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[DeinonSlayer]

Wayning_Star wrote...

Can anyone state exactly how long it takes for recovery after destroy? Maybe I missed something there??? Without reaper tech? That's the "Shepard" ideal. Just say NO to reaper tech!! Destroy the reapers at all costs..etc. Right?!?

(synthesis and probably control have the shortest recovery time in my estimation.}

Wrex gets home in time to hold his kid, if that's any indication of the timeline for relay repair. We know how Mass Relays work. Comm Relays are a miniaturized version - we've just never tried to build the big ones. Can't say exactly how long Citadel repair will take, though.

[Wayning_Star]

Steelcan wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

...do you guys even know what a "dark age" is?

Dark age is used to describe a period of time in which nothing is really learned or innovated. The economy sucks and nobody is really that educated. Things start to become more religiously based rather then scientific. Dark age does NOT refer to a period where things are kind of bad and needs to be rebuilt.

The period after Destroy is more of a "Reconstruction" period. Very different. Compare European Dark age to Europe post-World War II. They might have similar factors like the economy sucks but in this case, I would think in terms of education it would have the exact opposite effect.

. Exactly

actually, little is known of the dark age here on old earth, as their is no recording of event there in. But the idea of the MEU going through such a thing is anologistic. As the departure of one dominant form of base technology would send a lot of people/beings off the progressionary map. As did the aforementioned dark ages in earth realtime history.

(quick, everyone, pull out their computer CPU's and replace them with ones you personally have created. See how that works out...)

[Deathsaurer]

It's funny the Catalyst insists the exact opposite and destroy isn't even its favorite option.

[Iakus]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

iakus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

What's worse is that the EC slides directly contradict what this topic says.

Use your freaking eyes people.

Even in the best endings, the relay network is still severely damaged.  In the other two endings, the Reapers are there to help rebuild.  In destroy, the races on on their own. They'll recover, but it'll take much longer.

Ergo, "dark age"

And yes, Shepard's still stuck in the rubble. 

I see not depending on the reapers as a bonus. The civilizations recover without them just fine. May take a bit longer, but so what?

From a long-term perspective, it probably is a bonus.  It's just that it will delay the recovery.  It's delayed gratification.  You spend more tme in a darker period for an overall better future (at least to me

I fail to see how Shepard is stuck in the rubble.

Because that's the last image of him in the game.

[Wayning_Star]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Can anyone state exactly how long it takes for recovery after destroy? Maybe I missed something there??? Without reaper tech? That's the "Shepard" ideal. Just say NO to reaper tech!! Destroy the reapers at all costs..etc. Right?!?

(synthesis and probably control have the shortest recovery time in my estimation.}

Wrex gets home in time to hold his kid, if that's any indication of the timeline for relay repair. We know how Mass Relays work. Comm Relays are a miniaturized version - we've just never tried to build the big ones. Can't say exactly how long Citadel repair will take, though.

definitively writers cramps. Oh well, sci fi heavy video game writers have to learn too..lol (we really don't know which of Wrexs' kids that was, they were pretty busy with such stuff and Krogans would probably swim home if need be..lol)

[Steelcan]

Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...
...do you guys even know what a "dark age" is?
Dark age is used to describe a period of time in which nothing is really learned or innovated. The economy sucks and nobody is really that educated. Things start to become more religiously based rather then scientific. Dark age does NOT refer to a period where things are kind of bad and needs to be rebuilt.
The period after Destroy is more of a "Reconstruction" period. Very different. Compare European Dark age to Europe post-World War II. They might have similar factors like the economy sucks but in this case, I would think in terms of education it would have the exact opposite effect.

. Exactly

actually, little is known of the dark age here on old earth, as their is no recording of event there in. But the idea of the MEU going through such a thing is anologistic. As the departure of one dominant form of base technology would send a lot of people/beings off the progressionary map. As did the aforementioned dark ages in earth realtime history.

(quick, everyone, pull out their computer CPU's and replace them with ones you personally have created. See how that works out...)

. There is no reason to believe that all technology is destroyed.  Starships are still capable of flight so computers and such would sill be operational

[Wayning_Star]

iakus wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

iakus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

What's worse is that the EC slides directly contradict what this topic says.

