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Has there ever been a bigger disaster like the ME3 ending?


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Hexley UK wrote...

ME3 does not have thre worst ending ever (GAME OVER screens are worse for simple example) ....it does however have the worst ending in comparison to the quality of the preceding story ever.

This.

No one expected Gears of Brofist to have epic writing, this is not the case with ME 3 though.

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Someone said that the ME3 was the worst ending ever. That is simply not true. 

The GOW3 ending was the worst, cheesiest, dumbest, mos out of place thing, I've EVER seen in any videogame. It was just... wow. 

But enough about that.


Dumbest - matter of opinion
chessiest - maybe
Worst - not worst

ME3's ending may not be the worst ending ever but its on the list

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Mass Effect 3 was the most perfect CRPG I've ever played. I found the scenes in the beginning with the boy particularly moving. I loved the dream sequences. The ending was phenomenal and had me in tears. The best part of the game was when I was able to retrieve the Pillars of Strength for the Batarian priest and restore hope to the Batarian people even though I'd killed 300,000 of them. You have to admit, not every game gives a renegade player absolution of that magnitude.


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This is just perfect. Perfect sarcasm, followed by the perfect reaction in a meme. I want to frame this post and reply in a picture and put it on my wall. That kind of perfection! Well done to both of you.


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Just be glad you didn't experience the Gears of War 3 ending then. That would have made you depressed for years.


Okay, to reiterate some point here.. Wait, what!? What's so bad about the GoW3 ending that made you depressed? It was fitting because the entirety of the GoW plot was mediocre. Don't get me wrong. I LOVE GoW, in fact it's my no1 most played game, Multiplayer though. Plus I'm good at it ; ) . But the story was pretty lackluster.
So in that end, my expectations were never that high.

The only downside I had was that after the whole 3 games and years of my life. Myrrah died of a stab wound. This was only an issue for me until a friend pointed out that it was actually Dom's Knife that was used as the murder weapon.

RIGHT THERE!! Right in that small little fact.. Gears of War 3 ending had more symbolism than the ME3 ending.

Please tell me how you can hate GoW3 ending and love ME3 ending? They both had an off-switch, they were both received with some sense of mediocrity. Yet you sit here on the forums praising one while degrading the other? Image IPB

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Yeah, the part where he never said that, he said proportional, which means the amount of hate generated about the endings is about or equal to the amount of emotional investment people had in the game.


I see.  So you're interpretting "the hate" as the collective hate of all fans.  I am interpretting "the hate" on an individual basis.  From the words he typed, both are valid interpretations, he would need to clarify in order for us to know the true authorial intent.

If I'm misinterpretting then I apologize to him.  I have seen that argument many times on these forums and it always pisses me off so maybe I was too quick to assume that was his true meaning.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:40 .


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hey i forgave it all,. carmine survived. i was happy

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Uhhh whether GoW3's ending is better than ME3's ending is up for debate but ME3 is definitely not lacking symbolism.

In fact there was so much of it that even English teachers might be put off by it.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

ME3 does not have thre worst ending ever (GAME OVER screens are worse for simple example) ....it does however have the worst ending in comparison to the quality of the preceding story ever.

This.

No one expected Gears of Brofist to have epic writing, this is not the case with ME 3 though.


Pretty much yeah. I expected a lot better from Bioware.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Mass Effect 3 was the most perfect CRPG I've ever played. I found the scenes in the beginning with the boy particularly moving. I loved the dream sequences. The ending was phenomenal and had me in tears. The best part of the game was when I was able to retrieve the Pillars of Strength for the Batarian priest and restore hope to the Batarian people even though I'd killed 300,000 of them. You have to admit, not every game gives a renegade player absolution of that magnitude.


Image IPB



This is just perfect. Perfect sarcasm, followed by the perfect reaction in a meme. I want to frame this post and reply in a picture and put it on my wall. That kind of perfection! Well done to both of you.


Thank you kindly.

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

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I dont know if anyones ever read this but it makes some good points:

http://www.nowgamer...._your_hate.html


Thank you for that. At first I was like "huh?" but after reading through it. I realized something. Mass Effect 3 is still worse, Why you ask?

It combines the "off switch" talked about in Gears of War 3 and the nonsensicalness of Bionic Commando. But it also has the ambiguity and nihilism of previous choices that Deus Ex HR displayed.

To top it all off. Half of those games are just your generic TPS or FPS, they were more about gameplay and graphics then about story.

Especially GoW3, that's not even worth getting worked up about because Gears always had a pretty mediocre story, so it actually was a fitting end in that regard.


I read that article and almost spilled my drink. MGS4's ending worse than ME3? On what planet? I couldn't disagree more reading the other games too. It's like he's joking. Deus Ex HR's ending is worse because the choices you made didn't effect the ending? Oh you mean JUST like ME3?


Exactly, and I've heard NOTHING but good things about MGS4. So I didn't even bother reading that little sub-section. ALTHOUGH, i did skim through the "Why it's worse part?" and saw "its one of those cases of explaining too much."

So he has one where he says they explain too much, then the very next game on the list, bashes it for being too ambiguous?

