Cthulhu42 wrote...
Interesting fact: the only main plot missions where you have full control of which squadmates come are Sanctuary and Earth.
Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous.
This is BSN, facts are not required, only conviction.djspectre wrote...
Cthulhu42 wrote...
Interesting fact: the only main plot missions where you have full control of which squadmates come are Sanctuary and Earth.
Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous.
The entire tuchanka series you could choose who you wanted. Same goes for all 3 priority citadel missions. I think you don't have your facts correct.
JohnShepard12 wrote...
I read the whole thread. Seems to me the issue still stands. I believe Tevos knew and displayed greed in "protecting" the secret until Shepard flew all the way to the Citadel to chat with her. Could have just told me over hologram and picked it up before Cerberus was there and before the Reapers made so much headway on their planet.Bob the Elcor wrote...
JohnShepard12 wrote...
She had the nerve to facepalm at my Shepard, who risked his life to get that data. Could've have completed he Crucible weeks ago if that b*tch had spilled the secret then.Xilizhra wrote...
So... you're condemning Tevos for being upset? She wasn't even angry at you.
With disparity, look two posts above yours, that argument has already been had and concluded.
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StarcloudSWG wrote...
The best "what if" scenario I can think of is 'What if Liara and Shepard went to Thessia on vacation for a couple weeks after the events of Mass Effect?'
Liara would've taken Shepard to the Temple of Athame. And Mass Effect 2 would have been a very, very different story.
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This is BSN, facts are not required, only conviction.djspectre wrote...
Cthulhu42 wrote...
Interesting fact: the only main plot missions where you have full control of which squadmates come are Sanctuary and Earth.
Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous.
The entire tuchanka series you could choose who you wanted. Same goes for all 3 priority citadel missions. I think you don't have your facts correct.
THEY DIDN'T. IT'S NOT FREAKING POSSIBLE. ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY HAD NO IDEA THAT VENDETTA WAS ON IT DESPITE IT POPPING OUT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY UPON ACTIVATION. THE CIPHER WAS A NECESSITY FOR THIS, AND THE ASARI COULD NEVER HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM IT.JBPBRC wrote...
StarcloudSWG wrote...
The best "what if" scenario I can think of is 'What if Liara and Shepard went to Thessia on vacation for a couple weeks after the events of Mass Effect?'
Liara would've taken Shepard to the Temple of Athame. And Mass Effect 2 would have been a very, very different story.
Speaking of the Temple/Beacon, just how did the Asari get the beacon to work and understand it with no Protheans? Or did they just get their technological "boost" out of the seizure-inducing visions and just went off of those.
. That s not true. Humans used data on Mars without the cipher, other species developed space flight without the cipher. The cipher is only needed for the reaper warnings because it was a message meant specifically for organicsXilizhra wrote...
THEY DIDN'T. IT'S NOT FREAKING POSSIBLE. ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY HAD NO IDEA THAT VENDETTA WAS ON IT DESPITE IT POPPING OUT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY UPON ACTIVATION. THE CIPHER WAS A NECESSITY FOR THIS, AND THE ASARI COULD NEVER HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM IT.JBPBRC wrote...
Speaking of the Temple/Beacon, just how did the Asari get the beacon to work and understand it with no Protheans? Or did they just get their technological "boost" out of the seizure-inducing visions and just went off of those.StarcloudSWG wrote...
The best "what if" scenario I can think of is 'What if Liara and Shepard went to Thessia on vacation for a couple weeks after the events of Mass Effect?'
Liara would've taken Shepard to the Temple of Athame. And Mass Effect 2 would have been a very, very different story.
Different format. That was one of the Reaper warning beacons, not just a data storage device. I'm not entirely sure why they used a different format, but Anderson basically says in ME1 that the beacon is an entirely new thing, one the Alliance hasn't seen before.. That s not true. Humans used data on Mars without the cipher, other species developed space flight without the cipher. The cipher is only needed for the reaper warnings because it was a message meant specifically for organics
. The beacons are storage devices. This is explained by Vigil and Javik. Only difference is that the reaper warning can only be comprehended by an organic with the cipher.Xilizhra wrote...
Different format. That was one of the Reaper warning beacons, not just a data storage device. I'm not entirely sure why they used a different format, but Anderson basically says in ME1 that the beacon is an entirely new thing, one the Alliance hasn't seen before.. That s not true. Humans used data on Mars without the cipher, other species developed space flight without the cipher. The cipher is only needed for the reaper warnings because it was a message meant specifically for organics
Storage devices, but a different kind. Note too that Tevos had no idea what was on it.Steelcan wrote...
. The beacons are storage devices. This is explained by Vigil and Javik. Only difference is that the reaper warning can only be comprehended by an organic with the cipher.Xilizhra wrote...
Different format. That was one of the Reaper warning beacons, not just a data storage device. I'm not entirely sure why they used a different format, but Anderson basically says in ME1 that the beacon is an entirely new thing, one the Alliance hasn't seen before.. That s not true. Humans used data on Mars without the cipher, other species developed space flight without the cipher. The cipher is only needed for the reaper warnings because it was a message meant specifically for organics
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I really liked the character in ME2 and at the start of ME3.
Liara's problem was that her character seemed to have had several people write her, and each had a different idea regarding dialogue, emotion, etc. I would have had her keep the LotSB personality during the war and what we saw on Mars. More focused and a hell of a lot less naive. But it was like she had multiple personalities.
