig to end going in to it. It's also still a game. 
My point is persepective. That way I made this game concept suggestion.

3.I'm sorry. You are the minority. These ME3 forums are not forming with people say they don't want a ME sequel or prequel. In fact they are making suggetions for these games. 


Yea suggestions like "Don't bother making another" and "Moar Dinosaurs" don't count you know.

Casey Hudson wants to hear fan's ideas on a new mass effect game

Theres a topic asking for suggestions I hope you know.:whistle:

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dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. Let me be more spacific then...Everytime you go into the ME3 FORUMS aurgue about the ending. Better?

2.Any agruement for a new game with have the aurgement based in perspective. But my point is the the fact that your given a dlc with Leliana perspective did not give you an issue with the dlc. You did know how it is goig to end going in to it. It's also still a game. 
My point is persepective. That way I made this game concept suggestion.

3.I'm sorry. You are the minority. These ME3 forums are not forming with people say they don't want a ME sequel or prequel. In fact they are making suggetions for these games. 

1. Actually I do not. Most of my posts in the ME forums do not deal with the endings. Sure some posts here are there are about them but I do not come onto the ME3 forums to argue about the endings like you do.

2. It was 1 dlc. Not a 25-30 hour game. And we do know how Leliana's story ends (through DA2) whether we play the dlc or not. And with Leliana, we don't have a choice as how her dlc ends. It ends the same no matter what. She lets Majorine walk away and joins the chantry. We do not control the events of the dlc but are along for the ride. In your prequel idea we would control the events happening but nothing would change due to our choices, new perspective or not.

3. Source? There are a lot on both sides but that doesn't mean there is a majority or minority for or against it.

2. That does not matter it was not a 25 hourr game. The point is that it DA did not lock it self to just one main characters veiw. Even DA2 does not lock itself to the wardens view.

A game that's a side story can be made.

3. Source? look at the threads.. Heck we even have a topic where the devs are asking for suggestions...
Casey Hudson wants to hear fan's ideas on a new mass effect game


53 pages....in a month.....i've seen posts about Dinosaur DLC get more replies.

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dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. Let me be more spacific then...Everytime you go into the ME3 FORUMS aurgue about the ending. Better?

2.Any agruement for a new game with have the aurgement based in perspective. But my point is the the fact that your given a dlc with Leliana perspective did not give you an issue with the dlc. You did know how it is goig to end going in to it. It's also still a game. 
My point is persepective. That way I made this game concept suggestion.

3.I'm sorry. You are the minority. These ME3 forums are not forming with people say they don't want a ME sequel or prequel. In fact they are making suggetions for these games. 

1. Actually I do not. Most of my posts in the ME forums do not deal with the endings. Sure some posts here are there are about them but I do not come onto the ME3 forums to argue about the endings like you do.

2. It was 1 dlc. Not a 25-30 hour game. And we do know how Leliana's story ends (through DA2) whether we play the dlc or not. And with Leliana, we don't have a choice as how her dlc ends. It ends the same no matter what. She lets Majorine walk away and joins the chantry. We do not control the events of the dlc but are along for the ride. In your prequel idea we would control the events happening but nothing would change due to our choices, new perspective or not.

3. Source? There are a lot on both sides but that doesn't mean there is a majority or minority for or against it.

2. That does not matter it was not a 25 hourr game. The point is that it DA did not lock it self to just one main characters veiw. Even DA2 does not lock itself to the wardens view.

A game that's a side story can be made.

3. Source? look at the threads.. Heck we even have a topic where the devs are asking for suggestions...
Casey Hudson wants to hear fan's ideas on a new mass effect game

2. Yes it is true DA doesn't lock you into one view but the games themselves are sequels. Whether we would have played the Warden in DA2 or not we still would not have known how the story would end.

That being said the DA team has always said that Dragon Age is about the world (Thedas). Mass Effect was called Shepard's story. Sure there was more to the Universe than just Shepard but from Eden Prime through the end that is Shepard's war against the Reapers. Everything inbetween that span that we see somehow effected Shepard. 

But I do love how we were not even talking about different perspectives but you decided to bring it up. 

3. One thread asking for opinions. That does not have any proof that a majority favor one thing and the rest is a minority.

Devs ask for opinions all the time but that doesn't mean the responses they get represent a majority of players. Numbers would prove if it was a majority or not. And how many of those replies in that thread are serious suggestions and not just something about Dinosaurs or Killer Pyjaks (something rdiculous like that)

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KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. Let me be more spacific then...Everytime you go into the ME3 FORUMS aurgue about the ending. Better?

2.Any agruement for a new game with have the aurgement based in perspective. But my point is the the fact that your given a dlc with Leliana perspective did not give you an issue with the dlc. You did know how it is goig to end going in to it. It's also still a game. 
My point is persepective. That way I made this game concept suggestion.

3.I'm sorry. You are the minority. These ME3 forums are not forming with people say they don't want a ME sequel or prequel. In fact they are making suggetions for these games. 

