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[Fjortis]

Ah_gho wrote...

haHA! I know this. Solo-ing bronzes with cerberus, i just hope not get the disable 4 devices on wave 6. Nearly impossible. They are easy to kill, but the next one arrives to the location really quick to disrupt your hack.

^ This, is what I think the point op was trying to make. 
They do not take cover and will bum rush you before you know it. Enemies will continue to spawn untl you complete the objective so there's really no way around it. 

I agree, if anything fix them so they actually take cover once in a while. 

[Terry Yaki]

LOL! Dragoons are easy-pie on BRONZE! As long as you keep your distance, you can take them out either solo or with another person helping you. Yeah, I've gotten hit a few times by the Dragoons but they only managed to chop down a chunk of my shields and I was able to unload some rounds into them.

[Methew]

Fix implies that something is broken.

Broken implies that something either isn't working or isn't working as intended.

Dragoons are working and working as intended. Ergo, there's nothing to fix about Dragoons.

[darkpassenger2342]

the scorpion destroys dragoons and blows them up like husks.... they run right into the bombs, you can spray a few at the floor and start the objective and that will hold them off a sec.

on bronze even a scorpion I would work wonders.

IMo its the best sidearm in the game.

[neteng101]

Methew wrote...

Dragoons are working and working as intended. Ergo, there's nothing to fix about Dragoons.

Another definition of fix would be to neuter, or NERF the stupid Dragoons.  And working as intended with bad design requires a redesign/fix of the design.

Phantoms take cover and do their denial thing.  If Phantoms came at you at Dragoon speeds, and never took cover or stood still, everyone would really be complaining.

Dragoons are the DUMBEST MOST BROKEN enemy in this whole game.  They make Geth look classy!

[Kalas Magnus]

neteng101 wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Yeah if you bring acolyte, gps, or scorpion. otherwise they are really annoying.

The dragoons walk right in front of my shotgun. Easy headshot.

Scorpion's too slow unless you get them early enough, and Acolyte is slow to hurt armor.  Found the Piranha was some form of sweet revenge vs. Dragoons though.

A good dodge away like the Turian jetpack is the best way to stay safe, but not all kits are nearly so lucky.

Even with ways to deal somewhat with them, they are the stupiedest most OP enemy on the Cerberus side by a longshot!  Phantoms are pushovers.

I listed anti-phantom weapons.
phantoms are pushovers?  ha. 

Dragoons have no instant kill. My kroguard-reager would easily deal with 5 of those dragoons. 
Give it time. You'll get used to them and they will be easy points like guardians are.

Modifié par Kalas321, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:16 .

[dumdum2]

This is a co-op game and was never meant to be solo'd in the first place, and I say that the Dragoons are exactly what Cerberus was lacking.

[Eelectrica]

Leave dragoon, get rid of 4 devices. Or make them resumable.

[Imp of the Perverse]

My only real complaint about them is that too many of their animations make them immune to stagger, and they're always doing them, never standing still. It means my usual "fire prox mine at my feet, run away" doesn't work.

[neteng101]

Kalas321 wrote...

Dragoons have no instant kill. My kroguard-reager would easily deal with 5 of those dragoons. 
Give it time. You'll get used to them and they will be easy points like guardians are.

No - they are cheap idiotic enemies...  Kroguard reegar is how we deal with CHEAP Geth to begin with.  That it takes a Kroguard with Reegar for you to deal with them says how UTTERLY CHEAP Dragoons are.

They are by far the WORSE enemy in the game by a longshot.

Collectors are tough, but not cheap.  Don't have a problem with Collectors.  Dragoons though?  Utterly beyond stupid and dumb.  I wouldn't mind if Bioware DELETED them from the game totally.  Easy as Guardians?  You must be smoking something!

[Kalas Magnus]

Banshee slayer123 wrote...

Ok for the record i was using a lvl 20 ghost on bronze solo and for those who are flaming me for failing bronze because of a broken enemy plz just shut up idc what you say about me.

lv20 ghost and you are whining... 

Spec for duration. 

Modifié par Kalas321, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:22 .

[Banshee slayer123]

Kalas321 wrote...

Banshee slayer123 wrote...

