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[ImperatorMortis]

Rawgrim wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Here is an idea. Maybe a companion has that ability. Very rare ability. A Tevinter Magister, maybe. Uses it to give advice and whatsnot during conversations. BUT he could be lying. Manipulating you to make bad choices to serve his own ends. Might spice the game up too?

Well yeah that would be cool. Though I would feel hella jealous that, that NPC got the power, and not me.

Though I like the idea of some telepathic/blood mage NPC's being able to mentally manipulate you(unless you have high or decent willpower or something). 

You could get it. Just need to get enough influence over the fellow, so he can teach you the spec. Same as how you got the shapeshifter spec from Morrigan in the first game.

I actually missed learning specialization from party members/outside sources instead of instantly having them. But I think Bioware is going to make us earn out specializations this time around. Maybe have side quests revolving around getting it. 

maslove23 wrote...

I would like to see a "Dragon Slayer" mage specialization

I think that would fit Warrior more than it would fit Mage, but what do I know. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 17 octobre 2012 - 02:00 .

[Rawgrim]

According to the DA anime movie, it only takes a stab of a dagger to kill a dragon. Oddly enough, the character from the movie never taught everyone she met this trick. I mean, if the whole world had this information, dragons would never be a problem ever again.

[ImperatorMortis]

Rawgrim wrote...

According to the DA anime movie, it only takes a stab of a dagger to kill a dragon. Oddly enough, the character from the movie never taught everyone she met this trick. I mean, if the whole world had this information, dragons would never be a problem ever again.

I've never seen the Dragon Age movie, but now I'm intrigued. 

[Rawgrim]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

According to the DA anime movie, it only takes a stab of a dagger to kill a dragon. Oddly enough, the character from the movie never taught everyone she met this trick. I mean, if the whole world had this information, dragons would never be a problem ever again.

I've never seen the Dragon Age movie, but now I'm intrigued. 

Its about Cassandra, being a complete Mary Sue.Kills dragons with one stab of her dagger. The dragons, oddly enough, are CGI animated. The characters are cartoon animated. Looks rather odd.

[ImperatorMortis]

Rawgrim wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

According to the DA anime movie, it only takes a stab of a dagger to kill a dragon. Oddly enough, the character from the movie never taught everyone she met this trick. I mean, if the whole world had this information, dragons would never be a problem ever again.

I've never seen the Dragon Age movie, but now I'm intrigued. 

Its about Cassandra, being a complete Mary Sue.Kills dragons with one stab of her dagger. The dragons, oddly enough, are CGI animated. The characters are cartoon animated. Looks rather odd.

Oh Ok, I'm less interested now. 

[Terrorize69]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

 Since we're most likely/are going to be an Inquisitor I think it would make sense for a Mage PC to be able to learn a specialization that  revolves around Telepathy. 

I mean we've got Blood, Healing, Shapeshifting(Which needs to come back imo), Telekinesis(Force Mage), etc. 

Since Inquisitors are investigators it would make a lot of sense to let a Mage PC Mind Screw, or steal secrets from peoples minds. Especially if there was an option during conversation. 

It obviously wouldn't work on everyone in Dialogue like people with high willpower, or tranquils. But I think it could be pretty fun. 

It's said they are immune to a blood mage's mind control and possess the ability to read minds or erase memories,

I'll leave this here

[ImperatorMortis]

Terrorize69 wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

 Since we're most likely/are going to be an Inquisitor I think it would make sense for a Mage PC to be able to learn a specialization that  revolves around Telepathy. 

I mean we've got Blood, Healing, Shapeshifting(Which needs to come back imo), Telekinesis(Force Mage), etc. 

Since Inquisitors are investigators it would make a lot of sense to let a Mage PC Mind Screw, or steal secrets from peoples minds. Especially if there was an option during conversation. 

It obviously wouldn't work on everyone in Dialogue like people with high willpower, or tranquils. But I think it could be pretty fun. 

It's said they are immune to a blood mage's mind control and possess the ability to read minds or erase memories,

I'll leave this here

Edit: Oh wait I think I misread. This is from the seeker page right? They say that seekers(or some of them) have the ability to read minds, or erase memories? 

It's said they are immune to a blood mage's mind control and possess the ability to read minds or erase memories,

Is Non Blood Magic Telepathy canon? That would be so awesome.

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 17 octobre 2012 - 02:29 .

[Terrorize69]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

 Since we're most likely/are going to be an Inquisitor I think it would make sense for a Mage PC to be able to learn a specialization that  revolves around Telepathy. 

I mean we've got Blood, Healing, Shapeshifting(Which needs to come back imo), Telekinesis(Force Mage), etc. 

Since Inquisitors are investigators it would make a lot of sense to let a Mage PC Mind Screw, or steal secrets from peoples minds. Especially if there was an option during conversation. 