Journalists like that are why we can't have nice things.

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hey i forgave it all,. carmine survived. i was happy


Exactly, one of the Carmines lived. How can you not like GoW3 after that lol

The best scene in the game

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Biotic Sage wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Yeah, the part where he never said that, he said proportional, which means the amount of hate generated about the endings is about or equal to the amount of emotional investment people had in the game.


I see.  So you're interpretting "the hate" as the collective hate of all fans.  I am interpretting "the hate" on an individual basis.  From the words he typed, both are valid interpretations, he would need to clarify in order for us to know the true authorial intent.

he never said that only people who were emotionally invested hated the game, he said the amount of hate generated was proportional to how emointally invested people were. Those are not interchangeable.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Mass Effect 3 was the most perfect CRPG I've ever played. I found the scenes in the beginning with the boy particularly moving. I loved the dream sequences. The ending was phenomenal and had me in tears. The best part of the game was when I was able to retrieve the Pillars of Strength for the Batarian priest and restore hope to the Batarian people even though I'd killed 300,000 of them. You have to admit, not every game gives a renegade player absolution of that magnitude.




This is just perfect. Perfect sarcasm, followed by the perfect reaction in a meme. I want to frame this post and reply in a picture and put it on my wall. That kind of perfection! Well done to both of you.


Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Just be glad you didn't experience the Gears of War 3 ending then. That would have made you depressed for years.


Okay, to reiterate some point here.. Wait, what!? What's so bad about the GoW3 ending that made you depressed? It was fitting because the entirety of the GoW plot was mediocre. Don't get me wrong. I LOVE GoW, in fact it's my no1 most played game, Multiplayer though. Plus I'm good at it ; ) . But the story was pretty lackluster.
So in that end, my expectations were never that high.

The only downside I had was that after the whole 3 games and years of my life. Myrrah died of a stab wound. This was only an issue for me until a friend pointed out that it was actually Dom's Knife that was used as the murder weapon.

RIGHT THERE!! Right in that small little fact.. Gears of War 3 ending had more symbolism than the ME3 ending.

Please tell me how you can hate GoW3 ending and love ME3 ending? They both had an off-switch, they were both received with some sense of mediocrity. Yet you sit here on the forums praising one while degrading the other? Image IPB

I can't stand the GOW 3 ending, but I love the ME3 ending. Yes. 

Oh and btw, the GOW3 ending didn't make me depressed. It just made me shake my head and never touch the campaign of that game, ever again.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Uhhh whether GoW3's ending is better than ME3's ending is up for debate but ME3 is definitely not lacking symbolism.

In fact there was so much of it that even English teachers might be put off by it.


Symbolism that doesn't make any sense unless you're talking about the Indoctrination Theory.

If you have any other points, list them please.

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I can't stand the GOW 3 ending, but I love the ME3 ending. Yes. 

Oh and btw, the GOW3 ending didn't make me depressed. It just made me shake my head and never touch the campaign of that game, ever again.


I already established all of that. How and why? It's still on topic...

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Yeah, the part where he never said that, he said proportional, which means the amount of hate generated about the endings is about or equal to the amount of emotional investment people had in the game.


I see.  So you're interpretting "the hate" as the collective hate of all fans.  I am interpretting "the hate" on an individual basis.  From the words he typed, both are valid interpretations, he would need to clarify in order for us to know the true authorial intent.

he never said that only people who were emotionally invested hated the game, he said the amount of hate generated was proportional to how emointally invested people were. Those are not interchangeable.


The fact that were still here after months shows that we still care

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Yeah, the part where he never said that, he said proportional, which means the amount of hate generated about the endings is about or equal to the amount of emotional investment people had in the game.


I see.  So you're interpretting "the hate" as the collective hate of all fans.  I am interpretting "the hate" on an individual basis.  From the words he typed, both are valid interpretations, he would need to clarify in order for us to know the true authorial intent.

he never said that only people who were emotionally invested hated the game, he said the amount of hate generated was proportional to how emointally invested people were. Those are not interchangeable. 


That is what he said: "The amount of hatred generated was proportional to how emotionally invested people were."  So an individual who was mildly emotionally invested generated a mild amount of hatred, an individual who was extremely emotionally invested generated an extreme amount of hatred, and an individual who was hardly emotionally invested generated hardly any hatred.  That seems proportional to me.  I completely get what you're saying but you don't seem to get what I'm saying.  Both are valid interpretations of his words.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:45 .


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Biotic Sage wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Yeah, the part where he never said that, he said proportional, which means the amount of hate generated about the endings is about or equal to the amount of emotional investment people had in the game.


I see.  So you're interpretting "the hate" as the collective hate of all fans.  I am interpretting "the hate" on an individual basis.  From the words he typed, both are valid interpretations, he would need to clarify in order for us to know the true authorial intent.

he never said that only people who were emotionally invested hated the game, he said the amount of hate generated was proportional to how emointally invested people were. Those are not interchangeable.  Both are valid interpretations of his words.


