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[deuce985]

Atakuma wrote...

POETICDRINK wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

I'll let know after I play DA3...

you really think after the game is made they going to take request for DLC?

They aren't going to take requests for DLC at all.

This...

If they're going to make DLC, it most likely will be in their plans long before release. That means they already know what they're going to make.

And seeing as I haven't played DA3 to know what the game provides, I can't ask for any type of DLC because it might be in DA3. I don't even know the premise of the game or exactly how the story will unfold.

I guess you might get some small requests like add SP weapons to MP or something like that. I doubt it's something drastic unless they have another controversy like ME3.

Modifié par deuce985, 19 octobre 2012 - 07:29 .

[hobbit of the shire]

I want the whole game to be *there* when I buy it. I will not buy individual DLCs. If there are full-fledged expansions (as long as the OC), then I will buy or wait till an ultimate edition comes out. But small campaigns no, and definitely not for extra armor/weapons. You take A LOT from the game if you start making companions as DLC. But it still won't make me buy a DLC just to get Sebastian or Shale. This is coming from a person who has spent quite a bit of money on fan-made commissions. So it's not like I don't have the dough to spare. But on principle, I'm not wasting money on DLC to get 0s or 1s that should have been in the game in the first place.

[PsychoBlonde]

Blair Brown wrote...

DLC packs give you the option to buy (or download, for free ones) only the things you want.  In skyrim for example, I bought the vampire DLC, but not the Hearthfire one because building a house doesn't interest me and killing vampires does.  If it was an expansion I would probably have to pay more for something I would only use half of.

Yes.  So much.

I'm kind of addicted to DLC in games I really enjoy, because it gives me a chance to go back and Try Something Different.  I find I prefer loot packs to story packs, actually--the story packs tend to be poorly-integrated because the Dragon Age games aren't like, say, Dungeons and Dragons Online where the quests are entirely separate entities.  That being said, updates in DDO that don't add quests tend to be pretty lame, so they nearly always put out at least 2-3 of the things with their updates.

Addendum: you know what would be REALLY cool?  Occasional *free* DLC.  I don't mean "free if you preorder" or "free if you buy from this vendor".  Just you guys coming up with an idea for a couple of interesting items or some new runes or a couple hairstyles and just putting it out there free--like the mods people do, only "official".  Or maybe someone could go out and rate a few community mods as being good choices.  It might help this DLC business look less like a calculated money grab and more like you guys being in love with your work.

Modifié par PsychoBlonde, 20 octobre 2012 - 02:15 .

[POETICDRINK]

deuce985 wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

POETICDRINK wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

I'll let know after I play DA3...

you really think after the game is made they going to take request for DLC?

They aren't going to take requests for DLC at all.

This...

If they're going to make DLC, it most likely will be in their plans long before release. That means they already know what they're going to make.

And seeing as I haven't played DA3 to know what the game provides, I can't ask for any type of DLC because it might be in DA3. I don't even know the premise of the game or exactly how the story will unfold.

I guess you might get some small requests like add SP weapons to MP or something like that. I doubt it's something drastic unless they have another controversy like ME3.

Many of you are guessing. The producers/developers have enough time to add things now the game still have months to go. It's just like someone Modding a game except they have the actual hardware. I asked numerous people who are working on the game is it too late to post ideas and they assured me it wasn't.

.....and as I said before I have worked with producers and the community of a game. I can surely tell you this, DLC isn't going anywhere. So, expect it. 

[Spedfrom]

Call me old fashioned, but I would rather have proper meaty expansions instead of DLC.

I understand the plan for DA2 was for it to have smaller DLC's first (Legacy and MotA) and finish it off with a meaty expansion (the cancelled Exalted March) and that is a plan that I don't mind too much, if a compromise has to be made in order to not lose that money from people that quickly resell their games or lose interest in them.

[hussey 92]

I'm already shelling out $60 for the game and thats all I plan on spending.

[Maria Caliban]

^ Has Awakening registered.

[TEWR]

Blair Brown wrote...

