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[MegaSovereign]

DuffyMJ wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

***SNIP***

The Reapers aren't involved in every case. Only the major ones that could threaten the security of the galaxy majority.

It's similar to how the court systems work today. Where they range from regional to federal.

Really?  So that's the future we have to look forward to is Reapers as the special victims unit?  Are Reapers going to pass a clean air act and send Reaper-auditors into my factory because migrant space fleas from Illium are harmed by my cosmic waste dumping too! 

Geez first its the County, then the State, then the Feds, now the damn Reaps wanna audit me too!!

They're not a government. They're a military force at this point. Probably won't be permanent as society evolves.

Once the Reapers serve their purpose they will no longer be needed.

[Xilizhra]

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

How can you increase the collectors? They are dead, and there are no Protheans to fill their ranks

They're back in multiplayer. They haven't shown up in the single-player war yet, but just blowing up one base didn't wipe them out completely.

i asked a different question. How do you get more collectors. Not how are they still around

They seem to reproduce by cloning, which I can do as well.

[Steelcan]

DuffyMJ wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

***SNIP***

The Reapers aren't involved in every case. Only the major ones that could threaten the security of the galaxy majority.

It's similar to how the court systems work today. Where they range from regional to federal.

Really?  So that's the future we have to look forward to is Reapers as the special victims unit?  Are Reapers going to pass a clean air act and send Reaper-auditors into my factory because migrant space fleas from Illium are harmed by my cosmic waste dumping too! 

Geez first its the County, then the State, then the Feds, now the damn Reaps wanna audit me too!!

. I also see a resistance against the reapers developing in control

Modifié par Steelcan, 18 octobre 2012 - 12:52 .

[xsdob]

To expand on my earlier point of so, after every war there is a dark age, where what was destroyed must be rebuilt, often at great expense and time. Look at history, WWII and WWI and what it took to rebuild after that, the civil war and the destruction on both sides, the revolutionary war and the times of great strife, the countless european and asian wars that decimated entire continents with it's aftermath.

It's just a natural part of war, one can't avoid needing to rebuild after a great and destructive conflict as one could simply choose to not pay taxes or try and stop the tides from coming in.

Modifié par xsdob, 18 octobre 2012 - 12:52 .

[DuffyMJ]

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

How can you increase the collectors? They are dead, and there are no Protheans to fill their ranks

They're back in multiplayer. They haven't shown up in the single-player war yet, but just blowing up one base didn't wipe them out completely.

i asked a different question. How do you get more collectors. Not how are they still around

They seem to reproduce by cloning, which I can do as well.

So the future of galactic law enforcement is like the movies Osmosis Jones, eh?

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

How can you increase the collectors? They are dead, and there are no Protheans to fill their ranks

They're back in multiplayer. They haven't shown up in the single-player war yet, but just blowing up one base didn't wipe them out completely.

i asked a different question. How do you get more collectors. Not how are they still around

They seem to reproduce by cloning, which I can do as well.

. 

[Xilizhra]

DuffyMJ wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

How can you increase the collectors? They are dead, and there are no Protheans to fill their ranks

They're back in multiplayer. They haven't shown up in the single-player war yet, but just blowing up one base didn't wipe them out completely.

i asked a different question. How do you get more collectors. Not how are they still around

They seem to reproduce by cloning, which I can do as well.

So the future of galactic law enforcement is like the movies Osmosis Jones, eh?

Explain the cherry-picking thing. I was responding to the portion of your posts that was important to respond to, and I defined harm for you.

[DuffyMJ]

MegaSovereign wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

***SNIP***

The Reapers aren't involved in every case. Only the major ones that could threaten the security of the galaxy majority.

It's similar to how the court systems work today. Where they range from regional to federal.

Really?  So that's the future we have to look forward to is Reapers as the special victims unit?  Are Reapers going to pass a clean air act and send Reaper-auditors into my factory because migrant space fleas from Illium are harmed by my cosmic waste dumping too! 

Geez first its the County, then the State, then the Feds, now the damn Reaps wanna audit me too!!