1. Actually I do not. Most of my posts in the ME forums do not deal with the endings. Sure some posts here are there are about them but I do not come onto the ME3 forums to argue about the endings like you do.

2. It was 1 dlc. Not a 25-30 hour game. And we do know how Leliana's story ends (through DA2) whether we play the dlc or not. And with Leliana, we don't have a choice as how her dlc ends. It ends the same no matter what. She lets Majorine walk away and joins the chantry. We do not control the events of the dlc but are along for the ride. In your prequel idea we would control the events happening but nothing would change due to our choices, new perspective or not.

3. Source? There are a lot on both sides but that doesn't mean there is a majority or minority for or against it.

2. That does not matter it was not a 25 hourr game. The point is that it DA did not lock it self to just one main characters veiw. Even DA2 does not lock itself to the wardens view.

A game that's a side story can be made.

3. Source? look at the threads.. Heck we even have a topic where the devs are asking for suggestions...
Casey Hudson wants to hear fan's ideas on a new mass effect game

2. Yes it is true DA doesn't lock you into one view but the games themselves are sequels. Whether we would have played the Warden in DA2 or not we still would not have known how the story would end.

That being said the DA team has always said that Dragon Age is about the world (Thedas). Mass Effect was called Shepard's story. Sure there was more to the Universe than just Shepard but from Eden Prime through the end that is Shepard's war against the Reapers. Everything inbetween that span that we see somehow effected Shepard. 

But I do love how we were not even talking about different perspectives but you decided to bring it up. 

3. One thread asking for opinions. That does not have any proof that a majority favor one thing and the rest is a minority.

Devs ask for opinions all the time but that doesn't mean the responses they get represent a majority of players. Numbers would prove if it was a majority or not. And how many of those replies in that thread are serious suggestions and not just something about Dinosaurs or Killer Pyjaks (something rdiculous like that)


2.It didn't bluntly state any more becasue we are taking about a game with differnt perspectives. Also, the devs say SHepard story is over now and now it about a new perspective. They are doing it now. Times changed.
3.The topic is locked at the top of the page by the devs. And it's 50 pages long. Sorry, but if you read it you'll see quite allot of people want a new game.

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Hexley UK wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. Let me be more spacific then...Everytime you go into the ME3 FORUMS aurgue about the ending. Better?

2.Any agruement for a new game with have the aurgement based in perspective. But my point is the the fact that your given a dlc with Leliana perspective did not give you an issue with the dlc. You did know how it is goig to end going in to it. It's also still a game. 
My point is persepective. That way I made this game concept suggestion.

3.I'm sorry. You are the minority. These ME3 forums are not forming with people say they don't want a ME sequel or prequel. In fact they are making suggetions for these games. 

1. Actually I do not. Most of my posts in the ME forums do not deal with the endings. Sure some posts here are there are about them but I do not come onto the ME3 forums to argue about the endings like you do.

2. It was 1 dlc. Not a 25-30 hour game. And we do know how Leliana's story ends (through DA2) whether we play the dlc or not. And with Leliana, we don't have a choice as how her dlc ends. It ends the same no matter what. She lets Majorine walk away and joins the chantry. We do not control the events of the dlc but are along for the ride. In your prequel idea we would control the events happening but nothing would change due to our choices, new perspective or not.

3. Source? There are a lot on both sides but that doesn't mean there is a majority or minority for or against it.

2. That does not matter it was not a 25 hourr game. The point is that it DA did not lock it self to just one main characters veiw. Even DA2 does not lock itself to the wardens view.

A game that's a side story can be made.

3. Source? look at the threads.. Heck we even have a topic where the devs are asking for suggestions...
Casey Hudson wants to hear fan's ideas on a new mass effect game


53 pages....in a month.....i've seen posts about Dinosaur DLC get more replies.

The dinosaur dlc page was aroung for how many months?

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dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. Let me be more spacific then...Everytime you go into the ME3 FORUMS aurgue about the ending. Better?

2.Any agruement for a new game with have the aurgement based in perspective. But my point is the the fact that your given a dlc with Leliana perspective did not give you an issue with the dlc. You did know how it is goig to end going in to it. It's also still a game. 
My point is persepective. That way I made this game concept suggestion.

3.I'm sorry. You are the minority. These ME3 forums are not forming with people say they don't want a ME sequel or prequel. In fact they are making suggetions for these games. 

1. Actually I do not. Most of my posts in the ME forums do not deal with the endings. Sure some posts here are there are about them but I do not come onto the ME3 forums to argue about the endings like you do.

2. It was 1 dlc. Not a 25-30 hour game. And we do know how Leliana's story ends (through DA2) whether we play the dlc or not. And with Leliana, we don't have a choice as how her dlc ends. It ends the same no matter what. She lets Majorine walk away and joins the chantry. We do not control the events of the dlc but are along for the ride. In your prequel idea we would control the events happening but nothing would change due to our choices, new perspective or not.

3. Source? There are a lot on both sides but that doesn't mean there is a majority or minority for or against it.

2. That does not matter it was not a 25 hourr game. The point is that it DA did not lock it self to just one main characters veiw. Even DA2 does not lock itself to the wardens view.

