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[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Mass Effect 3 was the most perfect CRPG I've ever played. I found the scenes in the beginning with the boy particularly moving. I loved the dream sequences. The ending was phenomenal and had me in tears. The best part of the game was when I was able to retrieve the Pillars of Strength for the Batarian priest and restore hope to the Batarian people even though I'd killed 300,000 of them. You have to admit, not every game gives a renegade player absolution of that magnitude.

[Armass81]

I dont know if anyones ever read this but it makes some good points:

http://www.nowgamer...._your_hate.html

Modifié par Armass81, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:15 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

[Jadebaby]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

Pretty sure the topic is referring to the ending, not the entire game.

In which, it actually is the worst ending I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.

Worse than Alan Wake, worse than I Am Alive, worse than Stephen King's 'The Mist'.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

Pretty sure the topic is referring to the ending, not the entire game.

In which, it actually is the worst ending I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.

Worse than Alan Wake, worse than I Am Alive, worse than Stephen King's 'The Mist'.

Just be glad you didn't experience the Gears of War 3 ending then. That would have made you depressed for years.

[AresKeith]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

Pretty sure the topic is referring to the ending, not the entire game.

In which, it actually is the worst ending I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.

Worse than Alan Wake, worse than I Am Alive, worse than Stephen King's 'The Mist'.

Haven't you heard, if you don't like the endings then you hate ME3 or the ME series as a whole

[Mathias]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Mass Effect 3 was the most perfect CRPG I've ever played. I found the scenes in the beginning with the boy particularly moving. I loved the dream sequences. The ending was phenomenal and had me in tears. The best part of the game was when I was able to retrieve the Pillars of Strength for the Batarian priest and restore hope to the Batarian people even though I'd killed 300,000 of them. You have to admit, not every game gives a renegade player absolution of that magnitude.

[Biotic Sage]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

The hatred for ME3's ending is proportional to the emotional investment people had in the series.

Man, I just love it when people make sweeping blanket statements and generalizations.  I know plenty of people who were VERY emotionally invested in the series and some of them loved the original ending and some of them hated it.  I've seen plenty of people here on the boards (I mean, the fact they are on the boards in the first place I'd say indicates a certain fanatical emotional investment, wouldn't you agree?) love and hate the endings.  So really that assertion you made there is a load of horse crap, I hope you haven't deluded yourself into believing it.

I myself was more emotionally invested than certainly any other video game series by far (I would say Zelda is close but that is a completely different animal).  I think the only series that even came close to my level of emotional investment in Mass Effect were Lost and Battlestar Galactica, maybe Breaking Bad as well at this point.  And I loved the original ME3 ending (except for the nitpicks of: a lack of context for why some squadmates would be on the Normandy at the end, a lack of context for why the Normandy was speeding away, and why Shepard didn't seem more concerned about the ramifications of "destroying mass relays" after his experiences in Arrival DLC).  That Battlestar ending was an unspeakable thing to me by the way, and Lost's finale (and most of the final season) was emotionally satisfying but intellectually disappointing. 

lolwut?

What are you going on about, did you read what he wrote?

Maybe I'm misinterpretting here, but I thought (and still think after going back and re-reading what he wrote), that he is of the position that if you ARE emotionally invested in Mass Effect then you will hate the ending and if you AREN'T emotionally invested in Mass Effect then it won't bother you as much.  Am I missing something?

[Hexley UK]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

Agreed.

That's just silly talk, I dislike ME3 for alot of reasons and I despise the ending but there are tons of overall worse games out there.

No other game disappointed me as much as ME3 however as ME1 & 2 are in my top ten favourite games easily.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

AresKeith wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

Pretty sure the topic is referring to the ending, not the entire game.

In which, it actually is the worst ending I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.

Worse than Alan Wake, worse than I Am Alive, worse than Stephen King's 'The Mist'.

Haven't you heard, if you don't like the endings then you hate ME3 or the ME series as a whole

It also makes you an entitled whiner.

[Mathias]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

Pretty sure the topic is referring to the ending, not the entire game.

In which, it actually is the worst ending I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.