They're not a government. They're a military force at this point. Probably won't be permanent as society evolves.

Once the Reapers serve their purpose they will no longer be needed.

Right, they would be a military junta in effect.  Sulla, Ivan the Terrible, Pol Pot... Robo-shep!

I WILL REMEMBER THE MAN WHO GAVE HIS LIFE SO THAT THE MANY COULD LIVE...

... AS MY SLAVES!

[Demon560]

Xilizhra wrote...

and now you just gave those that still hate the Reapers and view them no different then before a Martyr, and soon you step on more people toes on this and deal with them, soon enough you've either dealt with half the galaxy who you were supposed to protect and make it no different then in the destroy ending, yup gotta love dictatorships built by the former buggymen of the Galaxy.

Hardly. If the krogan want to attack again, I'll prove my worth to the citizens of the galaxy who'd fear another Krogan Rebellion, which I think is in most of them.

I'm not agitating for war. I'm advocating for my rights. Why do you consider my struggle for freedom 'war' or aggression? who are you to define that? You human robo gods are all racist!

Rights? You have them. The genophage is gone. You can leave the planet if you really want to.

Oh, and again friend: please define these terms you throw around to me like 'aggression' and 'harm'. I'm waiting...

The Reapers aren't really equipped to deal with small-scale events, so what I'd mostly do is stop outbreaks of actual war.

Yeah you still create a sort of Martyr by wiping out a whole race, no matter how violant they are, and proveing ones worth to a galaxy who views you as the buggymen would be hard if they hate you(the reapers who pretty much are you now or they are you), sure you fixed the galaxy, but who caused all of it, who harvested and killed trillions, and whose very existance is a mere abominations, The Reapers, and before you go into that it was all the Catalyst's fault, the Reapers are still responcible for all thet action and would be viewed no different then before shep decided to use said abominations to do what it thinks is the greater good, after all what's the face of the enemy Mecha-Cthulu or the Bieber Ghost to eveyone in the galaxy.  Just on a side note the Krogan are still sympathetic, atleast more sympathetic then Genocidal Cuttlfish that tried to PRESERVE all life in the galaxy.

Modifié par Demon560, 18 octobre 2012 - 12:59 .

[Steelcan]

DuffyMJ wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

They're not a government. They're a military force at this point. Probably won't be permanent as society evolves.

Once the Reapers serve their purpose they will no longer be needed.

Right, they would be a military junta in effect.  Sulla, Ivan the Terrible, Pol Pot... Robo-shep!

I WILL REMEMBER THE MAN WHO GAVE HIS LIFE SO THAT THE MANY COULD LIVE...

... AS MY SLAVES!

. Now you're catching on.  P.S. Sulla was awesome

[AdmiralCheez]

xsdob wrote...

To expand on my earlier point of so, after every war there is a dark age, where what was destroyed must be rebuilt, often at great expense and time. Look at history, WWII and WWI and what it took to rebuild after that, the civil war and the destruction on both sides, the revolutionary war and the times of great strife, the countless european and asian wars that decimated entire continents with it's aftermath.

It's just a natural part of war, one can't avoid needing to rebuild after a great and destructive conflict as one could simply choose to not pay taxes or try and stop the tides from coming in.

Yeah, war's ugly.  ME3 tells the story of the biggest, most destructive war ever, so the aftermath will be that much more difficult to get through.  Entire worlds lie in ruin, billions are dead, and the Relay network is badly damaged.

The only difference is that in Synthesis and Control, the Reapers are here to help!  Those Reapers sure are nice guys!

[DuffyMJ]

Xilizhra wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

How can you increase the collectors? They are dead, and there are no Protheans to fill their ranks

They're back in multiplayer. They haven't shown up in the single-player war yet, but just blowing up one base didn't wipe them out completely.

i asked a different question. How do you get more collectors. Not how are they still around

They seem to reproduce by cloning, which I can do as well.

So the future of galactic law enforcement is like the movies Osmosis Jones, eh?

Explain the cherry-picking thing. I was responding to the portion of your posts that was important to respond to, and I defined harm for you.

lmao-helicopter

Yes.  You did.

