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[IElitePredatorI]

No, Collectors are fine and fun. If you are going to nerf anything get rid of the Geth Prime stun locks and stupid Geth Bombers...

[Pedro Costa]

Achire wrote...

**** seeker swarms. Like there was a reason to nerf powers compared to weapons in this game.

This. It's the only thing I dislike about the Collectors since I'm usually a vanguard and not being able to charge means I'm dead.

[count_4]

The only thing that needs to be nerfed is the whining on these forums. It's getting out of hand again...

[hudder92]

I only have one real problem with the Collectors. The Scion grenade spam. Any grenade class in the game that has cluster grenades. You throw them any distance at all and you are lucky to hit your target with one grenade because the spread of the grenades in the air ends up being like twenty feet wide. But the Scion seems to be able to throw 5 Grenades through a window from across the map and land them at your feet every time.

[Genesis Knight]

count_4 wrote...

The only thing that needs to be nerfed is the whining on these forums. It's getting out of hand again...

 so sad this is true.....

[Gamemako]

-JP- wrote...

It is not.

Anyone who claims that it is doesn't play platinum, that's just the simple fact of it all.

Collector Gold is still hard, but I can do Plat Reapers solo on pretty much any map.

Collectors are just nuts. They do absurd damage, move like greased lightning, have two units with sync kills, stop your regen with those ****ing swarms that have 6000 ****ing health, and generally are a pain in the ass. Praetorians are the size of a house, have a near-instant long-range melee (which, if it hits you, is a death sentence 100% of the time since he'll either sync kill or staggerlock you), block powers while attacking normally (thanks for the power nerf again, BioWare, we really needed more reason to stop using everyone not named xxxx Infiltrator), slide across huge distances, move faster than any other boss, have tons of armor, and can kill damn near anyone from full health with its rape-beam in a split-second. Scions rip the shield off of a Krogan Vanguard in 2 shots, have an evil 3-hit stagger combo, sync kill, and toss 6 grenades at you at a time when possessed;  Abominations are the throwaway class, but they can wipe out an entire team in one fell swoop.

Collectors are so vastly, vastly, vastly more powerful than everyone else it's not funny. Collector Platinum is easier than Collector Gold because you get the reprieve of having non-collectors to crush en masse.

[AkuIaTubShark]

The Collector's are tougher then other factions, mainly their simply (it feels like) 1000x more aggressive (I've never been stomped THAT fast before O_o), but did you REALLY expect them to simply add another faction, put it at the other faction's level and just call it a day? They are tougher, however it promotes more teamwork (If you play that way) then the others. It also shows that each faction has it's own differences from each other.

Geth = Stunlock heaven. That is all.
Reapers = Elbows. Of. Doom. Need more be said?
Cerberus = Uses force to try and overwhelm you
Collectors = Higher level of aggressiveness, forces people out of positions quickly, requires situation awareness higher then other factions, etc etc..

I like them as they are, their the only true challenging faction anymore, the other 3 are just pushovers or cheap as bloody hell.

[STRANGE10VE]

Corgun wrote...

gold should not be harder than plat other classes.

now I know that some douchey people who will try and prove their epeen want to claim this and that, that i suck blah blah, but you all know its completely stupid now. Reapers should be tougher than damn collectors and gold should not be harder than plat. 

Focus on completeing the collector mastery challenge.  Play only collectors over and over again for a couple of days to get used to them.   

[scot15]

My only real beef with the Collectors is thier ludicrous speed, especially the damn Preatorian. Because of it all my wipes against them have come on Hacks or 1234 jobs. They just swarm in, kill, then stomp everybody. I will never forget my first Collector game. It was Gold at Hydra and we got a hack for the very first objective. Violated does not even begin to cover it. It can be done I know having managed it occasionally, but it is never pretty.
In short when playing Collectors equip 'lube gear V'.

[DeathScepter]

collectors are beautiful and they are fun to kill for they are ****s. the bigger the douchbags the enemies are, the more fun to kill.


NO TO Nerfing to Collectors.

[ArdatYakshi1]

tough yes. but fun as hell. collectors are almost all ive faced since the dlc. dont nerf what fun there is. id rather have a challenge than 4 factions you can beat with one hand...

Modifié par ArdatYakshi1, 17 octobre 2012 - 10:50 .

[eye basher]

I've played against them in bronze and silver and they are not as tough as people claim frag grenades shred scions i've killed 2 and 3 of them at the same time with them the abomination you can see it plain as day when it's glowing and concossive shot keeps it away were it's not a problem.