It obviously wouldn't work on everyone in Dialogue like people with high willpower, or tranquils. But I think it could be pretty fun. 

It's said they are immune to a blood mage's mind control and possess the ability to read minds or erase memories,

I'll leave this here

Edit: Oh wait I think I misread. This is from the seeker page right? They say that seekers(or some of them) have the ability to read minds, or erase memories? 

It's said they are immune to a blood mage's mind control and possess the ability to read minds or erase memories,

Is Non Blood Magic Telepathy canon? That would be so awesome. 

Correct, part of the skills Seekers have at their disposal, or the Seekers of old anyway. If they still have skills now or the knowledge is lost, we don't know.

And yes non-blood magic telepathy is canon

[ImperatorMortis]

Terrorize69 wrote...

Correct, part of the skills Seekers have at their disposal, or the Seekers of old anyway. If they still have skills now or the knowledge is lost, we don't know.

And yes non-blood magic telepathy is canon

That is pretty amazing.  If this is correct it would suggest that a large ammount of Seekers are Mages, and even the Templars fear them. 

Maybe the Seekers recruit from circles? I'd love to see a Templar get nervous infront of his Seeker Mage superior. That would make my day. 

Also if Templars fear them maybe Telepathy is similar to Blood Magic in that its unblockable by Templar abilities? 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 17 octobre 2012 - 02:33 .

[Terrorize69]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Correct, part of the skills Seekers have at their disposal, or the Seekers of old anyway. If they still have skills now or the knowledge is lost, we don't know.

And yes non-blood magic telepathy is canon

That is pretty amazing.  If this is correct it would suggest that a large ammount of Seekers are Mages, and even the Templars fear them. 

Maybe the Seekers recruit from circles? 

While the Templars policed the Circles, it was the Seekers who policed the Templars, looking for those who failed there duty of caused injustice in the Circle (to the mages I assume). Although why the Seekers never visited Kirkwall is beyond me.

They must be very limited in number to not visit Kirkwall in the 6-7years DA2 took place, or they did in the first act and deemed the situation "ok" for now.

It could be likely the Seekers would take promising mages from the Circle, and I bet even the templars didn't know. Faked an escape or a death to free a mage into there service.

[Icinix]

It could be a developed skill that allowed unique dialogue options to hear players thoughts - allowing a charm / intimidate like option only available to players with the skill set.

Since I've been craving a return in both Mass Effect and Dragon Age of specialised dialogue - this would be just lovely.

[Icinix]

Terrorize69 wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Correct, part of the skills Seekers have at their disposal, or the Seekers of old anyway. If they still have skills now or the knowledge is lost, we don't know.

And yes non-blood magic telepathy is canon

That is pretty amazing.  If this is correct it would suggest that a large ammount of Seekers are Mages, and even the Templars fear them. 

Maybe the Seekers recruit from circles? 

While the Templars policed the Circles, it was the Seekers who policed the Templars, looking for those who failed there duty of caused injustice in the Circle (to the mages I assume). Although why the Seekers never visited Kirkwall is beyond me.

They must be very limited in number to not visit Kirkwall in the 6-7years DA2 took place, or they did in the first act and deemed the situation "ok" for now.

It could be likely the Seekers would take promising mages from the Circle, and I bet even the templars didn't know. Faked an escape or a death to free a mage into there service.

This is all starting to sound very animal farm-esque.

[ImperatorMortis]

Terrorize69 wrote...

While the Templars policed the Circles, it was the Seekers who policed the Templars, looking for those who failed there duty of caused injustice in the Circle (to the mages I assume). Although why the Seekers never visited Kirkwall is beyond me.

They must be very limited in number to not visit Kirkwall in the 6-7years DA2 took place, or they did in the first act and deemed the situation "ok" for now.

It could be likely the Seekers would take promising mages from the Circle, and I bet even the templars didn't know. Faked an escape or a death to free a mage into there service.

I like that theory. I hate the Chantry a lot less now. I'm certainly not expecting the Seekers/Inquisitors to be a huge organization. But I hope they recruit a decent ammount of them(like 50-100 or so). Thedas is a pretty big place. 

Oh, and to repeat myself since I edited my post a bit late. Maybe Telepathy is a type of magic thats unblockable like Blood Magic. And thats part of the reason why Templars fear them? 

Icinix wrote...

It could be a developed skill that allowed unique dialogue options to hear players thoughts - allowing a charm / intimidate like option only available to players with the skill set.

Since I've been craving a return in both Mass Effect and Dragon Age of specialised dialogue - this would be just lovely.

Me too. I missed the option to persuade, and intimidate. I mean you still have that in DA2 but I hate that the only way to obtain it is to shoe horn yourself into one personality type. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 17 octobre 2012 - 02:44 .

[Terrorize69]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

While the Templars policed the Circles, it was the Seekers who policed the Templars, looking for those who failed there duty of caused injustice in the Circle (to the mages I assume). Although why the Seekers never visited Kirkwall is beyond me.

