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[Parmida]

NO MODS! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!?


DUH! NEVERMIND! I'm in a really nerdrage-ish mood today....wanna smack someone.

[Vapaa]

Archaven wrote...

Devs and EA also understand the availability of mods would defeat the purpose of Item/weapon pack DLC#1, #2, #3... infinitium.

Mods and DLCs are not mutually exclusive; SR4 got offcial mod support, and still has annoying mini-DLCs

Modifié par Vapaä, 10 septembre 2013 - 04:52 .

[PinkDiamondstl]

No no no moding .If PC players get to mod or an toolset then they shouldn't be allowed to play/buy the DLCs it's only fair.

[Parmida]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

No no no moding .If PC players get to mod or an toolset then they shouldn't be allowed to play/buy the DLCs it's only fair.

What the f*ck is your problem with us using mods?!

[Gileadan]

Parmida wrote...
What the f*ck is your problem with us using mods?!

"If I can't have it, then so shouldn't you!"

[Parmida]

Gileadan wrote...

Parmida wrote...
What the f*ck is your problem with us using mods?!

"If I can't have it, then so shouldn't you!"

Pffffffft!

[PinkDiamondstl]

Parmida wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

No no no moding .If PC players get to mod or an toolset then they shouldn't be allowed to play/buy the DLCs it's only fair.

What the f*ck is your problem with us using mods?!

Because I wanna use mods too ! And for me to use mods I am forced to buy the pc ver of the same damn game all over again . That's what I really hate.

Modifié par PinkDiamondstl, 10 septembre 2013 - 05:02 .

[Parmida]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

Parmida wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

No no no moding .If PC players get to mod or an toolset then they shouldn't be allowed to play/buy the DLCs it's only fair.

What the f*ck is your problem with us using mods?!

Because I wanna use mods too ! And for me to use mods I am forced to buy the pc ver of the same damn game all over again . That's what I reall hate.

THAT's your reason? REALLY?!  COME AT BRAH! PC IS THE BEST! TAKE THAT!

[JCAP]

David Gaider wrote...

King Cousland wrote...
Mods (at least the kind I think you're referring to) require a toolset. It's been stated by BioWare that it's unlikely we'll get one for DA III but they are considering it.

Mods don't require a toolset. A toolset makes the creation of mods much easier, but even games without toolsets get modded... sometimes extensively.

There are currently no plans for a toolset (that I'm aware of, anyhow), but beyond that I've no idea how mod-friendly DAI will be (meaning how easy the native files will be to alter). Certainly we're very aware that PC users like to use mods, and that the existence of mods extend the life of the game on PC.

YES! A dev replied 11 months later!!! :lol::lol:



Not the kind of reply I was hoping for but thanks anyway 

Modifié par JCAP, 10 septembre 2013 - 05:13 .

[Fast Jimmy]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

Parmida wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

No no no moding .If PC players get to mod or an toolset then they shouldn't be allowed to play/buy the DLCs it's only fair.

What the f*ck is your problem with us using mods?!

Because I wanna use mods too ! And for me to use mods I am forced to buy the pc ver of the same damn game all over again . That's what I reall hate.

Well, by that logic, I don't want to spend extra money to buy a wireless adapter so my 360 can download DLCs. So because of my personal choice, you shouldn't be allowed to ever download or play DLC.

Thats what your argument sounds like. 

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 10 septembre 2013 - 05:05 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

Vapaä wrote...

Archaven wrote...

Devs and EA also understand the availability of mods would defeat the purpose of Item/weapon pack DLC#1, #2, #3... infinitium.

Mods and DLCs are not mutually exclusive; SR4 got offcial mod support, and still has annoying mini-DLCs

Think off it in this way, if you get mods you can make all that annoying stuff and still not pay for it. Those dlcs probably don't sell very well on PC and are meant for consoles, just like with Skyrim the Hearthfire was meant for consoles. A "Build your own home mod" already existed before it ever came out. 

[PinkDiamondstl]

Parmida wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

Parmida wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

No no no moding .If PC players get to mod or an toolset then they shouldn't be allowed to play/buy the DLCs it's only fair.

What the f*ck is your problem with us using mods?!

Because I wanna use mods too ! And for me to use mods I am forced to buy the pc ver of the same damn game all over again . That's what I reall hate.

THAT's your reason? REALLY?!  COME AT BRAH! PC IS THE BEST! TAKE THAT!

