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#51
Kristen Schanche

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Just to further clarify, here's the issue that was caused:

The challenges in these categories were primarily made up of three tier challenges. For example:
Husk Mastery 1
Husk Mastery 2
Husk Mastery 3

The bug we encountered was that if a player has completed Husk Mastery 1 and 2 for example, and then gains the rest of the challenge completions needed to finish the gold, without finishing Husk Mastery 3, they were now in this situation:

Husk Mastery 1 completed
Husk Mastery 2 completed
Husk Mastery 3 in progress

When the gold medal is completed all challenges that were completed for it are reset Now the player is in the situation of having 0 points completed in mastery 1 and 2, but having mastery 3 mostly completed already. This prevents mastery 3 from ever completing. Mastery 3 now continues to rack points past 100% without ever registering as complete, and can never count for credit towards another gold cycle.

This is an issue with all places where we have used multi-tier challenges. We decided we could leave Biotic God and Tech Mastery, because it is incredibly difficult to fill enough powers to complete it an not happen to max combos in the process, however leaving a number of challenges in half completed state was a much more common issue with the combat mastery and factional mastery challenges.

#52
Kristen Schanche

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Gylukios wrote...

Chris Schanche wrote...

This change was made to fix a bug that was worse. We also cannot lower the value of a challenge because it would cause the same bug. It's unfortunate but this was a requirement to avoid a worse issue. We were aware when doing it however that husks would be a problem and have been discussing our plans for that. When we have something solid we'll let you know.


I thought that'd be the problem with lowering the points. People currently over the completion value for a challenge would be unable to complete it. Nice to hear that you were aware of what the changes would do though.


That's correct.  If we lowered point values, any player who is already over the new value would be left with a stuck challenge that could never be completed.

#53
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I have to laugh because we need a rodent or pest challenge. Would consist of things not normally considered an individual enemy in terms of killing to end the turn. E.G., swarmer points or geth turret points. Husks really belong in the pest control area, not as real enemies...it would be so cool to just spray them with bug spray and watch them curl up dead on their back like a spider.

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Chris Schanche wrote...

This change was made to fix a bug that was worse. We also cannot lower the value of a challenge because it would cause the same bug. It's unfortunate but this was a requirement to avoid a worse issue. We were aware when doing it however that husks would be a problem and have been discussing our plans for that. When we have something solid we'll let you know.


Good to hear that you are aware of the husk thing.  I can wait for an answer, as long as something is eventually provided.  

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Chris Schanche wrote...

Just to further clarify, here's the issue that was caused:

The challenges in these categories were primarily made up of three tier challenges. For example:
Husk Mastery 1
Husk Mastery 2
Husk Mastery 3

The bug we encountered was that if a player has completed Husk Mastery 1 and 2 for example, and then gains the rest of the challenge completions needed to finish the gold, without finishing Husk Mastery 3, they were now in this situation:

Husk Mastery 1 completed
Husk Mastery 2 completed
Husk Mastery 3 in progress

When the gold medal is completed all challenges that were completed for it are reset Now the player is in the situation of having 0 points completed in mastery 1 and 2, but having mastery 3 mostly completed already. This prevents mastery 3 from ever completing. Mastery 3 now continues to rack points past 100% without ever registering as complete, and can never count for credit towards another gold cycle.

This is an issue with all places where we have used multi-tier challenges. We decided we could leave Biotic God and Tech Mastery, because it is incredibly difficult to fill enough powers to complete it an not happen to max combos in the process, however leaving a number of challenges in half completed state was a much more common issue with the combat mastery and factional mastery challenges.


With challenges such as this would it be possible to add new modes to select from like Husk Attack!  Just make it nothing but husks swarming you.  Would be fun :)

#56
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Agree. I already got the banner by soloing reapers and only got husk 1... Some times I even went specifically after husks but gave up when I saw it would take too much time. People who haven't got it before this have it too much harder now.

#57
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Well if y'all can't decrease the point value, how about making the husks worth more or spawning them more? >.> Cerberus and Geth are already kind of harder with more units, make the reapers a pain with swarming husks :D

#58
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Now I'm confused... when I completed Geth Mastery, my stuff kept adding into the Points 3 things I hadn't filled while doing the challenge. Such as, in the challenge, I had Geth Pyro Points 3 not done yet, but other things filled up and got my banner. After my banner though, it kept adding into Points 3. 1 & 2 did not reset.

Does that mean it is bugged?

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VilyaEleni wrote...

Now I'm confused... when I completed Geth Mastery, my stuff kept adding into the Points 3 things I hadn't filled while doing the challenge. Such as, in the challenge, I had Geth Pyro Points 3 not done yet, but other things filled up and got my banner. After my banner though, it kept adding into Points 3. 1 & 2 did not reset.