... After you completely ignored posts and focused on the totally crucial, controversial, ethically rife issue of Reaper suspect apprehension procedure and Vorca social skills and i called you out!

Modifié par DuffyMJ, 18 octobre 2012 - 12:59 .

[Xilizhra]

Yeah you still create a sort of Martyr by wiping out a whole race, no matter how violant they are, and proveing ones worth to a galaxy who views you as the buggymen would be hard if they hate you, sure you fixed the galaxy, but who caused all of it, who harvested and killed trillions, and whose very existance is a mere abominations, The Reapers, and before you go into that it was all the Catalyst's fault, the Reapers are still responcible for all thet action and would be viewed no different then before shep decided to use said abominations to do what it thinks is the greater good, after all what's the face of the enemy Mecha-Cthulu or the Bieber Ghost to eveyone in the galaxy. Just on a side note the Krogan are still sympathetic, atleast more sympathetic then Genocidal Cuttlfish that tried to PRESERVE all life in the galaxy.

I don't plan on wiping out the krogan, just reducing their ability to make war.

... After you completely ignored posts and focused on the totally crucial, controversial, ethically rife issue of Reaper suspect apprehension procedure and Vorca social skills and i called you out!

You seem to be slipping further into insanity. Kindly repeat the point you claim I ignored.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

No I won't kill you for having those views.

YOU'RE dead.  Shepardlyst is NOT you, but a computer based on you.

YOU might not kill the krogan, but what about Shepardlyst?  Do you really have faith in that thing?

Why is this such a difficult point to get across? I don't get it.

And if the Krogan wouldn't back down, there could be a Krogan reaper if there were enough of them. The Shepardlyst might see this as a "solution". The Krogan would be preserved in this manner.

[Steelcan]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

No I won't kill you for having those views.

YOU'RE dead.  Shepardlyst is NOT you, but a computer based on you.

YOU might not kill the krogan, but what about Shepardlyst?  Do you really have faith in that thing?

Why is this such a difficult point to get across? I don't get it.
And if the Krogan wouldn't back down, there could be a Krogan reaper if there were enough of them. The Shepardlyst might see this as a "solution". The Krogan would be preserved in this manner.

. Why st there? Maybe the Turians or Asari might get some ideas. Should just go ahead and kill all organics..

[DuffyMJ]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

xsdob wrote...

To expand on my earlier point of so, after every war there is a dark age, where what was destroyed must be rebuilt, often at great expense and time. Look at history, WWII and WWI and what it took to rebuild after that, the civil war and the destruction on both sides, the revolutionary war and the times of great strife, the countless european and asian wars that decimated entire continents with it's aftermath.

It's just a natural part of war, one can't avoid needing to rebuild after a great and destructive conflict as one could simply choose to not pay taxes or try and stop the tides from coming in.

Yeah, war's ugly.  ME3 tells the story of the biggest, most destructive war ever, so the aftermath will be that much more difficult to get through.  Entire worlds lie in ruin, billions are dead, and the Relay network is badly damaged.

The only difference is that in Synthesis and Control, the Reapers are here to help!  Those Reapers sure are nice guys!

Or, well, you get the idea...

[Steelcan]

Reapers under Sheplyst= BIG BROTHER

[DuffyMJ]

Steelcan wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

No I won't kill you for having those views.

YOU'RE dead.  Shepardlyst is NOT you, but a computer based on you.

YOU might not kill the krogan, but what about Shepardlyst?  Do you really have faith in that thing?

Why is this such a difficult point to get across? I don't get it.
And if the Krogan wouldn't back down, there could be a Krogan reaper if there were enough of them. The Shepardlyst might see this as a "solution". The Krogan would be preserved in this manner.

. Why st there? Maybe the Turians or Asari might get some ideas. Should just go ahead and kill all organics..

I heard the volus built an AI wedding DJ. May as well kill them all, the AI proved the cycle continues as it began to play pop-rock on all frequencies...

Modifié par DuffyMJ, 18 octobre 2012 - 01:06 .