No a Gaming PC is the best. And the one I have my eye on I'm gonna be paying out the a** for.  Like car-note type prices. 

[JJDXB]

Archaven wrote...

Devs and EA also understand the availability of mods would defeat the purpose of Item/weapon pack DLC#1, #2, #3... infinitium.

So common sense telling you.. what they'll do best for themselves. Not for the community.

Eh, I can't speak for everyone but I've always preferred official content to modded content.  The only mods I use are bug-fixers, chargen modifiers and scene changers.  I don't know, modded weapons don't have the same quality, look/feel, or otherwise just don't fit into the game. 

[maliluka]

JCAP wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

King Cousland wrote...
Mods (at least the kind I think you're referring to) require a toolset. It's been stated by BioWare that it's unlikely we'll get one for DA III but they are considering it.

Mods don't require a toolset. A toolset makes the creation of mods much easier, but even games without toolsets get modded... sometimes extensively.

There are currently no plans for a toolset (that I'm aware of, anyhow), but beyond that I've no idea how mod-friendly DAI will be (meaning how easy the native files will be to alter). Certainly we're very aware that PC users like to use mods, and that the existence of mods extend the life of the game on PC.

YES! A dev replied me 11 months later!!! :lol::lol:



Not the kind of reply I was hoping for but thanks anyway 

But it said no plans currently... so there is still a slim hope

[Fast Jimmy]

No a Gaming PC is the best. And the one I have my eye on I'm gonna be paying out the a** for.  Like car-note type prices. 

So, one you get your "car note" PC... mods will be okay?

Do you hear yourself?

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 10 septembre 2013 - 05:06 .

[David Gaider]

Knock off the console/PC agitation, please.

And PinkDiamonds always brings this up every time mods are mentioned-- I think everyone's quite aware that mods are available to PC users only. If some console users wish to be bitter about that, that's their choice-- but it certainly doesn't affect anything, and there's no need to leap on PinkDiamond's griping as if failing to completely stomp that opinion down will suddenly make us agree with her.

[Parmida]

David Gaider wrote...

Knock off the console/PC agitation, please.

And PinkDiamonds always brings this up every time mods are mentioned-- I think everyone's quite aware that mods are available to PC users only. If some console users wish to be bitter about that, that's their choice-- but it certainly doesn't affect anything, and there's no need to leap on PinkDiamond's griping as if failing to completely stomp that opinion down will suddenly make us agree with her.

Okie Dokie Boss.

[Archaven]

JBDXB wrote...

Archaven wrote...

Devs and EA also understand the availability of mods would defeat the purpose of Item/weapon pack DLC#1, #2, #3... infinitium.

So common sense telling you.. what they'll do best for themselves. Not for the community.

Eh, I can't speak for everyone but I've always preferred official content to modded content.  The only mods I use are bug-fixers, chargen modifiers and scene changers.  I don't know, modded weapons don't have the same quality, look/feel, or otherwise just don't fit into the game. 

I'm not saying i hate DLCs.. what i'm saying i HATE item/weapon pack DLCs. I don't mind buying season pass for story content DLCs. but the item pack DLC #1, #2, #3 are just damn evil. If people bother buying.. devs probably won't bother releasing any good content DLCs. They rather just disallow mods, don't need to release a toolset and everyone just buying their pre-made mods. Insta cash win.

[Lord Raijin]

David Gaider wrote...

There are currently no plans for a toolset (that I'm aware of, anyhow), but beyond that I've no idea how mod-friendly DAI will be (meaning how easy the native files will be to alter). Certainly we're very aware that PC users like to use mods, and that the existence of mods extend the life of the game on PC.

I certainly hope that theirs plans for a toolset or creation kit, or whatever you might call it. The Mod writers in the Skyrim community made the game far more superior then anyone could ever imagine. This is coming from someone who is extremely critical about the game as a whole. The simple fact is mods is what makes the game worth playing. It allows the player to take full control over their game, and their charecters.


Dragon Age 1 http://dragonage.nexusmods.com/mods/categories//?
Dragon Age 2 http://dragonage2.nexusmods.com/mods/categories//?

Skyrim http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/categories//?

If you want DAI to be the next Skyrim then you should look into what keeps the players happy.... and that is by allowing us to add in mods into our game.

[Archaven]

And ALSO.. sorry for the cap.. back in the old days.. you were supposed to find those items/weapons IN the game.. not from buying in the DLCs.

