Fast Jimmy wrote...
Its still a great one. Honestly, in terms of continuity, overall story and moving the plot forward while referencing the original story, its one of the best trilogies of all time. They should use it as a teaching reference in film schools (I am not in the least bit being sarcastic here).
Foolsfolly wrote...
David Gaider wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Anders is actually in Kirkwall at the same time when he is in Amaranthine too. So Hawke meets him before he dies at Vigil`s Keep...go figure.
I've seen this supposition before, and I'm uncertain how someone arrives at it. With a year's jump after Hawke arrives at Kirkwall, how is that the same time period of Awakening, exactly?
I believe there's a reference inside DA:O that the game takes place roughly in a year.
Fast Jimmy wrote...
I honestly have a feeling that the end fo DA3 is going to have a rather large reset button. An event that happens that will put all previous histories, lore, choices and possiblities into the realm of "completely irrelevant." Something like a world changing event, where entire kingdoms are toppled and up becomes down, day becomes night sort of deal. A way to wipe the slate clean and start fresh.
Foolsfolly wrote...
Why does BSN really hate Leliana? She's pretty, has a wonderful voice actress, and gives us a face for Dorothea's reign as Divine.
unbentbuzzkill wrote...
some people dislike lelianna because if your warden romanced her and then he/she dissapears and it seems like lelianna doesn't even care.
unbentbuzzkill wrote...
some people dislike lelianna because if your warden romanced her and then he/she dissapears and it seems like lelianna doesn't even care.
Foolsfolly wrote...
But if the Warden's dead surely 8-10 years later she's over that, right?
Bfler wrote...
Foolsfolly wrote...
But if the Warden's dead surely 8-10 years later she's over that, right?
Doesn't she commit suicide if he is dead?
I believe the Awakening epilogue hints that Anders, after leaving BRIEFLY, returns to Vigil's Keep for several years.David Gaider wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Anders is actually in Kirkwall at the same time when he is in Amaranthine too. So Hawke meets him before he dies at Vigil`s Keep...go figure.
I've seen this supposition before, and I'm uncertain how someone arrives at it. With a year's jump after Hawke arrives at Kirkwall, how is that the same time period of Awakening, exactly?
Bfler wrote...
Foolsfolly wrote...
But if the Warden's dead surely 8-10 years later she's over that, right?
Doesn't she commit suicide if he is dead?
The epilogue slides don't mean anything anymore.Bfler wrote...
Foolsfolly wrote...
But if the Warden's dead surely 8-10 years later she's over that, right?
Doesn't she commit suicide if he is dead?
Foolsfolly wrote...
Bfler wrote...
Foolsfolly wrote...
But if the Warden's dead surely 8-10 years later she's over that, right?
Doesn't she commit suicide if he is dead?
I remember an epilogue where she sang a sad song about the Warden and then disappeared. Got that one a few times in Origins. The implication I gathered from that was probably dead but maybe just wandering aimless waiting for death.
Both are a little dramatic isn't it? But than again... it is Leliana...
LobselVith8 wrote...
Foolsfolly wrote...
David Gaider wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Anders is actually in Kirkwall at the same time when he is in Amaranthine too. So Hawke meets him before he dies at Vigil`s Keep...go figure.
I've seen this supposition before, and I'm uncertain how someone arrives at it. With a year's jump after Hawke arrives at Kirkwall, how is that the same time period of Awakening, exactly?
I believe there's a reference inside DA:O that the game takes place roughly in a year.
Wynne notes that it's been an entire year since the mage protagonist left the Circle of Ferelden. There's also the months that transpired between the demise of the Archdemon Urthemiel and the royal ceremony where the Hero of Ferelden can ask for a royal boon (as the developers said it took place a few months afterward and not immediately), and the six months that took place between the royal ceremony and the events of Amaranthine.
Rawgrim wrote...
