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[unbentbuzzkill]

headaches are fun that's how you know your alive.

[Allan Schumacher]

Kail Ashton wrote...

Guy, guys, guys...guys! didn't you play the 3rd DA2 dlc? "baby maker extreme morrigan edition" ?? He's clearly reffering to that one and the baby you have with morrigan, the main question is; does the game import save data from shooting the baby out of morrigan and hitting the neo zombie archdemon and saving feralden again?

Wait.  I'm pretty sure that that was never intended for public eyes!

[Cutlass Jack]

Don't come crying to me when you find out Morrigan's child grows up to be the Starkid.

[Allan Schumacher]

CLEARLY THERE'S A VERY SERIOUS LEAK GOING AROUND!

(on that note I'm off to bed)

[The Six Path of Pain]

fchopin wrote...

The warden is either dead or turned in to a monster by now.

It's only been 10 years since The Warden became a Grey Warden,and it takes about 30 years for the calling to begin...do some research people

[Perlicka]

Cutlass Jack wrote...
Don't come crying to me when you find out Morrigan's child grows up to be the Starkid.

Good point

[Xewaka]

Regarding the title: No he wasn't. Please stop trying to impose your canon over others.

Modifié par Xewaka, 18 octobre 2012 - 08:38 .

[Fast Jimmy]

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

fchopin wrote...

The warden is either dead or turned in to a monster by now.

It's only been 10 years since The Warden became a Grey Warden,and it takes about 30 years for the calling to begin...do some research people

This has since been sort of retconned, as the writing team has said they did not mean for it to be thirty years after the Joining. Thh haven't come out and given a time frame, but have hinted future references to the Calling would be MUCH shorter, and could vary widely from Warden to Warden. 

[fchopin]

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

fchopin wrote...

The warden is either dead or turned in to a monster by now.

It's only been 10 years since The Warden became a Grey Warden,and it takes about 30 years for the calling to begin...do some research people

According to mr. Gaider it could take from 5 to 10 years from what i remember.

[Zerican]

why is everyone assuming that the warden is male and human? Everyone plays a different warden. It is not like dragon age 2 where you have one main person that is named Hawke and you run around doing jobs or people and get sucked into something that you really dont want to do.

The warden is unique to the person playing it. it can be elf, dwarf, human , male or female. There is no way they can put YOUR warden in Dragon Age 3 and say yes this is definitely the warden you played with even though you didnt.

Dragon Age 2 was ok. I just didnt like the idea that My Mage Hawke ran around without someone noticing me slinging spells around and the templars not saying a dang thing through out act 1 and 2. ridicoulas that whole mage thing.

[Zerican]

fchopin wrote...

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

fchopin wrote...

The warden is either dead or turned in to a monster by now.

It's only been 10 years since The Warden became a Grey Warden,and it takes about 30 years for the calling to begin...do some research people

According to mr. Gaider it could take from 5 to 10 years from what i remember.

play origins again. it says 30 years tops.

[MewtwoJosh]

Zerican wrote...

fchopin wrote...

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

fchopin wrote...

The warden is either dead or turned in to a monster by now.

It's only been 10 years since The Warden became a Grey Warden,and it takes about 30 years for the calling to begin...do some research people

According to mr. Gaider it could take from 5 to 10 years from what i remember.

play origins again. it says 30 years tops.

Alistair says you have 30 years tops, which i think meaning 30 years old not 30 years after the joining. That would also make Mr. Gaider saying 5 to 10 years accurate.

[Rpgfantasyplayer]

I don't think that the warden will be brought back in even as a cameo. Everyone had a different looking warden outside of the basic male/female, human/elf/dwarf. How would they bring in the warden if they all looked different? I suspect that if anything is done there will only be some dialog about the warden just like in DA2. Personally that would be fine to hear about the warden, but I don't want to see a different version from what I created.

[JWvonGoethe]

fchopin wrote...

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

fchopin wrote...

The warden is either dead or turned in to a monster by now.

It's only been 10 years since The Warden became a Grey Warden,and it takes about 30 years for the calling to begin...do some research people

According to mr. Gaider it could take from 5 to 10 years from what i remember.

Perhaps then our Da3 protagonist will have to venture into the Deep Roads to kill a super-powered corrupted Warden, who succumbed to the curse of the Joining while fighting off darkspawn in the Deep Roads. No need for face imports because the Warden just looks like a diabolical monster.

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 18 octobre 2012 - 04:33 .

[robertthebard]

POETICDRINK wrote...

LTD wrote...

POETICDRINK wrote...

*Edit* Dragon Age 3 will be awkward without The Champion if Morrigan is going to be in the game which she will. He is going want to know what's going on with the baby.

No it won't. No he isn't.

Hero of Ferelden died a hero's death when defeating Arch Demon mind you! What WOULD be awkward is him following Morrigan and the demon baby around. We have enough zombie games as it is..

Maybe he died in your game, but he didn't in my game. You can't force your game decision on everyone.

But it's ok for you to force your game decision on everyone else?

[unbentbuzzkill]

oh gee whiz things pile up when you go to sleep ok back to work, first thing nobody trying to push their cannon on anyone it's true everyone played DA:o differentially and although you can claim this isn't my warden if your choices in DA:o are reflected correctly i really don't see a issue. second it's thrity years before the calling happens and if it is retcon and nobody has said a specific time frame it could be longer or shorter so we'll just have to wait and see, But if you have done warden's keep it is possible to extend the warden's life even further with the power of blood. And last if the OGB ends up like starchild from ME3 don't blame me I don't write for bioware.