[David Gaider]

Archaven wrote...
I'm not saying i hate DLCs.. what i'm saying i HATE item/weapon pack DLCs. I don't mind buying season pass for story content DLCs. but the item pack DLC #1, #2, #3 are just damn evil. If people bother buying.. devs probably won't bother releasing any good content DLCs. They rather just disallow mods, don't need to release a toolset and everyone just buying their pre-made mods. Insta cash win.

Two things:

1) If you don't like what a DLC offers, don't buy it. If nobody buys it, we won't make it.

2) We're well aware that people who use mods aren't necessarily going to buy every DLC, but not every DLC is made for them. Keep in mind that the majority of the game's user base does not have access to any kind of mod... and that's not just console users. The majority of PC users also don't use mods.

[t0mm06]

Archaven wrote...

I'm not saying i hate DLCs.. what i'm saying i HATE item/weapon pack DLCs. I don't mind buying season pass for story content DLCs. but the item pack DLC #1, #2, #3 are just damn evil. If people bother buying.. devs probably won't bother releasing any good content DLCs. They rather just disallow mods, don't need to release a toolset and everyone just buying their pre-made mods. Insta cash win.

This isn't true.
Weapon packs are not hard to make & they easily make the company much more money then it takes to make them, which means more money for things such as their next proper DLC. 

Releasing the Item packs for DA2 didnt make the Legacy any worse, in fact i would go as far as to say that both DLC for DA2 Was Far superior to the base game itself. Which shows that the item packs didnt take away from the story DLC. 

And if you think that providing a novelty that makes some people happy (i quite liked some of the item packs) is evil then thats a pity, because if more people were happy at the little things then they would probably be happier in general. 

Also your assumption that Mods would stop people from downloading DLC is flawed aswell, mods provide the game with a longer lifespan which  means that, for instance, 8 8 months after the game is released people who dont mod are more likely to have stopped playing the game and are less interested in extra content, where as someone who mods is more likely to want as much content as they can. 

I myself bough all of skyrims DLC because i continued to play be due to mods. Also (i'm not sure on this) but i read some stats on the DA2 forum a whiel ago that argued this exact thing, and it pointed that DLC for  DA:Origins sold a lot better then the DLC for DA2 and Origins was far more mod-able.

Sorry for the long post 

Modifié par t0mm06, 10 septembre 2013 - 06:06 .

[Elanor]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

Parmida wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

No no no moding .If PC players get to mod or an toolset then they shouldn't be allowed to play/buy the DLCs it's only fair.

What the f*ck is your problem with us using mods?!

Because I wanna use mods too ! And for me to use mods I am forced to buy the pc ver of the same damn game all over again . That's what I really hate.

Almost everyone want to use mods. And everyone who want them need to have PC. I don't see what's your problem. In my country it's called being like dog in manger I believe.


I'm very glad that Bioware is aware of need of modding. I hope they will try make it as easy as possible.

Modifié par Elanor1, 10 septembre 2013 - 06:16 .

[Magdalena11]

David Gaider wrote...

Archaven wrote...
I'm not saying i hate DLCs.. what i'm saying i HATE item/weapon pack DLCs. I don't mind buying season pass for story content DLCs. but the item pack DLC #1, #2, #3 are just damn evil. If people bother buying.. devs probably won't bother releasing any good content DLCs. They rather just disallow mods, don't need to release a toolset and everyone just buying their pre-made mods. Insta cash win.

Two things:

1) If you don't like what a DLC offers, don't buy it. If nobody buys it, we won't make it.

2) We're well aware that people who use mods aren't necessarily going to buy every DLC, but not every DLC is made for them. Keep in mind that the majority of the game's user base does not have access to any kind of mod... and that's not just console users. The majority of PC users also don't use mods.

Regarding your last point:  Is that true?  When I finally got a computer that could handle DA games my first thought was what mods I'd be able to run.  I was spoiled on some of the armors, weapons and plot fixes and wanted to make sure I'd still be able to experience them.  I can understand console users being jealous.  I was playing DA2 and my daughter's boyfriend commented that the game was a whole lot better on a PC than it was on his X-box.  He'd actually never finished the game because of the limitations of the platform.  I can understand console users wanting a game that is great with or without a PC but I don't want to give up the increased fun that modding allows.  I'll be getting the DLC because it will allow me to play for a few more hours.  I won't cheat Bioware out of any sales.  I want a wicked awesome game.