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[fchopin]

I was thinking that Bioware could sell Origin DLC’s for DA3 if they are too expensive to include them in the game.
 
I would be willing to buy them if they are as good as the DAO Origins. What do people think?

[Battlebloodmage]

I would be okay with it if it wasn't something like a "key" to unlock hidden contents like with Capcom games. It just wouldn't make sense for me as a customer that I should pay for something that has already been in the game. Granted, it's only a few bucks, but it's the principle that matters.

[mousestalker]

If I buy the game, I would definitely buy those DLC's. The origin stories in DAO were lovely.

[fchopin]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

I would be okay with it if it wasn't something like a "key" to unlock hidden contents like with Capcom games.

I am only asking for Origin DLC’s if they are not included in the game.
I like them in DAO and would love to have a few options in DA3.

[AlexJK]

fchopin wrote...

I was thinking that Bioware could sell Origin DLC’s for DA3 if they are too expensive to include them in the game.
I would be willing to buy them if they are as good as the DAO Origins. What do people think?

If any such origin stories were so superficial as to be completely and totally optional, then no I'd rather not bother with them at all, and have those development resources put towards other game content.

[fchopin]

AlexJK wrote...

fchopin wrote...

I was thinking that Bioware could sell Origin DLC’s for DA3 if they are too expensive to include them in the game.
I would be willing to buy them if they are as good as the DAO Origins. What do people think?

If any such origin stories were so superficial as to be completely and totally optional, then no I'd rather not bother with them at all, and have those development resources put towards other game content.

Are you saying you did not like them in DAO and did you try any?

[AlexJK]

fchopin wrote...

Are you saying you did not like them in DAO and did you try any?

No, I'm not saying that at all. I played all of the origin stories in DAO, and completed the game with a female elf mage, female human noble and male city elf. I appreciated their presence and liked most of them (except Dalish).

What I'm saying is this: in DAO, your choice of origin story truly created your character's perspective - whether from what you did, saw, or some betrayal you suffered. The origin was interwoven throughout the game, with many characters treating you differently depending on your origin, and some quests being different. You also had a different perspective on NPCs depending on what you'd seen happen in your origin story (eg. Bhelen, Arl Howe). It would not have been possible to strip all of this connectivity out of the game to release as DLC. (Well, possible maybe, but not desirable or sensible.)

I don't want to see origins developed as DLC, thus forcing them to be completely optional (as some people would not have them) and reducing their integration with the rest of the game to nothing (thereby making them just a curiosity to playthrough on the side), or to simply a line here, a quest there. Either they should be included, if origins are necessary and/or useful to the story of DA3, or they should not be.

Personally I'd like to see faction-based origin stories (of some kind) in DA3 - ie. mage or templar, possibly with a neutral third option. That would seem to make sense given what little we know about the story, and give lots of possibilities for optional quests and different reactions and choices down the line. Racial choice would be nice, but tbh not essential for me - it worked for the Warden, but DA lore maybe doesn't allow so easily for Templar dwarves and such?

All IMHO of course.

Modifié par AlexJK, 18 octobre 2012 - 11:55 .

[fchopin]

If they included origins in DA3 i would be very happy as that would be the best way but if not for cost reasons i would be happy to buy them as dlc only if they were done well and had meaning in the game.

[sylvanaerie]

AlexJK wrote...

fchopin wrote...

Are you saying you did not like them in DAO and did you try any?

No, I'm not saying that at all. I played all of the origin stories in DAO, and completed the game with a female elf mage, female human noble and male city elf. I appreciated their presence and liked most of them (except Dalish).

What I'm saying is this: in DAO, your choice of origin story truly created your character's perspective - whether from what you did, saw, or some betrayal you suffered. The origin was interwoven throughout the game, with many characters treating you differently depending on your origin, and some quests being different. You also had a different perspective on NPCs depending on what you'd seen happen in your origin story (eg. Bhelen, Arl Howe). It would not have been possible to strip all of this connectivity out of the game to release as DLC. (Well, possible maybe, but not desirable or sensible.)