Worse than Alan Wake, worse than I Am Alive, worse than Stephen King's 'The Mist'.

Just be glad you didn't experience the Gears of War 3 ending then. That would have made you depressed for years.

I found GoW3's ending vastly more satisfying than ME3's, and wasn't even all that good.

[AresKeith]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

Pretty sure the topic is referring to the ending, not the entire game.

In which, it actually is the worst ending I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.

Worse than Alan Wake, worse than I Am Alive, worse than Stephen King's 'The Mist'.

Just be glad you didn't experience the Gears of War 3 ending then. That would have made you depressed for years.

Well one of the Carmine brothers didn't die in Gears of War 3, that satisfyng enough for me

[Hexley UK]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

Pretty sure the topic is referring to the ending, not the entire game.

In which, it actually is the worst ending I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.

Worse than Alan Wake, worse than I Am Alive, worse than Stephen King's 'The Mist'.

Just be glad you didn't experience the Gears of War 3 ending then. That would have made you depressed for years.

GoW3 ending was crap yes but it wasn't the ending to a (supposedly) story and character driven RPG where your choices were supposed to make a difference to said story.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Biotic Sage wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

The hatred for ME3's ending is proportional to the emotional investment people had in the series.

Man, I just love it when people make sweeping blanket statements and generalizations.  I know plenty of people who were VERY emotionally invested in the series and some of them loved the original ending and some of them hated it.  I've seen plenty of people here on the boards (I mean, the fact they are on the boards in the first place I'd say indicates a certain fanatical emotional investment, wouldn't you agree?) love and hate the endings.  So really that assertion you made there is a load of horse crap, I hope you haven't deluded yourself into believing it.

I myself was more emotionally invested than certainly any other video game series by far (I would say Zelda is close but that is a completely different animal).  I think the only series that even came close to my level of emotional investment in Mass Effect were Lost and Battlestar Galactica, maybe Breaking Bad as well at this point.  And I loved the original ME3 ending (except for the nitpicks of: a lack of context for why some squadmates would be on the Normandy at the end, a lack of context for why the Normandy was speeding away, and why Shepard didn't seem more concerned about the ramifications of "destroying mass relays" after his experiences in Arrival DLC).  That Battlestar ending was an unspeakable thing to me by the way, and Lost's finale (and most of the final season) was emotionally satisfying but intellectually disappointing. 

lolwut?

What are you going on about, did you read what he wrote?

Maybe I'm misinterpretting here, but I thought (and still think after going back and re-reading what he wrote), that he is of the position that if you ARE emotionally invested in Mass Effect then you will hate the ending and if you AREN'T emotionally invested in Mass Effect then it won't bother you as much.  Am I missing something?

Yeah, the part where he never said that, he said proportional, which means the amount of hate generated about the endings is about or equal to the amount of emotional investment people had in the game.

[AresKeith]

Hexley UK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

Pretty sure the topic is referring to the ending, not the entire game.

In which, it actually is the worst ending I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.

Worse than Alan Wake, worse than I Am Alive, worse than Stephen King's 'The Mist'.

Just be glad you didn't experience the Gears of War 3 ending then. That would have made you depressed for years.

GoW3 ending was crap yes but it wasn't the ending to a (supposedly) story and character driven RPG where your choices were supposed to make a difference to said story.

It is weird trying to compare an RPG ending with Choices to a non-RPG ending

[Mathias]

Alright here's a question.

Will writing one of the worst endings in history be Mac's legacy as a writer?

[Jadebaby]

Armass81 wrote...

I dont know if anyones ever read this but it makes some good points:

http://www.nowgamer...._your_hate.html

Thank you for that. At first I was like "huh?" but after reading through it. I realized something. Mass Effect 3 is still worse, Why you ask?

It combines the "off switch" talked about in Gears of War 3 and the nonsensicalness of Bionic Commando. But it also has the ambiguity and nihilism of previous choices that Deus Ex HR displayed.

To top it all off. Half of those games are just your generic TPS or FPS, they were more about gameplay and graphics then about story.

Especially GoW3, that's not even worth getting worked up about because Gears always had a pretty mediocre story, so it actually was a fitting end in that regard.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Hexley UK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

Pretty sure the topic is referring to the ending, not the entire game.