WTF? Who is this person in this act? One time she's focused and ruthless. Another she's the ME1 Liara on Therum. I blame the writers. The writing was pretty bad. Her character deserved a lot better.
Hell, this entire game deserved a lot better writing.
I don't agree at all. All her lines made sense for the circumstances.EnvyTB075 wrote...
David7204 wrote...
It would be unrealistic if the squad returned to Eden Prime and nobody even mentioned that it's where things began.
With the right lines, sure, but hers comes across so damned cheesy that i wanted nothing more than to throw a brick at the screen.
It was obviously made for newbies....amoungst other things....
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IsaacShep wrote...
Liara caring about Thessia is not a problem. It's a problem how suddenly everyone has to comfort her and how big of a deal Bioware made it compared to everyone else. NO ONE is comforting Ash/Kaidan/Vega/Steve/Sam/Joker about Earth, constantly talking how sad it is etc. Few people make a short "I'm sorry about Earth Shep" and that's it. That's why it feels so forced, especially Shepard's railroaded flip out at Joker.
To me isn't because Thessia is more or less regarded the terrestrial capital of the galaxy. It's where all the (non-Citadel) centers of culture and government are, overall.
The loss of Earth means the Reapers are serious and in everyones' faces.
The loss the Palaven would mean the war is damaged hugely and may not ever be able to turn onto the organics' side.
But the loss of Thessia.. that's a bit of the soul (for better or worse) of the galaxy estinguished. There's a reason why Shepard begins to falter here (whether in a literal or IT view of the story).
Lose Thessia (and they did), and it becomes a lot less of a war, and more of a desperate struggle.
What? This makes no sense. At all. Thessia is no Rome. It might be the richest planet in the galaxy, but the center of the galaxy government is the Citadel.
. I don't recall seeing Shepard, Vega, VS, Garrus, or anybody else crying into their bed because their planets fell. Maybe if she just wasn't so damn whiny about it it wouldn't be so bad, but that's all she does. Grow some balls, or go back to the ship. He'll, Javik's entire freakin species has Ben eradicated, what does he do? Grits his teeth and carries on, he doesn't be one a wailing mess over it.MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
How was she annoying? Her home planet was being burned to the ground in front of her eyes? You would be acting the same if YOUR home was being destroyed by colossal machines from Dark Space.
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. Then she should know she can't handle it and she should to back to the ship, not annoy Shepard and the other squaddie the whole timeLogan Cloud wrote...
I can kinda see why someone would think that, but at the same time...
Well, I'm pretty sure no one here has ever witnessed billions of people being harvested, lasered, ripped to shreds, blown up, etc.
And as for the "Shepard saw that too" people lurking around in here, (and they always are) Shepard is a grown soldier. Liara is a barely mature scientist. There's a huge difference.
This has been explained already. Read up further.Steelcan wrote...
. I don't recall seeing Shepard, Vega, VS, Garrus, or anybody else crying into their bed because their planets fell. Maybe if she just wasn't so damn whiny about it it wouldn't be so bad, but that's all she does. Grow some balls, or go back to the ship. He'll, Javik's entire freakin species has Ben eradicated, what does he do? Grits his teeth and carries on, he doesn't be one a wailing mess over it.MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
How was she annoying? Her home planet was being burned to the ground in front of her eyes? You would be acting the same if YOUR home was being destroyed by colossal machines from Dark Space.
. She stoppd being innocent to me when on MarsNerana wrote...
While I'm no best pals with Liara and at some point I did feel a bit annoyance about her reaction to the banshees (humans had husks long before that) and her reaction on her home planet.
But then she's quite "young" by Asari standards and she's a civilian. (sort of) so I tend to give her a break. I know she changes in the games but even in the third one, she still seems sort of innocent. I could be wrong, I havn't really read any comics with her (or anyone else for that matter) and she wouldn't be the first messed up character in ME3 due to fail writing.
Funny how all your examples are soldiers, not civilians, which Liara is.Steelcan wrote...
. I don't recall seeing Shepard, Vega, VS, Garrus, or anybody else crying into their bed because their planets fell. Maybe if she just wasn't so damn whiny about it it wouldn't be so bad, but that's all she does. Grow some balls, or go back to the ship. He'll, Javik's entire freakin species has Ben eradicated, what does he do? Grits his teeth and carries on, he doesn't be one a wailing mess over it.MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
How was she annoying? Her home planet was being burned to the ground in front of her eyes? You would be acting the same if YOUR home was being destroyed by colossal machines from Dark Space.
. Yes, I can read. But the point still stands. If she can't handle it she shouldn't be on the NormandyXilizhra wrote...
This has been explained already. Read up further.Steelcan wrote...
. I don't recall seeing Shepard, Vega, VS, Garrus, or anybody else crying into their bed because their planets fell. Maybe if she just wasn't so damn whiny about it it wouldn't be so bad, but that's all she does. Grow some balls, or go back to the ship. He'll, Javik's entire freakin species has Ben eradicated, what does he do? Grits his teeth and carries on, he doesn't become a wailing mess over it.MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
How was she annoying? Her home planet was being burned to the ground in front of her eyes? You would be acting the same if YOUR home was being destroyed by colossal machines from Dark Space.
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