In skyrim for example, I bought the vampire DLC, but not the Hearthfire one because building a house doesn't interest me and killing vampires does

What if a Dragon assaulted your home? Would it then interest you how a Dragon is trying to keep you from raising a family of badasses?

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 20 octobre 2012 - 05:02 .

[Villiamus]

should we not let the game come out before considering DLC?

[BENIIICHAT]

I don't want DLC. Expansion Pack is easier way for me to support Bioware.

[Guilebrush]

Blair Brown wrote...
DLC packs give you the option to buy (or download, for free ones) only the things you want.  In skyrim for example, I bought the vampire DLC, but not the Hearthfire one because building a house doesn't interest me and killing vampires does.  If it was an expansion I would probably have to pay more for something I would only use half of.

In a sense quite true, but traditional expansion packs at least back then were tightly themed so instead of a Dawnguard + Heathfire "expac" back in the day you'd far more likely get a much longer Dawngaurd campaign + the option to build a player house in the new area.

That said for me if the game is good enough I just want more of it and I really don't have a preference on the delivery method used. One thing I do love about DLCs is they tend to release while my excitement for the game is still at a high point.

This is especially pertinent during this era of gaming since there are just so many good entertainment choices these days competing for your money. While getting a really big retail expansion pack is wonderful (for the right game) most gamers would probably have moved on to "the next big thing" by then so you can really see where the developers are coming from with DLC. It lets them get new content out quicker and at far more impulse level price points.

Of course the trade off is a lot of companies are producing very content light or even worse "shovelware" DLC packs. I think the guys and gals at Bioware overall do a good job with theirs, at the very least their DLC integrates seemlessly into the main titles.

Two things do bother me however with Bioware DLC, the first being the obnoxious need for "Bioware Points" to purchase them rather than through direct currency and second how conservative they tend to be with their tiny packs (Like where are the single player class packs for ME3? That would get me to replay the game in a heartbeat). 

Stuff like Shale, Kasumi, Leviathan, LotSB, Legacy and so on were all really good though and I wouldn't mind similar items for DA3. But in terms of item packs, those need to be more compelling as cool as the items look the packs could do so much more (such as the afforementioned pipe dream of class packs for ME3.)

[Sir JK]

In another thread a while back I read a suggestion for what essentially is a voice pack dlc. A secondary voice one can choose to use instead of the default voice for the PC. I thought it was a really interesting idea and one that'd fit perfectly as DLC since it is both non-essential but can add something beneficial to the gaming experience.

[Little Princess Peach]

I would like a dlc that lets you travel to other realms not just the fade

[Rune-Chan]

I dislike DLC in general but there is one thing that is an absolute must if they make it (which of course they will).

It must not be plot relevant. It should not have any influence on the main game in any shape or form.

For examples of games that do it correctly think of Fallout 3 (Not including Broken Steel), Fallout New Vegas, Borderlands and Skyrim.

The DLC's all take place in a separate area from the main game, and all have their own self contained stories that mean that those who don't get them are not paying for less of a game or having an inferior one.

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 20 octobre 2012 - 08:25 .

[Maria Caliban]

Nizaris1 wrote...

NO, expansion is totally separated game, but use the original game resource, NOT like DLC that add new contents in it.

Nizaris1 wrote...

...some expansions do add new things on original game.

Right.

[FedericoV]

Just avoid day 1 DLC. At least give it for free for ALL game owners (and not preorder only) if it's just an "anti gamestop" measure. And please, for the love of god, avoid that: https://www.youtube....?v=zRRpGlmtws8. Or, if you change your plan to raise some quick cash, at least be honest about it.

Having said all of that, after From Ashes I decided not to support the DLC model anymore.

[Allan Schumacher]

Foolsfolly wrote...

You bring up a valid point  which makes me wonder something...

How about an exansion pack that is made up of these smaller piece DLCs? I know Fallout: New Vegas attempted this (somewhat successfully albeit with a disappointing finish.. I expected more from Ulysses after all that time hearing about him).

But let's say 3-4 DLCs which are all tied to a certain plot that when combined can count as an exansion pack of sorts. A complete story all of its own that takes place during the main plot but is completely indepedent of that plot.