[DuffyMJ]

Xilizhra wrote...

Yeah you still create a sort of Martyr by wiping out a whole race, no matter how violant they are, and proveing ones worth to a galaxy who views you as the buggymen would be hard if they hate you, sure you fixed the galaxy, but who caused all of it, who harvested and killed trillions, and whose very existance is a mere abominations, The Reapers, and before you go into that it was all the Catalyst's fault, the Reapers are still responcible for all thet action and would be viewed no different then before shep decided to use said abominations to do what it thinks is the greater good, after all what's the face of the enemy Mecha-Cthulu or the Bieber Ghost to eveyone in the galaxy. Just on a side note the Krogan are still sympathetic, atleast more sympathetic then Genocidal Cuttlfish that tried to PRESERVE all life in the galaxy.

I don't plan on wiping out the krogan, just reducing their ability to make war.

... After you completely ignored posts and focused on the totally crucial, controversial, ethically rife issue of Reaper suspect apprehension procedure and Vorca social skills and i called you out!

You seem to be slipping further into insanity. Kindly repeat the point you claim I ignored.

THEY-- YOU!!! YOU have his face!! We came from the sky! Bring us sky!

[Steelcan]

DirtyMouthSally wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Reapers under Sheplyst= BIG BROTHER

How about "Bubba"? 

http://social.biowar...3032/1#14553111

. 

[DuffyMJ]

Sorry guys I posted the wrong pic, I meant this one:

[MegaSovereign]

DuffyMJ wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

***SNIP***

The Reapers aren't involved in every case. Only the major ones that could threaten the security of the galaxy majority.

It's similar to how the court systems work today. Where they range from regional to federal.

Really?  So that's the future we have to look forward to is Reapers as the special victims unit?  Are Reapers going to pass a clean air act and send Reaper-auditors into my factory because migrant space fleas from Illium are harmed by my cosmic waste dumping too! 

Geez first its the County, then the State, then the Feds, now the damn Reaps wanna audit me too!!

They're not a government. They're a military force at this point. Probably won't be permanent as society evolves.

Once the Reapers serve their purpose they will no longer be needed.

Right, they would be a military junta in effect.  Sulla, Ivan the Terrible, Pol Pot... Robo-shep!

I WILL REMEMBER THE MAN WHO GAVE HIS LIFE SO THAT THE MANY COULD LIVE...

... AS MY SLAVES!

Nice headcanon. The Paragon Control dialogue is pretty ambigiuous. You could easily interpret much of what ReaperShep says as the Reapers being used as tools to rebuild the galaxy and ensure galactic peace. That doesn't necessarily mean peace through violence..

[DuffyMJ]

MegaSovereign wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

***SNIP***

The Reapers aren't involved in every case. Only the major ones that could threaten the security of the galaxy majority.

It's similar to how the court systems work today. Where they range from regional to federal.

Really?  So that's the future we have to look forward to is Reapers as the special victims unit?  Are Reapers going to pass a clean air act and send Reaper-auditors into my factory because migrant space fleas from Illium are harmed by my cosmic waste dumping too! 

Geez first its the County, then the State, then the Feds, now the damn Reaps wanna audit me too!!

They're not a government. They're a military force at this point. Probably won't be permanent as society evolves.

Once the Reapers serve their purpose they will no longer be needed.

Right, they would be a military junta in effect.  Sulla, Ivan the Terrible, Pol Pot... Robo-shep!

I WILL REMEMBER THE MAN WHO GAVE HIS LIFE SO THAT THE MANY COULD LIVE...

... AS MY SLAVES!

Nice headcanon. The Paragon Control dialogue is pretty ambigiuous. You could easily interpret much of what ReaperShep says as the Reapers being used as tools to rebuild the galaxy and ensure galactic peace. That doesn't necessarily mean peace through violence..

war is peace. 2 +2 is 5.

[Zkyire]

Jade8aby88 wrote...


I just realized something.

Not really.

They haven't forgotten any of their knowledge.

It's a setback and they'll have to rough it for a while, but they'll still have access to more advanced tech than we have this century.