[Delta_V2]

I think they're mostly ok on Gold, but need to be nerfed a little on Silver to bring them in line with other factions (can't comment on Bronze). On Silver, a Scion can 3-shot a full-defense Kroguard (not using consumables, which shouldn't be required below Gold). Getting brought down to shield-gate in one shot as the tankiest character in the game is just ridiculous when we're talking about the "middle" difficulty.

[Clearly Balkan]

Cry some MOAR !

Play bronze & whine less.

[Clearly Balkan]

Eterna5 wrote...

On wave 10 silver 4 Praetorians spawned at once. None of us had missles left, It was a Nightmare.

Misseles on Silver ?!   

[kitty209]

i'd like to see the collectors buffed actually, they are starting to be a bit easy (remember how reapers and cerberus used to be hard when you first played?) once you fight them enough, you'll get used to it, and it will be easier with time and boring with more time

[RedJohn]

ParatrooperSean wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Collectors are so easy... you just can't let them get close to you.

Praetorians = Easy.

Scions = Less easy but still easy.

Troopers/Captains = Marauders with reskins.

Abominations = Easy if you run away before shooting them.

Literally every one of my Origin friends remark about how ridiculously tough the Collectors are, and many of them are very good players. When you get away from all the epeens on BSN that's where reality resides.

And me and my friends think that Collectors are great

They are funny and challenging, they are not broken.

If people want something easier they should go back to silver.

[Xaijin]

Corgun wrote...

gold should not be harder than plat other classes.

now I know that some douchey people who will try and prove their epeen want to claim this and that, that i suck blah blah, but you all know its completely stupid now. Reapers should be tougher than damn collectors and gold should not be harder than plat. 

Cool that people that disagree you are ****s, but Collectors don't need any nerfing. They have weak bosses with high damage and very good synergy. They're unlike any other faction and should stay that way.

[Seekerr047]

Collectors are a unique challenge, not epically harder. You need to be a bit more aware when fighting them, but that's not a bad thing. Also, possessed abominations are quite possibly the most awesome thing in the game

My only complaint is that the swarms have buckets of HP.

[robarcool]

I can handle them as Batarian soldier, SI and Paladin. Not tried with other classes though.
Also, geth are the worst enemy (in terms of entertainment) still, even Cerberus with Dragoon doesn't come close.

Modifié par robarcool, 18 octobre 2012 - 12:27 .

[Random__dude]

What part of them is hard? Please explain why you are troubled with collectors.

Using Warp ammo and armor penetration mod help alot taking down all the heavy units.
Use throw on abominations or any CC to keep them away. They are high priority targets.

Modifié par Random__dude, 18 octobre 2012 - 12:33 .

[Alien Number Six]

Shut your nerfing mouth. How about buffing weapons? How about buffing classes?

Modifié par Alien Number Six, 18 octobre 2012 - 12:37 .

[Iggister]

I was playing with a max health BatSent (1425 shields) w/ Juggernaut Shield V (+20% shields) and had blade armor for max DR (40%). One shot from a Gold Scion still took me down to my shieldgate. I don't believe that should happen.

[Hurkaleez]

Gamemako wrote...

-JP- wrote...

It is not.

Anyone who claims that it is doesn't play platinum, that's just the simple fact of it all.

Collector Gold is still hard, but I can do Plat Reapers solo on pretty much any map.

Collectors are just nuts. They do absurd damage, move like greased lightning, have two units with sync kills, stop your regen with those ****ing swarms that have 6000 ****ing health, and generally are a pain in the ass. Praetorians are the size of a house, have a near-instant long-range melee (which, if it hits you, is a death sentence 100% of the time since he'll either sync kill or staggerlock you), block powers while attacking normally (thanks for the power nerf again, BioWare, we really needed more reason to stop using everyone not named xxxx Infiltrator), slide across huge distances, move faster than any other boss, have tons of armor, and can kill damn near anyone from full health with its rape-beam in a split-second. Scions rip the shield off of a Krogan Vanguard in 2 shots, have an evil 3-hit stagger combo, sync kill, and toss 6 grenades at you at a time when possessed;  Abominations are the throwaway class, but they can wipe out an entire team in one fell swoop.

Collectors are so vastly, vastly, vastly more powerful than everyone else it's not funny. Collector Platinum is easier than Collector Gold because you get the reprieve of having non-collectors to crush en masse.

Fanboys need to quit staring at their Shepard poster long enough to read this. Buff them to all hell on Platinum but bring them in line with the rest of Gold. 

Modifié par Corgun, 18 octobre 2012 - 01:29 .

[Locutus_of_BORG]

I love the Collectors too, but IMO they are really hard without crowd control powers.

IMO its mostly the huge burst damage coming all over the place from Abominations and Scions. Seeker Swarms are an issue as well. You need things that can slow them down, and'or play a character that can run away from them.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 18 octobre 2012 - 03:21 .