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[HereticDante]

Someone was quite insistant he had stated this publically on another thread but i can't seem to find it anywhere. I was hoping one of you kind people could direct me to the article/interview/thread.

Much appreciated.


P.S
I am aware the part about being married to Anora relies on the presumption Anora is not barren.

[Emzamination]

The only kid coming out of Warden/Alistair/Anora equation seems to be morrigan's child, which is downright disturbing.I don't want some other woman being a surrogate mother to my warden's husband.

Modifié par Emzamination, 18 octobre 2012 - 05:41 .

[Foolsfolly]

I don't know.

I like to hope that it was Cailan shooting blanks and not Anora. That way the Alistair/Anora marriage I somewhat enjoy can produce another child of the Therin bloodline.

[ledod]

Okay, real talk moment: is OGB canon?

[Monica21]

The only thing I've ever read is the mention of how difficult it is for one Grey Warden to produce a child, in terms of Alistair/Anora, and that two Wardens, in terms of Alistair/Warden, would be damn near impossible.

[Blessed Silence]

I thought the blood and ritual made Grey Wardens sterile? *scratches head*

[Emzamination]

ledod wrote...

Okay, real talk moment: is OGB canon?

No

[Stippling]

ledod wrote...

Okay, real talk moment: is OGB canon?

No, it's been stated.

[Foolsfolly]

ledod wrote...

Okay, real talk moment: is OGB canon?

Only if you import it.

[ledod]

Blessed Silence wrote...

I thought the blood and ritual made Grey Wardens sterile? *scratches head*

Maybe Morrigan has a super womb

[Robhuzz]

ledod wrote...

Okay, real talk moment: is OGB canon?

David Gaider explicitly stated: No.

Whether he was telling the truth, maybe...

[unbentbuzzkill]

@jedod

yes, no, maybe?

[CrystalXPredator]

I would be happy, if Anora get a child from me too.
Don't care about Morrigan, two girl's better than one. *don't hate me for that*

[ShimmeringDjinn]

All I've managed to find is this.
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/47/index/455504/2

[HereticDante]

Yes that's the original thread the person was quoting. He states pretty clearly that an Alistair/Hero(ine) of Ferelden marriage would not produce any heirs, but i can't find anywhere in which he says that an Alistair/Anora marriage wouldn't*

*Again, bearing in mind the presumption she is not infertile

[King Cousland]

HereticDante wrote...

Yes that's the original thread the person was quoting. He states pretty clearly that an Alistair/Hero(ine) of Ferelden marriage would not produce any heirs, but i can't find anywhere in which he says that an Alistair/Anora marriage wouldn't*

*Again, bearing in mind the presumption she is not infertile

Given his post in the linked thread, it's logical to say that Alistair and Anora would be able to have children (albeit with some difficulty). If - as you say- she isn't infertile, I don't see any reason why it'd be impossible. 

[HereticDante]

Modifié par HereticDante, 18 octobre 2012 - 06:23 .

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Blessed Silence wrote...

I thought the blood and ritual made Grey Wardens sterile? *scratches head*

No, it only makes it harder to have children with a non-warden mate and next to impossible with two wardens together.

Beside if Fiona got away with it, so can bloody anybody.

[Palipride47]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Blessed Silence wrote...

I thought the blood and ritual made Grey Wardens sterile? *scratches head*

No, it only makes it harder to have children with a non-warden mate and next to impossible with two wardens together.

Beside if Fiona got away with it, so can bloody anybody.

And Morrigan basically ensured successful impregnation by Alistair (or Loghain, but, ick- well, all ick) using blood magic or the not-demon-based variety, so it seems you could make it a non issue. Although I doubt the Warden and Alistair would go trying to contact Morrigan so she can have a Theirin baby. 

Alothought that might be why my Queen Warden disappeared.....

Edit: totally meant Alistair.....

Modifié par Palipride47, 20 octobre 2012 - 04:16 .

[Megami Nekohime]

I don't see why it would be impossible. Morrigan uses a blood magic ritual. Thus, using a blood magic ritual on the warden or Anora should work as well. The warden could be a blood mage, or Jowan could help them. There are plenty of malificar to find for help.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

ledod wrote...

Okay, real talk moment: is OGB canon?

Nothing is official canon in the first game beyond Cailin's death at Ostagar, the Blight happening, and the archdemon being defeated thus ending the Blight. So many things are left to player choice that they can't be considered canon.

David Gaider has said himself that events in his books and comics are based on his own personal canon which are adapted from one of his playthroughs. So no, Alistair being King is only canon in Gaider's books and to those players who made him king.

That means the OGB, unless BioWare decides to force the child to exist in a future game no matter what, isn't canon.

[Darth Krytie]

King Cousland wrote...

HereticDante wrote...

Yes that's the original thread the person was quoting. He states pretty clearly that an Alistair/Hero(ine) of Ferelden marriage would not produce any heirs, but i can't find anywhere in which he says that an Alistair/Anora marriage wouldn't*

*Again, bearing in mind the presumption she is not infertile

Given his post in the linked thread, it's logical to say that Alistair and Anora would be able to have children (albeit with some difficulty). If - as you say- she isn't infertile, I don't see any reason why it'd be impossible. 

Wasn't the whole thing with Return To Ostagar hinting at the fact that she was infertile though? And that's why King Calian was flirting with Empress Celine?

[Gamer Ftw]

Gaider said the two wardens {Alistair and the female warden] would never have kids.
And It's both hilarious and awesome.
Let the tears of the fangirls flow.
mwahahaha!
With Anora it would be improbable,even if Alistair could bring himself to sleep with his enemy's daughter and she let him the chances are still slim.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 07 février 2013 - 08:30 .

[TobiTobsen]

Darth Krytie wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

HereticDante wrote...

Yes that's the original thread the person was quoting. He states pretty clearly that an Alistair/Hero(ine) of Ferelden marriage would not produce any heirs, but i can't find anywhere in which he says that an Alistair/Anora marriage wouldn't*

*Again, bearing in mind the presumption she is not infertile

Given his post in the linked thread, it's logical to say that Alistair and Anora would be able to have children (albeit with some difficulty). If - as you say- she isn't infertile, I don't see any reason why it'd be impossible. 

Wasn't the whole thing with Return To Ostagar hinting at the fact that she was infertile though? And that's why King Calian was flirting with Empress Celine?

It was more like Eamon and Cailan going all "an impotent Theirin? Hahaha! That can't be! It has to be his lowborn Queen! Quick, make a move on the Empress!"

AFAIK it was never established who was the problem.

[Kulyok]

No, I searched and searched and never found a developer's clear opinion on "No kids for Alistair except OGB".

I suspect, though, that they made the succession uncertain deliberately: a Warden king and a possibly infertile queen(either rules alone or is possibly married to a Warden).

Further proof is in Alistair's cameo in DA2: if Warden is his mistress and Anora is his wife, he says "Better not let the queen know(that he meets the Warden)", but if Warden is his mistress and Anora ISN'T his wife, he doesn't say that, which possibly means that six years later, he STILL hasn't married. Which means that the taint in him is quite far advanced and since he doesn't have a wife, it means... probably no kids, yeah.