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[Gorath Alpha]

I believe that the author of the thread that I answered three hours ago

( social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/7161498/1#7161893 )

Would benefit from this article. Hmmm?  I think I included a looped linkage there.  Edited now.

PC Hardware* Basics for Gaming (and inventory of Components):
http://social.biowar...58/index/509580

Getting the most value out of the Graphics Budget dollar
http://social.biowar...8/index/7196223

Video Card Shader Performance Rankings* (DA: O):
http://social.biowar...58/index/128343

Generational Ladders* (and NTK-based shaders ranking list - "old" class markers)
http://social.biowar...58/index/575571

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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 26 avril 2011 - 10:35 .

[Gorath Alpha]

The lowest number from ATI / AMD that represents an actual video card on its own circuit board for the HD 4n00 generation is the HD 4350, and it is still well below the performance of either an X800 Pro or an X1650 (Vista), which are the real, practical minimums (the official minimum X850 was wrong, being a very high performance part well beyond any real minimum, but better covered by software drivers, and an X1550 is idiocy from Bioware -- it was crap compared to this game).

The Hd 4100, HD 4200, and HD 4250 are all onboard Chipset video chip solutions, very slow and very weak.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 18 mai 2011 - 06:45 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Although it was a Mass Effect forum author yesterday, the question has cycled back to another person hoping he can "download" a graphics card, and I always feel that for every one who posts a given question, anywhere from 5 to 10 came through thinking the same thing, but were unwilling to post their question.  Beyond that number, are perhaps another several hundred who never visited any forum, but were thinking exactly the same thing yesterday to what did get posted. 

No, it's not possible to use a matter transporter yet.  Graphics cards can't be made to dissolve into any sort of transmittable form.

Onboard Chipset video chips are the most common type of video sold in laptops, and that type cannot play games in the way that the games were designed to be played.  Many of them can "sort of" run games, in muddy, ugly graphics, and with herky-jerky animation behaviors.  I recycled this more or less accidentally today.  I meant to bring the "Generational Ladders" discussion to the top.  But this will serve, in its place, now (I'm editing the bump-up message here).

Generational Ladders* (and NTK-based shaders ranking list - "old" class markers)

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/575571

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 19 mai 2011 - 12:04 .

[Thandal N'Lyman]

The current generation of laptops are getting decent gaming graphics.  If you're willing to spend the money!

Check these specs for nVidia's latest "M"obile series:
GPU Engine Specs:  GT 555M - SDDR3
CUDA Cores 144
Processor Clock (MHz) 1180 MHz
Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec) Up to 14.2
Memory Specs:
Memory Clock (MHz) 900 MHz
Standard Memory Config DDR3
Memory Interface Width 192-bit
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) 43.2
Feature Support:
NVIDIA 3D Vision Ready  
NVIDIA Optimus Technology  
Hardware Video Decode Acceleration  
NVIDIA Verde Drivers  
NVIDIA PhysX™-ready  
NVIDIA CUDA™ Technology  
Microsoft DirectX 11

(Now what the OP has is another story... )

[Gorath Alpha]

The problem that I see with laptops is cost. The manufacturers are cutting corners to keep the prices down. NetBooks are very inexpensive, and not actually supposed to compete with actual PCs, but the buyers don't pay attention to that, they just want "more" for "less". Instead of Sandy Bridge, the typical laptop still has a three year old Intel Chipset that costs maybe a third as much to use as the Sandy Bridge CPU and matching Chipsets.

P. S.  I did decide to bring a pertinent (to this particulat thread) thread to the top about the trend to integrating a higher quality video capability right into the CPU itself.  AMD calls these APUs their "Fusion" technology. 

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/79841/1#7421268

This is what Daily Tech is predicting for what they refer to as the Notebook Mid-market:

www.dailytech.com/AMD+Fusion+Emerges+as+Serious+Threat+to+Intel+in+the+Notebook+MidMarket/article21763.htm

And now, the followup to that article:

www.dailytech.com/AMD+Ships+Llano+ASeries+Looks+to+Punish+Intel+on+the+Budget+End/article21898.htm

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 14 juin 2011 - 05:36 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Any PC with only Intel for video cannot be considered to be a "games-capable" PC. Intel's Ivy Bridge still falls well short of that class. The fact that some computers that have no actual video card have been used playing DA:O hasn't changed the fact that the game was designed to play better than any such low quality hardware allows.

The fact remains that there is no tech support for playing games on such poor systems. Those who persist should EXPECT constant problems, and over the long term, should expect gradual deterioration of the machine's capabilities as the overstress and overheat take their toll.