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[Sister Goldring]

I haven't read anything that stated child wise it was OGB or bust for Alistair either. I think the implication was rather that he could (with difficulty) produce an heir with a non-warden.

I really liked that complication in the Alistair/Cousland romance it made the whole marriage thing so much more weighty in a personal happiness versus public good kind of way.

[Wolfva2]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

Gaider said the two wardens {Alistair and the female warden] would never have kids.
And It's both hilarious and awesome.
Let the tears of the fangirls flow.
mwahahaha!
With Anora it would be improbable,even if Alistair could bring himself to sleep with his enemy's daughter and she let him the chances are still slim.

Yeahhhh, right.  All it takes is for Anora to slink up to Alistair in a wispy negligee, look at him with smoldering eyes, crook her little finger at him and BAM!  All blood will flow away from his brain, his cognitive abilities (not the strongest to begin with) will cease, and he'll be rutting like a dog.  And any other position she likes.  He IS, after all, a man. 

[Estelindis]

The only reference I have seen to this is here, at the bottom of page one of this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/14280180/1

Discussion of the topic then follows. However, this still does not link to the supposed original post from David Gaider.

Modifié par Estelindis, 07 février 2013 - 10:49 .

[Big I]

Does it matter? Don't the latest comics establish that there's a long lost paternal relative of Alistair's still alive?

[Gamer Ftw]

Wolfva2 wrote...

Gamer Ftw wrote...

Gaider said the two wardens {Alistair and the female warden] would never have kids.
And It's both hilarious and awesome.
Let the tears of the fangirls flow.
mwahahaha!
With Anora it would be improbable,even if Alistair could bring himself to sleep with his enemy's daughter and she let him the chances are still slim.

Yeahhhh, right.  All it takes is for Anora to slink up to Alistair in a wispy negligee, look at him with smoldering eyes, crook her little finger at him and BAM!  All blood will flow away from his brain, his cognitive abilities (not the strongest to begin with) will cease, and he'll be rutting like a dog.  And any other position she likes.  He IS, after all, a man. 

Seems like a boy to me.
But she's an ice queen,with a daddy obsession.
So even if he wanted to he might not get any.
And there is no way Alistair has the courage to come on to her.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 07 février 2013 - 11:52 .

[rolson00]

HereticDante wrote...

Someone was quite insistant he had stated this publically on another thread but i can't seem to find it anywhere. I was hoping one of you kind people could direct me to the article/interview/thread.

Much appreciated.


P.S
I am aware the part about being married to Anora relies on the presumption Anora is not barren.

 its not his call, he can write that into da3 script if he wants, but i think the other writers have to agree not to mention devs what Devs say in threads or interviews are never final plus isn't alistair Biowares favourite anyway? I'm hoping that the Team make a DA game where you play his son that would be awesomo! 

[Gamer Ftw]

Which son?
The OGb or regular?

[Navasha]

Pretty sure it was stated that Grey Wardens are sterile. The taint in their blood causes soulless babies, hence they would be stillborn. Morrigan used some ritual to attract the fleeing Old God soul to inhabit the empty vessel in her womb.

So, yeah... no children for Grey Wardens unless they find some other way to get it a soul.

[cleosilver]

There's always the faked pregnancy and secretly adopted baby.

[Estelindis]

No, Grey Wardens aren't individually sterile, just not very likely to conceive. DG said that two GWs couldn't have a child together, but one Warden could have a child with someone else. Indeed, this happens in one of the novels.

Modifié par Estelindis, 07 février 2013 - 12:10 .

[Gamer Ftw]

cleosilver wrote...

There's always the faked pregnancy and secretly adopted baby.

Or sham royal marriage and secret zevran baby.

[Harle Cerulean]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

cleosilver wrote...

There's always the faked pregnancy and secretly adopted baby.

Or sham royal marriage and secret zevran baby.

This may in fact be exactly what my lady Cousland does...   I mean, don't get me wrong, she LIKES Alistair, she wouldn't have married him if he wasn't her best friend and needed her support and the added legitimacy of the second-most-noble bloodline in Ferelden next to the royal line being used to prop up his only half-noble heritage... but Zevran's the one she's in love with, and if she gets pregnant, it'll be by him.  They certainly try hard enough!

So, you know.  It's a good thing she's got skin about his tone, and he's blonde like the Theirins!

[Daralii]

Estelindis wrote...

No, Grey Wardens aren't individually sterile, just not very likely to conceive. DG said that two GWs couldn't have a child together, but one Warden could have a child with someone else. Indeed, this happens in one of the novels.

Granted, Eamon's letters in Return to Ostagar make it sound like either Cailan or Anora were pretty infertile. Time will tell which one, I guess.

Alistair's probably got another ten, fifteen years before the Calling takes him; things will get interesting if they don't have an heir by that point.

[Tootles FTW]

I would be quite content if my Warden and her hubby Alistair never had children.
Children =/= instant happy ending.

[Herr Uhl]

Daralii wrote...

Granted, Eamon's letters in Return to Ostagar make it sound like either Cailan or Anora were pretty infertile. Time will tell which one, I guess.

Why not both?

[Gamer Ftw]

Harle Cerulean wrote...

Gamer Ftw wrote...

cleosilver wrote...