The problem with this is that Sony/Microsoft have issues with content being dependent on other DLCs.  Sawyer and Co. ran into it in Fallout: New Vegas too (which he circumvents in his PC hardcore mod).

[Shevy]

No DLC isn't an option nowadays. At least I hope they avoid day 1 DLC because this always comes with a bad smack. Even if not true, it gives you the impression of them cutting things out ( most likely a companion ) and selling it for extra $$.

I know day 1 DLC is the best way to make $$ with DLC because it sells best due to player attention but, imo, the loss of reputation coming with it isn't worth it. But I'm clearly not in the position to make this call.
I would prefer post-release DLC to try out new things ( like the stealth option in MotA ) or to offer neat side stories. The end game should only be expanded through an expansion pack. But I think this option isn't profitable enough today.

So in the end, we'll get day 1 DLC including a companion and weapon packs....

Modifié par Shevy_001, 20 octobre 2012 - 10:05 .

[Maria Caliban]

FedericoV wrote...

And please, for the love of god, avoid that: https://www.youtube....?v=zRRpGlmtws8.

I suspect they will move to having a separate download for the DLC instead of just an unlock, but that's a pain in the *** for those of us with poor download speeds.

I couldn't actually play with Shale until about three days after I installed DA:O because the servers were slammed and the d/l would just quit on me. Likewise, I know at least one person who downloaded Shale but couldn't get it to install properly and so just didn't bother.

[FedericoV]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I suspect they will move to having a separate download for the DLC instead of just an unlock, but that's a pain in the *** for those of us with poor download speeds.

I couldn't actually play with Shale until about three days after I installed DA:O because the servers were slammed and the d/l would just quit on me. Likewise, I know at least one person who downloaded Shale but couldn't get it to install properly and so just didn't bother.

I understand: I really feel sympathy for people with poor download speed. But at the end, they are called downloadable content for a reason and you are supposed to use the internet if you want them. And if people experience problem with servers at release, let's just ask better and more powerful servers to EA.

If they put day 1 DLC on the CD and then just let you pay for the unlock... well, it really leaves a bad taste in the mouth and sounds like they are asking you money for something you already paid. I don't know if that's the case for From Ashes or not... still, avoiding day 1 DLC would remove one element of controversy and Bioware need everything but more controversies at release.

They already added the MP, they do not need anymore day 1 DLC as anti rent measure.

Modifié par FedericoV, 20 octobre 2012 - 10:20 .

[Sejborg]

I think it would be best to wait for a GOTY edition.

That way you get the full experience as it was intended from the get go, and not some lackluster experience with missing characters and missions, because the developers just wasn't able to meet the deadline with some chunks of the game.

I need to learn to pace myself better. That way I will also be able to get consumers reaction to the product and not just from reviewers who only have a handfull of days to play the game.

[nightscrawl]

Blair Brown wrote...

DLC packs give you the option to buy (or download, for free ones) only the things you want.  In skyrim for example, I bought the vampire DLC, but not the Hearthfire one because building a house doesn't interest me and killing vampires does.  If it was an expansion I would probably have to pay more for something I would only use half of.

While I did enjoy Legacy (very much) and MotA (lesser), I would have preferred to have had an expansion that continued with the story of DA2 itself than two story DLC that weren't really connected to DA2 plot-wise (what we would have gotten with the abandoned Exalted March expansion).

To me, an expansion is about continuing the story, or having a new story (perhaps with some of the same characters). I experienced this with all of the Neverwinter Nights expansions and with DAO Awakenings. Additional, non-story content (building a house) does seem like it would fit better in a separate DLC than in an expansion that adds new plots, characters, locations, etc.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 20 octobre 2012 - 12:17 .

[RedWulfi]

Id like a day 1 dlc that is FREE with all new copies of the game. Just as they did with Shale and the Black Emporium.

I'd like to be able to go to the Tevinter Imperium maybe. After the whole mage/templar conflict I think that place is gonna go off the rocket.