In which, it actually is the worst ending I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.

Worse than Alan Wake, worse than I Am Alive, worse than Stephen King's 'The Mist'.

Just be glad you didn't experience the Gears of War 3 ending then. That would have made you depressed for years.

GoW3 ending was crap yes but it wasn't the ending to a (supposedly) story and character driven RPG where your choices were supposed to make a difference to said story.

GoW3: Oh hey, I won...
ME3: I.....won?

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Alright here's a question.

Will writing one of the worst endings in history be Mac's legacy as a writer?

Yes.

If I ever get the oppurtunity to go to a convention or anything where he is involved in the writing staff I want to ask a question at the Q&A  and ask " Was Mac Walters involved in the writing of the ending in any way?"  and if they say yes I will say " I should go."


That is my lifes dream....not really but I want to do it.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:30 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Hexley UK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

Pretty sure the topic is referring to the ending, not the entire game.

In which, it actually is the worst ending I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.

Worse than Alan Wake, worse than I Am Alive, worse than Stephen King's 'The Mist'.

Just be glad you didn't experience the Gears of War 3 ending then. That would have made you depressed for years.

GoW3 ending was crap yes but it wasn't the ending to a (supposedly) story and character driven RPG where your choices were supposed to make a difference to said story.

Someone said that the ME3 was the worst ending ever. That is simply not true. 

The GOW3 ending was the worst, cheesiest, dumbest, mos out of place thing, I've EVER seen in any videogame. It was just... wow. 

But enough about that.

[AresKeith]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Alright here's a question.

Will writing one of the worst endings in history be Mac's legacy as a writer?

Well before ME3, he was a decent character writer

Unless he was the one who wrote ME3's Kai Leng

[dreamgazer]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Alright here's a question.

Will writing one of the worst endings in history be Mac's legacy as a writer?

Worst? No.

Hated? Yes.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Someone said that the ME3 was the worst ending ever. That is simply not true. 

The GOW3 ending was the worst, cheesiest, dumbest, mos out of place thing, I've EVER seen in any videogame. It was just... wow. 

EDIT: I just rememebered the ending, nvm the question.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:36 .

[Hexley UK]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If Mass Effect 3 was the worst game you've ever played then I'm genuinely jealous of your ability to strategically dodge other games that are downright terrible.

Indeed. Wish I had that ability. 

Pretty sure the topic is referring to the ending, not the entire game.

In which, it actually is the worst ending I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.

Worse than Alan Wake, worse than I Am Alive, worse than Stephen King's 'The Mist'.

Just be glad you didn't experience the Gears of War 3 ending then. That would have made you depressed for years.

GoW3 ending was crap yes but it wasn't the ending to a (supposedly) story and character driven RPG where your choices were supposed to make a difference to said story.

Someone said that the ME3 was the worst ending ever. That is simply not true. 

The GOW3 ending was the worst, cheesiest, dumbest, mos out of place thing, I've EVER seen in any videogame. It was just... wow. 

But enough about that.

ME3 does not have thre worst ending ever (GAME OVER screens are worse for simple example) ....it does however have the worst ending in comparison to the quality of the preceding story ever.

[Mathias]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

I dont know if anyones ever read this but it makes some good points:

http://www.nowgamer...._your_hate.html

Thank you for that. At first I was like "huh?" but after reading through it. I realized something. Mass Effect 3 is still worse, Why you ask?

It combines the "off switch" talked about in Gears of War 3 and the nonsensicalness of Bionic Commando. But it also has the ambiguity and nihilism of previous choices that Deus Ex HR displayed.

To top it all off. Half of those games are just your generic TPS or FPS, they were more about gameplay and graphics then about story.

Especially GoW3, that's not even worth getting worked up about because Gears always had a pretty mediocre story, so it actually was a fitting end in that regard.

I read that article and almost spilled my drink. MGS4's ending worse than ME3? On what planet? I couldn't disagree more reading the other games too. It's like he's joking. Deus Ex HR's ending is worse because the choices you made didn't effect the ending? Oh you mean JUST like ME3?