Use your freaking eyes people.

Even in the best endings, the relay network is still severely damaged.  In the other two endings, the Reapers are there to help rebuild.  In destroy, the races on on their own. They'll recover, but it'll take much longer.

Ergo, "dark age"

And yes, Shepard's still stuck in the rubble. 

I see not depending on the reapers as a bonus. The civilizations recover without them just fine. May take a bit longer, but so what?

From a long-term perspective, it probably is a bonus.  It's just that it will delay the recovery.  It's delayed gratification.  You spend more tme in a darker period for an overall better future (at least to me

I fail to see how Shepard is stuck in the rubble.

Because that's the last image of him in the game.

it would seem that folks here on old earth cannot focus on the intent of what happens to folks in the MEU. It's 'all right' when others are faced with the actuality, even if fictional...

I read a sci fi story about a person who would 'dream up' stuff and write it down..until it was revealed to them that their imagination 'actually happened' to others in the story... Didn't say a thing about it till that last chapter either..lol

[AlanC9]

DeinonSlayer wrote...
Wrex gets home in time to hold his kid, if that's any indication of the timeline for relay repair.

Remember, krogan are long-lived.He'd be able to make it back through normal FTL flight even if the relays were never repaired. Samara too. So their scenes can't prove much of anything.

Modifié par AlanC9, 17 octobre 2012 - 08:39 .

[Maximanimo]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

What did you realize?

That Destroy is still a dark age.

I c wut u did thar

[Wayning_Star]

Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...
...do you guys even know what a "dark age" is?
Dark age is used to describe a period of time in which nothing is really learned or innovated. The economy sucks and nobody is really that educated. Things start to become more religiously based rather then scientific. Dark age does NOT refer to a period where things are kind of bad and needs to be rebuilt.
The period after Destroy is more of a "Reconstruction" period. Very different. Compare European Dark age to Europe post-World War II. They might have similar factors like the economy sucks but in this case, I would think in terms of education it would have the exact opposite effect.

. Exactly

actually, little is known of the dark age here on old earth, as their is no recording of event there in. But the idea of the MEU going through such a thing is anologistic. As the departure of one dominant form of base technology would send a lot of people/beings off the progressionary map. As did the aforementioned dark ages in earth realtime history.

(quick, everyone, pull out their computer CPU's and replace them with ones you personally have created. See how that works out...)

. There is no reason to believe that all technology is destroyed.  Starships are still capable of flight so computers and such would sill be operational

Not sentient ones. Any of those would qualify as 'synthetic life'. Destroy requires all that be taken out, cause its based on reaper technology. The leviathans are troublesome, as they're the ones who created that stuff and would/will do so again anyway. Back to square one?!?

[Wayning_Star]

Maximanimo wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

What did you realize?

That Destroy is still a dark age.

I c wut u did thar

Like totally heavy maaaan!!

[Maxster_]

MACharlie1 wrote...

...do you guys even know what a "dark age" is?

Dark age is used to describe a period of time in which nothing is really learned or innovated. The economy sucks and nobody is really that educated. Things start to become more religiously based rather then scientific. Dark age does NOT refer to a period where things are kind of bad and needs to be rebuilt.

The period after Destroy is more of a "Reconstruction" period. Very different. Compare European Dark age to Europe post-World War II. They might have similar factors like the economy sucks but in this case, I would think in terms of education it would have the exact opposite effect.

Are you sure, that total destruction of infrastructure, economic collapse and population reduction will not have same effect?
I'm not so sure, advanced civilization's existance tied to infrastructure and production lines. Take away all that, and everything will collapse.
No relays to get to agricultural colonies, infrastructure destroyed, factories destroyed. How you can even feed large population without that?

[Steelcan]

AlanC9 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...
Wrex gets home in time to hold his kid, if that's any indication of the timeline for relay repair.

Remember, krogan are long-lived.He'd be able to make it back through normal FTL flight even if the relays were never repaired. Samara too. So their scenes can't prove much of anything.