I don't want to see origins developed as DLC, thus forcing them to be completely optional (as some people would not have them) and reducing their integration with the rest of the game to nothing (thereby making them just a curiosity to playthrough on the side), or to simply a line here, a quest there. Either they should be included, if origins are necessary and/or useful to the story of DA3, or they should not be.

Personally I'd like to see faction-based origin stories (of some kind) in DA3 - ie. mage or templar, possibly with a neutral third option. That would seem to make sense given what little we know about the story, and give lots of possibilities for optional quests and different reactions and choices down the line. Racial choice would be nice, but tbh not essential for me - it worked for the Warden, but DA lore maybe doesn't allow so easily for Templar dwarves and such?

All IMHO of course.

I like this idea (bolded).   Not only would you get to pick your race and class but your 'story' outlook determined by what you pick, then it unfolds in somewhat different ways.  In Bioware's Star Wars game, each class has its own specific storyline, which is integrated into the overall journey of that character.  Perhaps the three factions (if there are three) could have its own storyline, with some more common to all three quests to flesh out the tale, making each 'origin' unique to its playthrough, even if some elements are more common.  LIke how certain choices (whether or not to support mages or templars) in DA2 played out with different quests for Hawke.

For Origins to be implemented as a DLC, umm count me out.  If something is so minor to the story as to be an 'afterthought', I sure as hell wouldn't want it.   I'd want my origin to matter if I was able to pick one, not just buy it and include it later with my story when I'm either halfway done or finished.  "Oh so that's why my elven mage was like that...would have been nice to know when I first made her..."

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 18 octobre 2012 - 12:08 .

[Felya87]

I think Origins (and playable races) shoul already be included in the game. Is not a bad idea to have them as DLC, but I think it would be too difficult to make them compatible with the game and the story, expecially if there should be difference in game.

But I am ok for companion DLC. If they are not insulse as Sebastian, but well done and interesting as Shale.

[Sanunes]

The problem with DLC like this is it has a limited market and companies want to reach as many people as possible, so I don't think they would release one that you can't play the protagonist of the main game for you can see people get attached to those characters and they might not buy a DLC that doesn't feature them.

[marshalleck]

If Bioware really want to rake in the cash:

1) Implement origin stories in the base game
2) All romances are DLC, essentially a dating sim suite

[Rune-Chan]

AlexJK wrote...

fchopin wrote...

Are you saying you did not like them in DAO and did you try any?

No, I'm not saying that at all. I played all of the origin stories in DAO, and completed the game with a female elf mage, female human noble and male city elf. I appreciated their presence and liked most of them (except Dalish).

What I'm saying is this: in DAO, your choice of origin story truly created your character's perspective - whether from what you did, saw, or some betrayal you suffered. The origin was interwoven throughout the game, with many characters treating you differently depending on your origin, and some quests being different. You also had a different perspective on NPCs depending on what you'd seen happen in your origin story (eg. Bhelen, Arl Howe). It would not have been possible to strip all of this connectivity out of the game to release as DLC. (Well, possible maybe, but not desirable or sensible.)

I don't want to see origins developed as DLC, thus forcing them to be completely optional (as some people would not have them) and reducing their integration with the rest of the game to nothing (thereby making them just a curiosity to playthrough on the side), or to simply a line here, a quest there. Either they should be included, if origins are necessary and/or useful to the story of DA3, or they should not be.

Personally I'd like to see faction-based origin stories (of some kind) in DA3 - ie. mage or templar, possibly with a neutral third option. That would seem to make sense given what little we know about the story, and give lots of possibilities for optional quests and different reactions and choices down the line. Racial choice would be nice, but tbh not essential for me - it worked for the Warden, but DA lore maybe doesn't allow so easily for Templar dwarves and such?

All IMHO of course.