There's always the faked pregnancy and secretly adopted baby.

Or sham royal marriage and secret zevran baby.

This may in fact be exactly what my lady Cousland does...   I mean, don't get me wrong, she LIKES Alistair, she wouldn't have married him if he wasn't her best friend and needed her support and the added legitimacy of the second-most-noble bloodline in Ferelden next to the royal line being used to prop up his only half-noble heritage... but Zevran's the one she's in love with, and if she gets pregnant, it'll be by him.  They certainly try hard enough!

So, you know.  It's a good thing she's got skin about his tone, and he's blonde like the Theirins!

All of my female friends who play Couslands [and some of my male friends who play female Couslands] do that lol.
Half elves look human anyway.
Dragon age has a suck it up,there are no real happy endings sort of attitude I quite enjoy.
Zevran's advice about living for now cause life is brutal [not a direct quote] really makes sense in Thedas.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 07 février 2013 - 02:34 .

[EChatty]

Sister Goldring wrote...

I haven't read anything that stated child wise it was OGB or bust for Alistair either. I think the implication was rather that he could (with difficulty) produce an heir with a non-warden.

I really liked that complication in the Alistair/Cousland romance it made the whole marriage thing so much more
weighty in a personal happiness versus public good kind of way.

http://social.biowar...504&lf=8#455902

David Gaider answers some questions about Warden/Warden fertility and Warden/Normal (eg, Anora) fertility in being able to conceive.

Two Wardens will never conceive normally, he states that is explicitely canon. A Warden and an untainted mate can, though it would be difficult.

It doesn't say that Alistair never has kids besides the OGB (if the Warden convinces him to sleep with Morrigan), doesn't say he does either, and I have no idea how to search for the exact post where DG supposedly states on the record that Alistair doesn't have any children.

Given everything he says, I'd conclude that no, he doesn't, but I'm not a dev.

Modifié par EChatty, 07 février 2013 - 02:53 .

[LilyasAvalon]

ledod wrote...

Okay, real talk moment: is OGB canon?

No, not YET.

I do expect SOME sort of OGB to come outta this though.

Also, I very highly doubt that any children could be achieved, by either Anora or Alistair. Getting pregnant is actually a lot harder than most people would like to believe, when you've got Darkspawn taint on top of that.... Heck, the only reason OGB came into being was probably because Morrigan knew what spells to cast...

[syllogi]

There's always Fiona's kid, assuming that Alistair isn't him. I'm not convinced that a Theirin on the throne of Ferelden is that special, since Anora seems to do fine alone, but if it is a thing, there's still a spare heir floating around.

[Rpgfantasyplayer]

syllogi wrote...

There's always Fiona's kid, assuming that Alistair isn't him. I'm not convinced that a Theirin on the throne of Ferelden is that special, since Anora seems to do fine alone, but if it is a thing, there's still a spare heir floating around.

I agree with this.  My question has always been that if Alistair is Fiona's kid, that makes him part elf so how would he be able to be king?  Unless they are going on the fact that no one know's who his mother is other than a select few.  But if that is the case, I think Loghain would know and  would do everything in his power to stop him from being able to be king.  And by this I mean outing him at the Landsmeet.  But to get back to the kid I don't think it has ever been stated that he wouldn't have other kids, but then again I don't think it has ever been stated that he would.

[kalasaurus]

Tootles FTW wrote...

I would be quite content if my Warden and her hubby Alistair never had children.
Children =/= instant happy ending.

Ditto.  The Wardens are their family now.

I just keep Alistair (unhardened) as a Warden and Anora on the throne- everyone's happy but Arl Eamon and no one had to worry about producing heirs.  I'm sure the only one harassing Anora to get married is Eamon too.

[Patchwork]

I'm pretty sure any and all combinations wont result in a child so that by the time the ruler of Ferelden is relevant again the game wont have to conform to the Origins choice.

[Solmanian]

Blessed Silence wrote...

I thought the blood and ritual made Grey Wardens sterile? *scratches head*

You're thinking of witchers. And I got the impression that when there isn't a blight around, discipline is much more lax, and less enforcing the whole "don't get marry, can't own property" rule.

[CuriousArtemis]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

Dragon age has a suck it up,there are no real happy endings sort of attitude I quite enjoy.

Not true! I thought my DA:O ending was very happy!

Zevran and the Warden ran away together. 
Loghain killed and Anora imprisoned.
Alistair was made king!

DA2 even had a good ending IMO; Hawke and Fenris disappeared together. And they lived happily ever after as far as I'm concerned lol

[adam32867]

motomotogirl wrote...

Gamer Ftw wrote...

Dragon age has a suck it up,there are no real happy endings sort of attitude I quite enjoy.

Not true! I thought my DA:O ending was very happy!

Zevran and the Warden ran away together. 
Loghain killed and Anora imprisoned.
Alistair was made king!

DA2 even had a good ending IMO; Hawke and Fenris disappeared together. And they lived happily ever after as far as I'm concerned lol

my Da:O ending was happy as well
logain dead
alister married to anora (guess things could be a little better for alister but its not so bad)
my warden traveled to Par Volan (i think thats the spelling) with sten and zevron, then tracked down his LI Morrigan in witch hunt and went throught the mirror with her.