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Emm_a

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 Haven't added Slam and Defense Matrix into MP?  They have been requested time and time again since launch and 4 DLCs later we still don't have them.  Is there a specific reason why you have not added them?  They shouldn't be that hard to implement. Slam would have been perfect on the Krogan Shaman and Defense Matrix for the new Geth Trooper.

Modifié par Emm_a, 17 octobre 2012 - 02:46 .


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LeTtRrZ

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I think either there are technical difficulties or they will be on some new characters.

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elPrimoFilipino

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Both of those powers would have fit those characters perfectly.

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Completely agreed, Slam was so perfectly thematically fitting for a krogan adept, huge wasted opportunity. Ditto with Def Matrix on the Geth Trooper.

These powers have been requested since before the first DLC. I'd really like to know if there's a technical reason they've been overlooked or if it's just a matter of "we didn't feel like it".

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They should've gave Shaman a Slam.
Imagine Shaman roaring 'MURARHHHHH' each time they use Slam.

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I'm curious as well. Personally I loved slam in ME2 although I haven't really used it in this game other than a couple of times. If it still functions as both a detonator/setup it could make for some interesting times.

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I though I recalled that the Geth Trooper does have Defense Matrix from when all the classes were shown, but maybe I'm hallucinating.

Edit: I lied it's fortification.

Modifié par Clivemax69, 17 octobre 2012 - 02:54 .


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Emm_a

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I know it wouldn't be possible, but imagine slamming a Brute? It would be the most amazing thing ever

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UpirNoir

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Yeah, thematicly Slam would have fit the Krogan Shaman like a glove. but they would have to make the power worth while, because the way it is set up now, it's just useless

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elPrimoFilipino

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Clivemax69 wrote...

I though I recalled that the Geth Trooper does have Defense Matrix from when all the classes were shown, but maybe I'm hallucinating.


They assigned the Geth Trooper fortification, as well as flamer and hunter mode.

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Emm_a

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Clivemax69 wrote...

I though I recalled that the Geth Trooper does have Defense Matrix from when all the classes were shown, but maybe I'm hallucinating.

Yea you're hallucinating lol I recall him having Flamer.  I don't remember the other 2

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Emm_a

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Ninja'd:ph34r:

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Emm_a wrote...

I know it wouldn't be possible, but imagine slamming a Brute? It would be the most amazing thing ever


Just the thought of it puts a smile on my face..! :o

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Slam would be IMO pretty useless in MP. Sure, it would look cool, but thats about it.
The lack of Defense Matrix may seem somewhat surprising. Then again its basically a stimulant pack that does not consume grenades and provides passive bonuses...

I am more surprised about the lack of Defense Drone, since Annihilation Field is basically its biotic variant.

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On a more serious note to my frivolous response about slamming brutes. I didn't realize so many other people had been asking for slam for so long. I'm not the only one! If so many people are asking for it it's a must have.

I actually did an unnoticed post the week before retaliation came out with my ideas for new content some of which were very similar to what we got. Top of my list for characters... Slam! Take a look

Come on Bioware. You know you want to...!

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uzivatel wrote...

Slam would be IMO pretty useless in MP. Sure, it would look cool, but thats about it.
The lack of Defense Matrix may seem somewhat surprising. Then again its basically a stimulant pack that does not consume grenades and provides passive bonuses...

I am more surprised about the lack of Defense Drone, since Annihilation Field is basically its biotic variant.


If they gave it a pretty big radius evolution it would be useful for picking out the unshielded mooks in a pack of enemies.

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Slam would have been perfect on the Krogan Shaman and Defense Matrix for the new Geth Trooper.
With some tweaks to slam of course

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Slam would have to work like Lash, because it's basically useless against shielded enemies.

Against a boss, what would Slam do? And Krogans aren't the type to worry about grunt level enemies, they go after big game. Slam would have needed a major redesign from the campaign, in the manner of Singularity.

Otherwise, it would just feel like Pull with a finisher for damage.

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We've discussed slam a few times. But for it to become useful and viable in MP we would need to look at changing its functionality quite a bit. Since we cannot allow ragdoll effects on enemies with armor, this power would really only be useful for killing baseline troops.

As it is right now Slam wouldn't be much more, if any more, useful then pull, and we've decided not to redesign and implement this power right now.

Modifié par Chris Schanche, 17 octobre 2012 - 03:41 .


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Hey fix that map mastery challenge while you are at it :)

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Chris Schanche wrote...

We've discussed slam a few times. But for it to become useful and viable in MP we would need to look at changing it's functionality quite a bit. Since we cannot allow ragdoll effects on enemies with armor, this power would really only be useful for killing baseline troops.

As it is right now Slam wouldn't be much more, if any more, useful then pull, and we've decided not to redesign and implement this power right now.


Amen brotha

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Chris Schanche wrote...

We've discussed slam a few times. But for it to become useful and viable in MP we would need to look at changing it's functionality quite a bit. Since we cannot allow ragdoll effects on enemies with armor, this power would really only be useful for killing baseline troops.

As it is right now Slam wouldn't be much more, if any more, useful then pull, and we've decided not to redesign and implement this power right now.

That's what I was thinking. As much as I like the power thematicly, it just is worthless the way it is now.

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Chris Schanche wrote...

We've discussed slam a few times. But for it to become useful and viable in MP we would need to look at changing its functionality quite a bit. Since we cannot allow ragdoll effects on enemies with armor, this power would really only be useful for killing baseline troops.

As it is right now Slam wouldn't be much more, if any more, useful then pull, and we've decided not to redesign and implement this power right now.


chris when I heard about the male quarian engineer, I was hoping to see defensive drone(something like that I don't remember the name completely) is there a reason this power hasn't been added? I feel like it would be fun to use

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Chris Schanche wrote...

We've discussed slam a few times. But for it to become useful and viable in MP we would need to look at changing its functionality quite a bit. Since we cannot allow ragdoll effects on enemies with armor, this power would really only be useful for killing baseline troops.

As it is right now Slam wouldn't be much more, if any more, useful then pull, and we've decided not to redesign and implement this power right now.

I understand.  What about defense matrix?

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Chris Schanche wrote...

We've discussed slam a few times. But for it to become useful and viable in MP we would need to look at changing its functionality quite a bit. Since we cannot allow ragdoll effects on enemies with armor, this power would really only be useful for killing baseline troops.

As it is right now Slam wouldn't be much more, if any more, useful then pull, and we've decided not to redesign and implement this power right now.


Couldn't it be altered to operate like lash and have an evolution to peirce shields/barriers with reduced force and damage?