Personally I'd like an origin story, but I do not think it's essential for me. What is essential in my opinion is that everything that they include is done so whole heartedly, no half a**ed inclusions to appease certain demographics where they don't have much point in being there.

So in other words: If they are willing to put as much effort into the origins as they did with DA:O, then excellent, if they are not, then I'd prefer they spent their time and energy on something that is worth adding.

DLC is a bad idea anyway, unless it's not relevent to the main story. If a player misses out on a crucial story element because they don't want to cough up some extra money, then that's a horrible way to treat a customer. It's one of my largest criticism's of Biowares previous DLC's.

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 18 octobre 2012 - 12:42 .

[AlexJK]

Machines Are Us wrote...

DLC is a bad idea anyway, unless it's not relevent to the main story. If a player misses out on a crucial story element because they don't want to cough up some extra money, then that's a horrible way to treat a customer. It's one of my largest criticism's of Biowares previous DLC's.

Which previous early-release DLCs (that is, not including ones that are developed and released post-launch as additional content) have contained crucial story elements? The only one I can think of that's close is Javik from ME3, and he turned out to be pretty much pointless anyway.

Modifié par AlexJK, 18 octobre 2012 - 12:54 .

[JWvonGoethe]

How about releasing Origins stories as free demos a few months before the game's launch, in addition to including these same Origins stories in the main game? This would allow players to create lots of different protagonists, as well as emotionally invest in their characters, making a follow up purchase of the game that much more likely.

It's not going to happen of course.

EDIT: I should just clarify that I do not expect Bioware to offer Origin stories as priced DLCs, that I would not like them to do so and that, despite hoping (unwisely) that Origins will return, I would not purchase them in the form of DLCs.

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 18 octobre 2012 - 03:39 .

[scootermcgaffin]

If they can do it without the rest of the game suffering, sure. The Origins were the best part of DA:O to be sure, but that's because the rest of the game was rather lackluster and not because the Origins were just that great.

[Aulis Vaara]

No. I'm not EVER going to buy a game in parts. Give me a finished quality product and I'll probably buy any add-ons, but don't cut out things to sell as DLC.

I bought DLC for DA:O because DA:O was such a kick-ass game, and not because I felt those things were missing from the game. I didn't buy any DLC for ME3, because I felt A LOT of things were missing from that game and I refuse to pay money for those.

A quality product first and foremost, PLEASE !

[ianvillan]

Nizaris1 wrote...

Why not make the whole game is DLCs?

The original CD only contain a camp and main character....the rest are DLCs....

You could have it that if you wish to play female you have to get DLC, if you wish to be a mage or rogue you get the mage DLC or rogue DLC. Elf DLC, Dwarf DLC or Qunari DLC.

They could also have no companions they are all DLC, and act 2 and act 3 will be seperate DLC.

Actually even though I am a big fan of Origins and keep trying to get them back I would not buy any Origins if they were DLC, if Bioware decides to not have Origins or different races in the main game I would prefer it that they just not do them at all.

[xJorgexBK]

it could be great, but i think, if they agree that dlc, they must add all dlc's from origins, like witch hunt

[KENNY4753]

If it would get me a Dalish origin story, I would be all for buying the dlc.

Modifié par KENNY4753, 18 octobre 2012 - 04:16 .

[Giltspur]

It might work.

What if during the events of DA2 it turns out Cassandra was looking for Hawke so that he could become the Inquisitor and that Leliana was looking for the Warden as another Inquisitor candidate.  They couldn't find either.  So what if the PC for DA3 also has a heroic background, and he's the one that ends up taking the mantle of the Inquisitor.  If the game starts right at the time of some disaster for the Chantry then it might make sense to have "Origin DLC" after the fact to to explore what made people want him to have a leadership role.

[unbentbuzzkill]

why must you give bioware more ideas to take more money from us.

[fchopin]

unbentbuzzkill wrote...

why must you give bioware more ideas to take more money from us.

I am not trying to give Bioware ideas, all i want is to have different origins just like DAO as they were what made the game so good to replay.