[JWvonGoethe]

unbentbuzzkill wrote...

oh gee whiz things pile up when you go to sleep ok back to work, first thing nobody trying to push their cannon on anyone it's true everyone played DA:o differentially and although you can claim this isn't my warden if your choices in DA:o are reflected correctly i really don't see a issue. second it's thrity years before the calling happens and if it is retcon and nobody has said a specific time frame it could be longer or shorter so we'll just have to wait and see, But if you have done warden's keep it is possible to extend the warden's life even further with the power of blood. And last if the OGB ends up like starchild from ME3 don't blame me I don't write for bioware.

(emphasis mine)

My canon Warden did this, as he was intent on achieving immortality and defying the curse of the Joining. But wouldn't it be poetic justice for Avernus' experiment in Warden's Keep to backfire on the Warden and actually significantly decrease the amount of time he or she has left?

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 18 octobre 2012 - 04:41 .

[robertthebard]

unbentbuzzkill wrote...

oh gee whiz things pile up when you go to sleep ok back to work, first thing nobody trying to push their cannon on anyone it's true everyone played DA:o differentially and although you can claim this isn't my warden if your choices in DA:o are reflected correctly i really don't see a issue. second it's thrity years before the calling happens and if it is retcon and nobody has said a specific time frame it could be longer or shorter so we'll just have to wait and see, But if you have done warden's keep it is possible to extend the warden's life even further with the power of blood. And last if the OGB ends up like starchild from ME3 don't blame me I don't write for bioware.

Topic of thread:  the Warden must be in DA 3 if Morrigan is.

Random poster:  But my Warden is dead.

OP:  Yours is, but mine isn't, so you can't force your decision on me.

Hmm, seems like somebody is trying to force their canon on somebody else, doesn't it?  It's the same dilemma with the OGB, some did the ritual, others didn't, but the ones that did seriously believe that only that choice matters.  Now I don't know what consensus was reached, if any, on this issue, and frankly I have done the end both ways so it doesn't matter, but to some it does, and retconning it to DR was done no matter what is forcing a choice on people that didn't choose it.

Alistair tells you in Party Camp that you have about 30 years to live after the Joining, so there is somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 years of life left in surviving Wardens, DR or not, from the end of DA 2.  Not all Wardens were mages, so no, they can't all extend their lives through blood magic.  Remember, in Thedas, you are either born a mage, or you're not a mage.

[jbrand2002uk]

POETICDRINK wrote...

LTD wrote...

POETICDRINK wrote...

*Edit* Dragon Age 3 will be awkward without The Champion if Morrigan is going to be in the game which she will. He is going want to know what's going on with the baby.

No it won't. No he isn't.

Hero of Ferelden died a hero's death when defeating Arch Demon mind you! What WOULD be awkward is him following Morrigan and the demon baby around. We have enough zombie games as it is..

Maybe he died in your game, but he didn't in my game. You can't force your game decision on everyone.

And yet you want to force the decision you made in your game on everyone else oooooh the irony 

[unbentbuzzkill]

that's entirely possible and could happen who knows maybe the warden is behind the events in DA3 because the power of blood drove him/her insane.

[LobselVith8]

POETICDRINK wrote...

*Edit* Dragon Age 3 will be awkward without The Champion if Morrigan is going to be in the game which she will. He is going want to know what's going on with the baby.

I think there are a number of difficulties in properly integrating the Hero of Ferelden into Dragon Age III; namely, the fact that the Hero would be an NPC and not the PC. There is also the issue in how different the graphics will be in Inquisition from Origins, and the drastic change in appearance for the elves. Not to mention that some people dislike the idea of losing agency over their former protagonist.

While I can imagine that the Hero of Ferelden who romanced Morrigan and abandoned everything for her wouldn't abandon her, it's possible they might split up to achieve her goal, since their (possible) son (the OGB) has a role to play.

[JWvonGoethe]

robertthebard wrote... [...]
Hmm, seems like somebody is trying to force their canon on somebody else, doesn't it?  It's the same dilemma with the OGB, some did the ritual, others didn't, but the ones that did seriously believe that only that choice matters.  Now I don't know what consensus was reached, if any, on this issue, and frankly I have done the end both ways so it doesn't matter, but to some it does, and retconning it to DR was done no matter what is forcing a choice on people that didn't choose it.

David Gaider has already stated that the Dark Ritual will only be said to have occured in future DA games if a DR save was imported into them. I happen to beleive that not doing the DR will prove to be as important a decision as going through with it will prove to be.

Alistair tells you in Party Camp that you have about 30 years to live after the Joining, so there is somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 years of life left in surviving Wardens, DR or not, from the end of DA 2.  Not all Wardens were mages, so no, they can't all extend their lives through blood magic.  Remember, in Thedas, you are either born a mage, or you're not a mage.

As was stated a few posts ago, 30 years is a maximum limit, and David Gaider has apparently said 5-10 years is more realistic. And I'm pretty sure even non mages can try toextend their lives through blood magic in the Warden's Keep DLC.

[unbentbuzzkill]

all i'm saying is there are a multitude of ways to reintroduce the warden with morrigan if they chose to, They have plenty of things in the story now that would explain it.

[Urazz]

fchopin wrote...

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

fchopin wrote...

The warden is either dead or turned in to a monster by now.

It's only been 10 years since The Warden became a Grey Warden,and it takes about 30 years for the calling to begin...do some research people

According to mr. Gaider it could take from 5 to 10 years from what i remember.

Then there would be no wardens because they would run out of archdemon blood quickly by then.  I think it's dependant on the warden himself/herself actually.  It's probably 30 years tops on how long you can survive the taint.  If anything, if the OGB isn't in DA3 then they could easily have the warden who went with Morrigan watching him while Morrigan is doing her thing in DA3.

[unbentbuzzkill]

@urazz

good point.