Yup. Meaning Anders is two places at once + he is alive when he should be dead too. Way worse than Leliana being retconned. Dead Anders actually starts a war. Doubt that whould have happened if our choices in the previous games actually, you know, mattered one bit. When DA3 comes out I am going to ditch my imports. They arn`t working well anyway.
Atakuma wrote...
The epilogue slides don't mean anything anymore.Bfler wrote...
Foolsfolly wrote...
But if the Warden's dead surely 8-10 years later she's over that, right?
Doesn't she commit suicide if he is dead?
Tommyspa wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Yup. Meaning Anders is two places at once + he is alive when he should be dead too. Way worse than Leliana being retconned. Dead Anders actually starts a war. Doubt that whould have happened if our choices in the previous games actually, you know, mattered one bit. When DA3 comes out I am going to ditch my imports. They arn`t working well anyway.
The problem is that do you really believe that Act 1 takes place Immediately after the blight is ended? Or that act 1 actually has to take place if the first month or so of that year. It could easily fit anywhere within the year considering Awakening starts 6 months after DAO ends and it doesn't seem to take a great deal of time to be over considering you are traveling very short distances compared to DAO so it could be over in a month or two if not simply a few weeks. Act 1 could easily just be 6-8 months into the year. Meaning there is no timeline error at all.
People don't speak in absolutes of time though. And they start talking about the blight because it is the first oppurtunity to do so in game not proof of it just ended, but for the player to hear reactions about their former character. Not to mention that the game also acknowledges that the events of Awakening have taken place when to get the quest to kill the nobles who conspired against the warden commander in Awakening. And the people in the tavern talk about the blight years after too. I don't think you can go with that source as being reliable or indicitive of time past. IIRC the only mention of a "year" since the blight ended came directly from Varric who doesn't mention time past between the trip to Gwaren or overly exact in saying a year, which would be easier than just saying 9 months have past since the blight was ended and lumped it together with the year of servitude for the sake of shortening lines for the actor to not convolute the intro, for example.Rawgrim wrote...
Tommyspa wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Yup. Meaning Anders is two places at once + he is alive when he should be dead too. Way worse than Leliana being retconned. Dead Anders actually starts a war. Doubt that whould have happened if our choices in the previous games actually, you know, mattered one bit. When DA3 comes out I am going to ditch my imports. They arn`t working well anyway.
The problem is that do you really believe that Act 1 takes place Immediately after the blight is ended? Or that act 1 actually has to take place if the first month or so of that year. It could easily fit anywhere within the year considering Awakening starts 6 months after DAO ends and it doesn't seem to take a great deal of time to be over considering you are traveling very short distances compared to DAO so it could be over in a month or two if not simply a few weeks. Act 1 could easily just be 6-8 months into the year. Meaning there is no timeline error at all.
During act 1, even with Anders in the party, you start hearing news that the blight has just ended. I belive people mention it in the tavern. I doubt it takes half a year for the news to reach Kirkwall. Blight starts - Hawkes flees. Hawke Arrives in Kirkwall - Warden just gets started with recruiting armies. 1 year passes- Blight is ended. News about it is about Kirkwall. Anders is in Kirkwall at the time, in Hawke`s party. When he would actually be on his way to Amaranthine, or having just arrived there.
The Hierophant wrote...
To keep things simple it's better to imagine that Hawke meets Anders 3 months after Awakening's epilogue.
Justice probably found his body in the keep, but it reaches wtf territory if you gave Anders to the Templars in the beginning.Rawgrim wrote...
The Hierophant wrote...
To keep things simple it's better to imagine that Hawke meets Anders 3 months after Awakening's epilogue.
This is true. Problem is, he died in my epilogue.
Rawgrim wrote...
They were mentioning that it had "just ended" as in: its news to them. First time they heard it.
Tommyspa wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
They were mentioning that it had "just ended" as in: its news to them. First time they heard it.
So you've never refered to the end of a war as just ending within the space of days instead of a couple/few months?
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