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[Ryan80537]

Lone Wolf was my first banner unlocked. I changed it once I unlocked more banners because I didn't want the squad to think I'm not a team player.

Modifié par Ryan80537, 17 octobre 2012 - 06:41 .

[Big Jack Shepard]

Is this thread about me?

[DVS27t]

ParatrooperSean wrote...

DVS27t wrote...

People don't understand that there is an aspect to solo'ing which makes it significantly easier.  That is spawn control.  When you solo, enemies come from 1 spawn typically and just funnel to you. So long as you have a tanky high DPS build, you can knock them down before they swarm you while moving around enough to stay alive.  When you have randoms running and and spawn wrecking, it adds an element of surprise you don't get when solo'ing.  At this point, I only solo to get challenges like turrets done that way I can force my turrets to kill things and others won't take the kills before my weak a55 turrets can finish the job.

If there is an aspect that's easier it's so negligible that it's not even worth mentioning. In totality soloing is substantially more difficult than playing on a team. There are tons of solid Gold team players who can't even solo Silver, or even Bronze. 

In my opinion all players should practice soloing because it will help them become stronger team members. The Lone Wolf banner kicked me in the butt to finally learning to solo. I've already started noticing an improvement in my team play. Keep in mind, a player still must *choose* to play as a team.

The only thing you need for solo'ing ANY difficulty is map knowledge (which isn't hard I had it in the first week of playing) and massive DPS.  If you select the map, you don't even need to be tanky.  Sorry, but no, solo'ing makes you a worse team player overall.

[flibber89-2]

Banners are going to be a bit of a false misnomer.. there does seem to be quite a few lone wolf vs. other types of banners although I think mathematician & biotic god are plentiful as well.. anyways you will never know how the person got the banner.. I suspect that the solo banner can be had if a team goes to wave 11 and then all other players quit to leave the one person for extraction although I haven't tested this theory.. or using environmental advantages on maps like Hydra or the cargo containers on Rio which will definitely not reflect a players skill.. It would also be nice if like soloing the other challanges had diff levels apply (some do).. different banner for say reapers points on bronze vs reaper points earned on platinum.. or even have number in the banner telling how many games it took to reach.. then you could tell something... Used to think the dog of war banner would be a good indicator but another example getting headshots on collector gold is a lot different than getting headshots on bronze with stasis and a good weapon.

[Tankcommander]

Computron2000 wrote...

If you solo a bit, you would know the difference between normal play and soloing. When you solo, you can count on everything on the map going after you. This lets you control the flow of the battle. In normal play, the spawn is pulled in 4 directions and if one guy drops, those targetting the dropped character will immediately retarget, which can cause problems for someone who does not factor that into account. This together with lag on non-host (all solos are host) can cause problems. The guy could be bad or he could have the wrong mindset at the start (solo mindset rather than pug mindset)

This is a good point. It is somewhat difficult for me to solo because I like to chase after my prey...and never fails one random enemy pops up and blasts me and kills me. The stimpacks on the Turian Ghost made the gold solos easymode tho...

[ntrisley]

I think the Lone Wolf banner should not have been added.

What's the point of a "Solo" banner for a "Team" game mode? Letting people know that you can pick/choose a Map/Enemy type and solo it?

Ohhh boy! Aren't you awesome!

[ripper000]

ntrisley wrote...

I think the Lone Wolf banner should not have been added.

What's the point of a "Solo" banner for a "Team" game mode? Letting people know that you can pick/choose a Map/Enemy type and solo it?

Ohhh boy! Aren't you awesome!

yes....yes i am

[Rokayt]

I look at the lone wolf banner as "Not afraid to use consummables"

This is the only thing that has been consistent amongst my lone wolf experiences.

Otherwise, they are normal players.

Modifié par Rokayt, 17 octobre 2012 - 08:07 .

