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[Operator m1]

 Wave 6, 4 node objective, on hydra, gold. After 2 squadmates went down to dragoons, phontoms, and turrets hounding us, got camped by dragoons that never stopped coming. Never relent. Never shown anything that resembled strategy. They spawned, and rushed us as we killed them. Shooting at them was pointless. We ran out of time.

Can their spawn numbers be on a budget on objective waves please?! These guys actually caused me to be legitimately pissed off about anything that has nothing to do with a player MP.

[JustinSonic]

I hear they're getting nerfed.

I hope they're getting nerfed.

If they can stomp, why can't we?

[SiCKxslicky]

No missiles were used?

[Lives Must Die]

This is really the only issue I have with the Dragoon. They are too aggressive and too fast. I don't really mind them being too aggressive... it's just that you can clear out an entire map to try to get to a device to deactivate, and within 5 seconds they are on you (they ran across the entire map in 5 seconds!) and you can never get it done. It's why I won't solo against Cerberus now.... They are a PITA during solos. The chance you get a diables 4 devices objective on waves 6/10 is a big reason to avoid cerberus now.

[tictactucrac]

Kishock headshot = one shot. Dodge = god mode. Any power = stun.

I hope they're not getting nerfed, even nemesis are more dangerous right now.

Modifié par tictactucrac, 17 octobre 2012 - 06:57 .

[SiCKxslicky]

^

[RequiemPrime]

Yeah.....objective waves, especially Wave 10 with Hacks or Deactivations are horrid with them.

Earlier on Hazard Giant, it was only myself and another player, after the other two we were with were d/c connected. Wave 10 came around...with the hack right in the middle of the open area.....it was a freaking nightmare. I was using my Krodept and the other was using a Phoenix Adept. I can't even count how many times I had to, when I was able, to detonate my Barrier, just to keep them the hell away from me. Toss in Phantoms, Atlases, Centurions throwing in Grenades, Nemesis sniping, and also what seemed to be an insane amount of Guardians (literally like a damn wall of them coming towards us)....let's just say every d-pad consumable, sans thermal clips, were gone.


I never want a repeat of that again.

Modifié par Angelwave, 17 octobre 2012 - 07:01 .

[drmoose00]

SiCKxslicky wrote...

No missiles were used?

objective wavs now there is almost no point. you missle, the enemies resspan nearly in the same place immeadiatley, and there is no delay in them starting to shoot/attack. I hope someday the pugs learn to retreat from zone for a bit and kite the enemies away - that is assuming the ememies will not just camp at the zone tho

[upinya slayin]

tictactucrac wrote...

Kishock headshot = one shot. Dodge = god mode. Any power = stun.

I hope they're not getting nerfed, even nemesis are more dangerous right now.

i agree. they are fast and travel in gourps but they have low armor and die easily. they need a buff if anything

[bully on speed]

they seem to be extremely flamable, might i suggest torching them with a vorcha shield damaged maxed flamer, took down 3 in one blast on silver

[An English Gamer]

Dragoons = Husks with a LOT of armour and a massive AoE damage buff.

[Fawx9]

lemon00 wrote...

SiCKxslicky wrote...

No missiles were used?

objective wavs now there is almost no point. you missle, the enemies resspan nearly in the same place immeadiatley, and there is no delay in them starting to shoot/attack. I hope someday the pugs learn to retreat from zone for a bit and kite the enemies away - that is assuming the ememies will not just camp at the zone tho

Considering I've seen them spawn inside hack zones(or basically beside it) before I doubt that will work on sme maps. You'd go in a circle just to see a bunch of enemies you killed on the way. 

[RequiemPrime]

Their spawn rate needs to be controlled, that's it.

[Dougie1117]

that might be true, except Dragoons appear to ignore TC completely. Doing a device in cloak, kills me, running away while cloaked, shoots me, reviving in cloak, whips me.

[MaxShine]

tictactucrac wrote...

Kishock headshot = one shot. Dodge = god mode. Any power = stun.

I hope they're not getting nerfed, even nemesis are more dangerous right now.

How do score a headshot with a Kishock while you are disabling a device? Tell me your secret

[RequiemPrime]

An English Gamer wrote...

Dragoons = Husks with a LOT of armour and a massive AoE damage buff.

And speed...don't forget that.

Imagine Possessed Abominations with their speed? 

[mrs_anomaly]

I have mixed feelings about this- on any of the classes I typically play I've experienced a ton of pain from the Dragoons unless in the "ideal" situation for those particular games (ie good team, nice large map, not being overrun) and they have killed me plenty O' times.

I don't think an outright nerf is in order if not a tweak to how they operate. They should at LEAST minimum have some kind of sounds. I never hear them coming up and whenever they do hit the map- you're usually on an objective round and managing multiple things. Also not my favorite that Phantoms apparently date Dragoons- its a nasty situation if you're way too close or doing a disarming objective .

[Kalas Magnus]

Everyone complains about dragoons but phantoms are way worse. With their flips, hand cannon, bubble, melee, instant kill, cloak, and barrier regen. I'll happily take 5 dragoons than one phantom.

What character were you using?

[jaydubs67]

100RenegadePoints wrote...

tictactucrac wrote...

Kishock headshot = one shot. Dodge = god mode. Any power = stun.

I hope they're not getting nerfed, even nemesis are more dangerous right now.

How do score a headshot with a Kishock while you are disabling a device? Tell me your secret

 

There are these things called teammates.  And they cover you while you do objectives.  Ground-breaking stuff, right?  

And if you're talking about solo, it's a voluntary, unnecessary activity that is meant to be challenging.  Changing the game to make it easier for solo play would be silly.    

[Operator m1]

At no one point during that wave there was ever less than 2 dragoons with a phantom in my face, and I've killed several dragoons after dealing with the engineers. It just did not matter at all. Only reason I lived so long were because of stimpacks, and thermal clip packs.

AI behavior like that is the reason why I barely snipe anymore.

Their spawn numbers seriously need to be put on a budget on objective waves, or limit them to 2 at a time. The way they are in a situation like that, sniping/holding a position for longer than 10 seconds is nearly impossible, and frustrating.

It was just especially bad considering wave 6 is nothiing but dragoon phantoms, and engineers, and we had to do the 4 node objective. 2 teammates went down fast. One to a sync kill and the other to an FTL speed stomp if I remember correctly. Again, I was a ghost infiltrator. partner was a shadow. There were more than enough dragoons to hound us both at the same time.

Modifié par Operator m1, 17 octobre 2012 - 07:34 .

[Prince Bubblegeth]

just make them not run/walk so fast to us from the time they spawn like there's no tomorrow

[HorriblePlajer]

tictactucrac wrote...

Kishock headshot = one shot. Dodge = god mode. Any power = stun.

I hope they're not getting nerfed, even nemesis are more dangerous right now.

Any power? False. Shockwave does not do a thing to it, no stagger, no stun, nothing.

[Tankcommander]

If Phantoms got nerfed Dragoons could be left alone; as it is, they need a buff in HP with a nerf to their numbers, and either their speed, or their ridiculously powerful SMG needs toning down. A three shot burst seems to kill me constantly, even if I'm ducking into cover for most of it.

[iTz JoNeSy]

My vorcha LOVES dragoon's.