. But how fast do Krogan age? Probably pretty quickly

[Argolas]

The EC slides show that the Relays are rebuilt quite fast. Every character is avle to return home and seems to be fine. Starships are still functional, or else Hackett would not be alive.

[MegaSovereign]

iakus wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

iakus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

What's worse is that the EC slides directly contradict what this topic says.

Use your freaking eyes people.

Even in the best endings, the relay network is still severely damaged.  In the other two endings, the Reapers are there to help rebuild.  In destroy, the races on on their own. They'll recover, but it'll take much longer.

Ergo, "dark age"

And yes, Shepard's still stuck in the rubble. 

I see not depending on the reapers as a bonus. The civilizations recover without them just fine. May take a bit longer, but so what?

From a long-term perspective, it probably is a bonus.  It's just that it will delay the recovery.  It's delayed gratification.  You spend more tme in a darker period for an overall better future (at least to me

I fail to see how Shepard is stuck in the rubble.

Because that's the last image of him in the game.

That doesn't mean he's stuck in the rubble..

[Major Crackhead]

Not really, if you want to see a REAL dark age, look no further than the first Deus Ex's Collapse ending.

[hukbum]

Maxster_ wrote...

Are you sure, that total destruction of infrastructure, economic collapse and population reduction will not have same effect?
I'm not so sure, advanced civilization's existance tied to infrastructure and production lines. Take away all that, and everything will collapse.
No relays to get to agricultural colonies, infrastructure destroyed, factories destroyed. How you can even feed large population without that?

But ... but ... BW showed me pictures about how awesome everything will be

[DeinonSlayer]

AlanC9 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...
Wrex gets home in time to hold his kid, if that's any indication of the timeline for relay repair.

Remember, krogan are long-lived.He'd be able to make it back through normal FTL flight even if the relays were never repaired. Samara too. So their scenes can't prove much of anything.

Lots of speculation!

[Iakus]

MegaSovereign wrote...

iakus wrote...

I fail to see how Shepard is stuck in the rubble.

Because that's the last image of him in the game.

That doesn't mean he's stuck in the rubble..

Seeing is believing

[AlanC9]

Steelcan wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
Remember, krogan are long-lived.He'd be able to make it back through normal FTL flight even if the relays were never repaired. Samara too. So their scenes can't prove much of anything.

. But how fast do Krogan age? Probably pretty quickly

Sure. But there's no actual evidence that the kid in the slide wasn't conceived after Wrex got home the hard way; we're just assuming that he was conceived right after the cure. Maybe he's got a couple of siblings who are centuries older.

[Deathsaurer]

People being more negative about this than the freaking Catalyst makes me sad.

[Steelcan]

AlanC9 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
Remember, krogan are long-lived.He'd be able to make it back through normal FTL flight even if the relays were never repaired. Samara too. So their scenes can't prove much of anything.

. But how fast do Krogan age? Probably pretty quickly

Sure. But there's no actual evidence that the kid in the slide wasn't conceived after Wrex got home the hard way; we're just assuming that he was conceived right after the cure. Maybe he's got a couple of siblings who are centuries older.

. It seems to be implied that it is his first son, at least to me

[MegaSovereign]

iakus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

iakus wrote...

I fail to see how Shepard is stuck in the rubble.

Because that's the last image of him in the game.

That doesn't mean he's stuck in the rubble..

Seeing is believing

But he's not stuck in the rubble. I mean that literally. There is some rubble on him and the camera angle has it to where you can't see his face, but the rubble is not pinning him down.

[AdmiralCheez]

Deathsaurer wrote...

People being more negative about this than the freaking Catalyst makes me sad.

I know, right?

Eh, I'd rather have to repair the relays myself than live under a giant murderbot dictatorship.

Speaking as a galactic citizen, I mean.

[Xilizhra]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Deathsaurer wrote...

People being more negative about this than the freaking Catalyst makes me sad.

I know, right?

Eh, I'd rather have to repair the relays myself than live under a giant murderbot dictatorship.

Speaking as a galactic citizen, I mean.

It doesn't have to be a dictatorship, any more than a nation having a standing army means that the army runs the country.