That is what he said: "The amount of hatred generated was proportional to how emotionally invested people were."  So an individual who was mildly emotionally invested generated a mild amount of hatred, an individual who was extremely emotionally invested generated an extreme amount of hatred, and an individual who was hardly emotionally invested generated hardly any hatred.  That seems proportional to me.  I completely get what you're saying but you don't seem to get what I'm saying.

your response to his comment came of as you taking what he said and taking it as " only people who were emotionally invested hated the game"

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AresKeith wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Yeah, the part where he never said that, he said proportional, which means the amount of hate generated about the endings is about or equal to the amount of emotional investment people had in the game.


I see.  So you're interpretting "the hate" as the collective hate of all fans.  I am interpretting "the hate" on an individual basis.  From the words he typed, both are valid interpretations, he would need to clarify in order for us to know the true authorial intent.

he never said that only people who were emotionally invested hated the game, he said the amount of hate generated was proportional to how emointally invested people were. Those are not interchangeable.


The fact that were still here after months shows that we still care

ok "are" I'm half asleep.

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You gotta wonder what the writers over in the DA3 team thought about all this.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Uhhh whether GoW3's ending is better than ME3's ending is up for debate but ME3 is definitely not lacking symbolism.

In fact there was so much of it that even English teachers might be put off by it.


Symbolism that doesn't make any sense unless you're talking about the Indoctrination Theory.

If you have any other points, list them please.


It's late so my memory is a bit foggy, but the ones that immediately comes to mind is the differences in how Shepard activates the Crucible for Control/Destroy/Synthesis.

After the Crucible blast there was the whole Garden of Eden religious symbolism. Oh and also that one scene where the Alliance soldier is being attacked by husks. After the Crucible hit Reapers/husks the sky started to clear up as if "the nightmare is over" so to speak.

A lot of it was either religious or cliche. TBH I would have preferred less symbolism.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Yeah, the part where he never said that, he said proportional, which means the amount of hate generated about the endings is about or equal to the amount of emotional investment people had in the game.


I see.  So you're interpretting "the hate" as the collective hate of all fans.  I am interpretting "the hate" on an individual basis.  From the words he typed, both are valid interpretations, he would need to clarify in order for us to know the true authorial intent.

he never said that only people who were emotionally invested hated the game, he said the amount of hate generated was proportional to how emointally invested people were. Those are not interchangeable.  Both are valid interpretations of his words.


That is what he said: "The amount of hatred generated was proportional to how emotionally invested people were."  So an individual who was mildly emotionally invested generated a mild amount of hatred, an individual who was extremely emotionally invested generated an extreme amount of hatred, and an individual who was hardly emotionally invested generated hardly any hatred.  That seems proportional to me.  I completely get what you're saying but you don't seem to get what I'm saying.

your response to his comment came of as you taking what he said and taking it as " only people who were emotionally invested hated the game"


Haha now that's not what I think I said!  I think people who weren't emotionally invested could hate the game too, but for other reasons than emotional closure.  This whole discussion is really not accomplishing anything though, if you want to keep going we can but I think we all get the gist of what we are trying to say regardless of semantics.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Uhhh whether GoW3's ending is better than ME3's ending is up for debate but ME3 is definitely not lacking symbolism.

In fact there was so much of it that even English teachers might be put off by it.


Symbolism that doesn't make any sense unless you're talking about the Indoctrination Theory.

If you have any other points, list them please.


It's late so my memory is a bit foggy, but the ones that immediately comes to mind is the differences in how Shepard activates the Crucible for Control/Destroy/Synthesis.

After the Crucible blast there was the whole Garden of Eden religious symbolism. Oh and also that one scene where the Alliance soldier is being attacked by husks. After the Crucible hit Reapers/husks the sky started to clear up as if "the nightmare is over" so to speak.

A lot of it was either religious or cliche. TBH I would have preferred less symbolism.


Every aspiring writer knows that Christian references automatically equals deep.

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

You gotta wonder what the writers over in the DA3 team thought about all this.


Hopefully double checking  to make sure they have alternatives to "die in a blaze of glory" endings 

Mediterranean: Also scrapping the ending that goes "and then the green blast of magic combines all life with the darkspawn, ensuring works peace through total understanding"

Modifié par iakus, 22 octobre 2012 - 06:12 .


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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Uhhh whether GoW3's ending is better than ME3's ending is up for debate but ME3 is definitely not lacking symbolism.

In fact there was so much of it that even English teachers might be put off by it.


Symbolism that doesn't make any sense unless you're talking about the Indoctrination Theory.

If you have any other points, list them please.


It's late so my memory is a bit foggy, but the ones that immediately comes to mind is the differences in how Shepard activates the Crucible for Control/Destroy/Synthesis.

After the Crucible blast there was the whole Garden of Eden religious symbolism. Oh and also that one scene where the Alliance soldier is being attacked by husks. After the Crucible hit Reapers/husks the sky started to clear up as if "the nightmare is over" so to speak.

A lot of it was either religious or cliche. TBH I would have preferred less symbolism.


Every aspiring writer knows that Christian references automatically equals deep.


Uh yea I never said I liked it.

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Worse than Alan Wake


I liked the end of Alan Wake. It's a supernatural psychological thriller, of course it was going to ask more questions than it answered.