[NucularPikinic]

I've noticed that Lone Wolf banners seem to indicate that the player is going to focus on damage output alone while letting everyone else do the objectives and reviving.

[Ashen One]

ripper000 wrote...

ntrisley wrote...

I think the Lone Wolf banner should not have been added.

What's the point of a "Solo" banner for a "Team" game mode? Letting people know that you can pick/choose a Map/Enemy type and solo it?

Ohhh boy! Aren't you awesome!

yes....yes i am

+1

Most PUGs I've been in since Retaliation dropped have ended with me soloing waves anyway, since people still try to camp on FBW, they don't know how to fight Dragoons, would rather focus fire on the Scion that I'm going to kill in 2 shots anyway and ignore the Abominations, Captains, ect....

There should be a banner for carrying bad teams.

[jaydubs67]

ntrisley wrote...

I think the Lone Wolf banner should not have been added.

What's the point of a "Solo" banner for a "Team" game mode? Letting people know that you can pick/choose a Map/Enemy type and solo it?

Ohhh boy! Aren't you awesome!

I just got my Mathemagician banner, and I was gonna wear that one for a while.  But I've decided to switch back to Lone Wolf based on this post.  

It seems that for some people, it really rustles their jimmies.  And that amuses me.    

[ParatrooperSean]

DVS27t wrote...
The only thing you need for solo'ing ANY difficulty is map knowledge (which isn't hard I had it in the first week of playing) and massive DPS.  If you select the map, you don't even need to be tanky.  Sorry, but no, solo'ing makes you a worse team player overall.

If that's all you need and you had map knowledge the first week... 

You're essentially saying you could solo Platinum in your first week of play if only given a proper loadout.

Wrong. After a week nobody including you could possibly even solo Bronze, let alone Platinum. And if you claim otherwise I'm just going to laugh. Soloing involves all the same survival skills as team play, such as situational awareness, cover use, reflexes, etc., only to a greater degree.

With a team you have 3 more sets of eyes and generally 1/4th the amount of enemies to deal with.

But all of this is moot because the vast majority who solo play on teams as well 

[ToaOrka]

I call a case of ****ty players.

I'm a "Lone Wolf" that can solo, not one that tries to solo even when he's got a team - I play Volus and usually stick with teammates unless I've got snipers and I'm working on the head-shot part of Combat Mastery - and even then I'll stick close by in case of **** hitting the fan.

[upinya slayin]

Ashen Earth wrote...

ripper000 wrote...

ntrisley wrote...

I think the Lone Wolf banner should not have been added.

What's the point of a "Solo" banner for a "Team" game mode? Letting people know that you can pick/choose a Map/Enemy type and solo it?

Ohhh boy! Aren't you awesome!

yes....yes i am

+1

Most PUGs I've been in since Retaliation dropped have ended with me soloing waves anyway, since people still try to camp on FBW, they don't know how to fight Dragoons, would rather focus fire on the Scion that I'm going to kill in 2 shots anyway and ignore the Abominations, Captains, ect....

There should be a banner for carrying bad teams.

lol the carry badge. for doubling eveyrones output 20 games.
it has a picture of shepard giving a piggy back ride to his squad

[Geek]

Chealec wrote...

I'm beginning to suspect Lone Wolf means "I am going to Rambo it, fall over and get stomped on before the team can get to me and then, when I fail to top the scoreboard, quit as soon as the match is over".

Ironically earning the Lone Wolf banner is generally earned by the opposite style of play. When I solo gold the last thing I do is run head first into a group of enemies. Instead it involves using lots of cover, isolating enemies and in most cases playing it safe.

[Zero132132]

upinya slayin wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

ripper000 wrote...

ntrisley wrote...

I think the Lone Wolf banner should not have been added.

What's the point of a "Solo" banner for a "Team" game mode? Letting people know that you can pick/choose a Map/Enemy type and solo it?