A game that's a side story can be made.

3. Source? look at the threads.. Heck we even have a topic where the devs are asking for suggestions...
Casey Hudson wants to hear fan's ideas on a new mass effect game

2. Yes it is true DA doesn't lock you into one view but the games themselves are sequels. Whether we would have played the Warden in DA2 or not we still would not have known how the story would end.

That being said the DA team has always said that Dragon Age is about the world (Thedas). Mass Effect was called Shepard's story. Sure there was more to the Universe than just Shepard but from Eden Prime through the end that is Shepard's war against the Reapers. Everything inbetween that span that we see somehow effected Shepard. 

But I do love how we were not even talking about different perspectives but you decided to bring it up. 

3. One thread asking for opinions. That does not have any proof that a majority favor one thing and the rest is a minority.

Devs ask for opinions all the time but that doesn't mean the responses they get represent a majority of players. Numbers would prove if it was a majority or not. And how many of those replies in that thread are serious suggestions and not just something about Dinosaurs or Killer Pyjaks (something rdiculous like that)


2.It didn't bluntly state any more becasue we are taking about a game with differnt perspectives. Also, the devs say SHepard story is over now and now it about a new perspective. They are doing it now. Times changed.
3.The topic is locked at the top of the page by the devs. And it's 50 pages long. Sorry, but if you read it you'll see quite allot of people want a new game.

2. Yes, Shepard's story is over. I have said that mulitple times. What you can not get through your head is that the perspective doesn't matter for this prequel. We still know how everything after it ends up. Therefore the story of this prequel would have a weak plot, no major antagonist (since BW will likely stay away from Reapers and Cerberus), your choices will not change the galaxy (it would make no sense if in a prerquel we saved the galaxy from whatever enemy, with nothing to show for it). Shepard himself does not need to know about the event taking place. In order for a game to have a strong plot in the MEU we would need to see some effect on the galaxy.

3. I never said a lot of people didn't want a new game. I was pointing out that you have no proof that a majority do. Do you know what majority means?

Majority: the greater part or number; the number larger than half the total; the majority of the population.

Unless more than half of ME fans (not just the ones that posted in that thread) want a new game than that thread does not prove a majority favors a new ME game.

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We get it that Shepard's story is over, but any story that runs concurrent with events in this time period in the Milky Way will suffer from players comparing events or thinking about events going on within Shepard's story. And any story in this time period or before must always end up with reapers invading and 3 choices. There's no way around it. That is what happens to this galaxy always. So, any story within this time period or before needs to have a very good and uplifting ending that most people agree is so or it will not be widely accepted. Just as Leviathan already has a lot of reviewers calling it pointless because it does nothing to effect the current endings-and these are people that backed BW through all of this. That's just DLC which would not be anywhere near as expensive as full game nor as risky.

Any time an argument develops into a majority/minority viewpoint you had best include every single potential buyer out there. Whenever I've made such a comment I can only say the evidence I have is not scientific but is anecdotal and comes from a variety of places including comments about DLC and added content announcements and reviews. People that read IGN reviews for example should be more pro-ending since those that really disliked the endings mostly abandoned IGN for their hatred of fans. However, most of the comments there over the past few announcements and reviews have not been about how much people still love ME-a great many say they're done with it and made comments that agreed with IGN and others, that Leviathan was pointless as far as content and repetitive as it was running and gunning, but had good graphic elements and so on.

A prequel at this point is meaningless. It's what dreman could never understand about all of those people that wanted a better ending. Had BW listened and considered it I do think a lot more of a variety of game would be more fun and more possible.

A sequel will have to evolve out of one type of ending but one way or another it will alienate a huge segment of gamers. But those that say they love the endings should be able to put all of that aside and live with whatever choice BW makes. Some others that are on the fence will indeed be done with ME and BW for good. A sequel will have real problems but if they had ended or do end ME3 in a way that does it justice (who knows they still may, but that's highly unlikely), it will have far fewer problems.

A prequel might have been fun if ME3 had ended decently. As it is, prequels are tough to do well and most are made for stories that do turn out happier. Not with such futility. And not with this much of a departure from the true nature of the story. An interquel or midquel (really it is a prequel to ME3 chronologically and most of ME2) set in some of the same locations with some of the same types of people will be an echo of Shepard's story. It would not matter how you tell that story or what it's about.

The problem is there's a weariness on the part of all fans. Many that were ok with the EC (mind you there were very few comments made by people saying they loved it), said they were done with ME and BW for good now that ME3 had an ending.

BW does tend to take suggestions and do the opposite-there was a poster on the BSN who posted what he wished ME3 wouldn't be and that's what it turned out to be. Prior to the EC, people posted what they figured the original endings meant and hoped BW wouldn't do certain things and hoped they would do other things with the EC. BW did the opposite. So, it's likely whatever people want will get twisted around. Right now the prevailing or often stated desire is ME doesn't become an MMO or CoD like FPS. I don't think this will end well.

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KENNY4753

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Well said 3D

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3D, you hit the nail on the head.