They must be very limited in number to not visit Kirkwall in the 6-7years DA2 took place, or they did in the first act and deemed the situation "ok" for now.

It could be likely the Seekers would take promising mages from the Circle, and I bet even the templars didn't know. Faked an escape or a death to free a mage into there service.

I like that theory. I hate the Chantry a lot less now. I'm certainly not expecting the Seekers/Inquisitors to be a huge organization. But I hope they recruit a decent ammount of them(like 50-100 or so). Thedas is a pretty big place. 

Oh, and to repeat myself since I edited my post a bit late. Maybe Telepathy is a type of magic thats unblockable like Blood Magic. And thats part of the reason why Templars fear them? 

Well seeing as blood magic can overcome Templars but can't overcome Seekers, I'd assume "Telepathy" is unblockable. But I doubt it's easy or instant, my guess would be close range to physical contact is needed to break down the will of the "victim".

Otherwise no one would be able to oppose the Chantry ever if Seekers could read minds across long distances with ease.

But it raises the question why this was never used on Varric to get the truth about Hawke. Either Cass and none of the other Seekers present have the skills, Dwarfs are highly resistant or immune, a very select few have the skill like a handfull, or the skill has been lost over the ages.

Modifié par Terrorize69, 17 octobre 2012 - 03:04 .

[ImperatorMortis]

Terrorize69 wrote...

Well seeing as blood magic can overcome Templars but can't overcome Seekers, I'd assume "Telepathy" is unblockable. But I doubt it's easy or instant, my guess would be close range to physical contact is needed to break down the will of the "victim".

Otherwise no one would be able to oppose the Chantry ever if Seekers could read minds across long distances with ease.

But it raises the question why this was never used on Varric to get the truth about Hawke. Either Cass and none of the other Seekers present have the skills, Dwarfs are highly resistant or immune, a very select few have the skill like a handfull, or the skill has been lost over the ages.

Well I think Cassandra is a normal human(I haven't seen the Dragon Age anime, so I wouldn't know.) so I'm not too sure she would have that ability. But it makes sense that Dwarves would be more resistant. 

I think the rumors of Telepathy come from Mage members of the order, not all of them can do it, but it does help their image. 

Part of the Codex says that these abilities are likely exaggeration. But I don't think its all that true, some might think it was exaggerated when they came across a non mage seeker. A non mage Seeker might be really good at gathering/silencing information, but not to the extent of "reading minds" or "erasing memories". But then again opinions might change completely if they come across a Mage Seeker. 

Also this seeker page.

http://dragonage.wik...eekers_of_Truth

It mentions that Templars despise them. Despise is a pretty strong word for a group that on occasion if not rarely interferes with your work, and bosses you around.

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 17 octobre 2012 - 03:29 .

[DarthLaxian]

Josh3598 wrote...
Bioware has said that they're thinking about having you choose one single specialisation instead of two, but it affects the story in a way. So if they do run with this idea, it's entirely possible that we'll see at least one dialogue option using Blood Magic to mind control.

firstly: i hope not (why? - because i hate being forced down a specific path...i want to be able to use more special-skills/spells not just one (like force-mage without elemental abilities or something)

secondly: yes, i want to be able to read peoples minds and "mind-trick" them (making them ignore my PC (like invisibility in a way), force them to accept bad bargains and get them to tell me secrets etc.)

greetings LAX
ps: i also want to be able to silently communicate with my companions during conversations (like getting them ready to fight because you are going to "enrage" the person you are talking to)

[ImperatorMortis]

DarthLaxian wrote...

firstly: i hope not (why? - because i hate being forced down a specific path...i want to be able to use more special-skills/spells not just one (like force-mage without elemental abilities or something)

What? There's nothing stopping you from doing that. Its just locking you into one specialization, not the other schools of magic.

You just won't be able to be a Blood Mage/Spirit Healer anymore.

[Maria Caliban]

Josh3598 wrote...

Blood Magic is used for mind control, to an extent.

David has said that the person is aware they're being controlled externally, but are trapped inside their own body.

[The Elder King]

maslove23 wrote...

I would like to see a "Dragon Slayer" mage specialization

You're not taking inspiration from a manga for your idea, aren't you?

[BlueMagitek]

Psionics, even when they're balanced, tend to unbalance a game because now, in addition to creatures that have spell immunities and spell like abilities, you need to add creatures that have psionic resistances and abilities. >.>"

At least they aren't Truenamers though. =D

[ImperatorMortis]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Psionics, even when they're balanced, tend to unbalance a game because now, in addition to creatures that have spell immunities and spell like abilities, you need to add creatures that have psionic resistances and abilities. >.>"

At least they aren't Truenamers though. =D

I wouldn't mind some creatures having telepathic immunity. Like Darkspawn. Since they sort of have a hivemind thing going on.