Does that mean it is bugged?


Yes, and we are working on getting your accounts into a good state again

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Chris Schanche wrote...

Just to further clarify, here's the issue that was caused:

The challenges in these categories were primarily made up of three tier challenges. For example:
Husk Mastery 1
Husk Mastery 2
Husk Mastery 3

The bug we encountered was that if a player has completed Husk Mastery 1 and 2 for example, and then gains the rest of the challenge completions needed to finish the gold, without finishing Husk Mastery 3, they were now in this situation:

Husk Mastery 1 completed
Husk Mastery 2 completed
Husk Mastery 3 in progress

When the gold medal is completed all challenges that were completed for it are reset Now the player is in the situation of having 0 points completed in mastery 1 and 2, but having mastery 3 mostly completed already. This prevents mastery 3 from ever completing. Mastery 3 now continues to rack points past 100% without ever registering as complete, and can never count for credit towards another gold cycle.

This is an issue with all places where we have used multi-tier challenges. We decided we could leave Biotic God and Tech Mastery, because it is incredibly difficult to fill enough powers to complete it an not happen to max combos in the process, however leaving a number of challenges in half completed state was a much more common issue with the combat mastery and factional mastery challenges.

So how does requiring all sub challanges help those who got "locked" sub challanges? If it does not, this fix only achieves that the majority can't get these masteries done in a reasonable timeframe even once. If it does, what's the reason not to do the check once every week for those that got stuck, and otherwise let people actually get the astery?

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#62
VilyaEleni

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Okay. Just as a note though, Hunter Points and Trooper points did reset, while not the others. It was odd, I wondered about that.

Thanks guys :)

#63
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Just going have to play stupid now. Endlessly repeating wave 1 gold, killing only husks. Expend budget, wipe, repeat. Husk farming could be a great new plague on ME3 multiplayer.

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Extremely irritating move.  

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So the real question now, I suppose, is should those of us who weren't able to finish it before today, even bother? Will there be any accommodating changes in the future that will return it to the original challenge's requirements, or anything close to that? I for one would really like to know, as I'd rather not be disappointed twice by doing all three husk challenges only to see it be reduced in requirement again.

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Signed.

I say find a solution for the initial problem regarding the buggy completion, then change the requirements back to the way it was. I know my suggestion isn't easy and will take time, but I think it's only fair for everyone. Also, 250 grabs? Yikes. :o I was so close to getting Combat Mastery...but now I got to lure enemies into cover. :unsure:

Modifié par jandrewcepticon, 17 octobre 2012 - 12:04 .


#67
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born2beagator wrote...

Would it be faster to just constantly solo bronze to get the husk challenge done?



Or solo gold the first 3 waves are full of husks after that they kinda disapear though.  That requirement is too high husks dont give enough points to warrant the 450k.

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No one wants a Husk Mode?

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Chris Schanche wrote...

This change was made to fix a bug that was worse. We also cannot lower the value of a challenge because it would cause the same bug. It's unfortunate but this was a requirement to avoid a worse issue. We were aware when doing it however that husks would be a problem and have been discussing our plans for that. When we have something solid we'll let you know.



Can you allocate the whole wave budget to spawning husks for a weekend challenge? 

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Jhoal wrote...

Chris Schanche wrote...

This change was made to fix a bug that was worse. We also cannot lower the value of a challenge because it would cause the same bug. It's unfortunate but this was a requirement to avoid a worse issue. We were aware when doing it however that husks would be a problem and have been discussing our plans for that. When we have something solid we'll let you know.



Can you allocate the whole wave budget to spawning husks for a weekend challenge? 

Pretty sure they already said doing something like a husk zombie apocalypse would be absolute murder on system resources.

#71
born2beagator

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Thanks for all the response bioware :)

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Chris Schanche wrote...

This change was made to fix a bug that was worse. We also cannot lower the value of a challenge because it would cause the same bug. It's unfortunate but this was a requirement to avoid a worse issue. We were aware when doing it however that husks would be a problem and have been discussing our plans for that. When we have something solid we'll let you know.


husk swarm L4DEAD mode ? :P

#73
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Hey Bioware...here's an alternate solution:

Eliminate the tiered challenges. Just keep the top level one and just the number of challenges required accordingly. Problem solved.

#74
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Before patch, was at 99%. needed about 5% Ravager 3 and 25% Banshee 3. Now I'm at 93% I think and I'm at 50% husk 2. Maxed out everyone and husks aren't even half way to 450,000. Too much

#75
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one question does platinum wave 7 vs Reapers spawn a bunch of husks?
last time I tried London Reaper platinum there was a bunch of husks....