Ohhh boy! Aren't you awesome!

yes....yes i am

+1

Most PUGs I've been in since Retaliation dropped have ended with me soloing waves anyway, since people still try to camp on FBW, they don't know how to fight Dragoons, would rather focus fire on the Scion that I'm going to kill in 2 shots anyway and ignore the Abominations, Captains, ect....

There should be a banner for carrying bad teams.

lol the carry badge. for doubling eveyrones output 20 games.
it has a picture of shepard giving a piggy back ride to his squad

Nah, if they were going to do this, it should be based on how many waves fought and damage dealt after everyone else on the team wiped. Or maybe I just say that because I can only double everyone's damage output if they're ASTOUNDINGLY bad and if I'm on my game. Doesn't have to be that severe to know that you carried, though.

[ParatrooperSean]

I'm beginning to think some (not all) of the Lone Wolf hate is sour grapes.

[synapsefire]

Rokayt wrote...

I look at the lone wolf banner as "Not afraid to use consummables"

This is the only thing that has been consistent amongst my lone wolf experiences.

Otherwise, they are normal players.

This might be accurate. And if  so makes them much better players than the average pug, by a large margin.

[megabeast37215]

It's one of the easiest banners to get, and one of the quickest also... this means you'll see it more often than others... translation... it means they can solo Gold with a Kroguard vs Geth... which really doesn't mean anything other than they possess a Cyclonic Modulator IV.

[johnstreetmusic]

NucularPikinic wrote...

I've noticed that Lone Wolf banners seem to indicate that the player is going to focus on damage output alone while letting everyone else do the objectives and reviving.

[BIOFAN]

to me it means, im gonna play as fast as i can to get some points into whatever challenge im werking on and if i get insta-kill and the other 3 ****s cant finish the wave then... :innocent:

of course im leaving as soon as the match ends in failure lol 

im not carrying anybody, that would take even more time!! 


btw, i've never been one that cared about the scoreboard at the end of the match and have never soloed beyond silver before the challenge was implemented last week.  that means i soloed 2 games of gold and 1 of platinum since the game came out. 

by all means, im not an expert soloing and chances are im not playing with either of the characters i used to solo those 3 games lol 

but, what the hell, its the only banner i have unlocked so far so im using it!! 

Modifié par BIOFAN, 17 octobre 2012 - 09:33 .

[Zero132132]

NucularPikinic wrote...

I've noticed that Lone Wolf banners seem to indicate that the player is going to focus on damage output alone while letting everyone else do the objectives and reviving.

That seems odd... when you're alone, no one else is there to do the objectives. You sure you haven't just seen like 2 people with the banner and decided that this is how all 'Lone Wolf' banner holders are?

[Yosuke]

There should be a "clutch" banner with Michael Jordan as the pic.

Only obtainable by getting a certain amount of points on each difficulty and finishing the wave after everyone else on your team is dead, and only with full teams.

Lone Wolf doesn't mean much, which is why I don't use it. Pretty easy to get, and doesn't say that you can solo gold or plat beyond one class/build/map/enemy setup. In U/U (which is all I play) and with characters specced more for playing on a team than solo, lone wolves are far from guaranteed to be able to solo.

Modifié par Yosuke, 17 octobre 2012 - 09:28 .

[thegamefreek78648]

The thing is, and some one has probably said this already, the lone wolf challenge is the easiest to do so a lot of people do it to get their banner.

[HolyAvenger]

Just did a Collector Gold extract on Hazard Ghost with a Biotic God, a War Dog and a Collector General (I'm a Mathemagician). Team lived up to its billing, clearing Praetorians and Possessed Scions together, objective waves were done quickly and revives were quick and plentiful with medigels and rockets used as needed.

I was very happy with that PUG. So if Vheom, Liber87 and that other guy see this post...well done, you all earned your banners.

Not a single Lone Wolf there, I'll note.

Modifié par HolyAvenger, 17 octobre 2012 - 09:33 .