Ok for the record i was using a lvl 20 ghost on bronze solo and for those who are flaming me for failing bronze because of a broken enemy plz just shut up idc what you say about me.

lv20 ghost and you are whining... 

Spec for duration. 

Lvl 20, lvl 1 it dosent matter what level u are the dragoons are dumb and charge at anything, heck i bet they would charge a banshee, although that will never happen.

[Kalas Magnus]

Banshee slayer123 wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Banshee slayer123 wrote...

Ok for the record i was using a lvl 20 ghost on bronze solo and for those who are flaming me for failing bronze because of a broken enemy plz just shut up idc what you say about me.

lv20 ghost and you are whining... 

Spec for duration. 

Lvl 20, lvl 1 it dosent matter what level u are the dragoons are dumb and charge at anything, heck i bet they would charge a banshee, although that will never happen.

He is the best character in the game. He has 4k shields on demand. I doubt anything on bronze can get close to killing him if played right. 

Had you said any other character I might have sympathized with you.

Modifié par Kalas321, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:37 .

[darkpassenger2342]

Kalas321 wrote...

He is the best character in the game. He has 4k shields on demand. I doubt anything on bronze can get close to killing him if played right. 

[neteng101]

Kalas321 wrote...

He is the best character in the game. He has 4k shields on demand. I doubt anything on bronze can get close to killing him if played right.

All that will not matter if you can't cap objectives because you're constantly being interrupted.

Dragoons are just STUPID because they mad rush you, that's really the problem here.  Run away, stay alive, but you won't finish the game because of them.

And yes - 1 man alive, cloak is pretty much useless too.  Devs already said they can see through your cloak if you're alone.

Modifié par neteng101, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:36 .

[DullahansXMark]

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

Banshee slayer123 wrote...

Banshee slayer123 wrote...

 I was doing a bronze just now and failed the hack four ****s thing because they wouldent stop spawning!!! I tried going to the other side of map but there ability to use sonic ****ing speed prevents me to hack the god damn objective!!!! Bioware either remove them or nerf there speed, whip spam and ****ing spawn time!!! Thank you very ****ing much!

[darkpassenger2342]

neteng101 wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

He is the best character in the game. He has 4k shields on demand. I doubt anything on bronze can get close to killing him if played right.

All that will not matter if you can't cap objectives because you're constantly being interrupted.

Dragoons are just STUPID because they mad rush you, that's really the problem here.  Run away, stay alive, but you won't finish the game because of them.

if someone fails bronze objectives over and over for the same reasons, with the ghost,  THEY are the the one being stupid. bring a stagger weapon, jeez.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:37 .

[DullahansXMark]

Less need to spawn per wave, and they need to move slower. Other than that I love them. They're like, superpowered cannon fodder.

[Yate]

dodge and headshot, people.

solo pizza I can understand the problem, but hack? lolno

[neteng101]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

if someone fails bronze objectives over and over for the same reasons, with the ghost,  THEY are the the one being stupid. bring a stagger weapon, jeez.

No you're the one being really stupid for saying that.  Name me a weapon that can stagger long enough for you to cap an objective?

Maybe Statis might work, but of course Dragoons have to be Statis proof too.

[darkpassenger2342]

neteng101 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

if someone fails bronze objectives over and over for the same reasons, with the ghost,  THEY are the the one being stupid. bring a stagger weapon, jeez.

No you're the one being really stupid for saying that.  Name me a weapon that can stagger long enough for you to cap an objective?

Maybe Statis might work, but of course Dragoons have to be Statis proof too.

i wont even bother calling you anything in return.
the scorpion. the falcon.
we are talking about BRONZE cerberus and youre whining.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:42 .

[Operator m1]

Ok dragoons are stupid, but bronze... What's terrible is the 4 hack on gold wave 6. That is retarded with dragoons. Yeah I know how to fight a dragoon. Their spawn numbers and speed after silver is just really stupid. Put that together, and it just becomes pointless to kill them on objective waves since they replace themselves in the fray damn near instantly.

Modifié par Operator m1, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:43 .

[neteng101]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

i wont even bother calling you anything in return.
the scorpion. the falcon.

Yeah right.  The scorpion/falcon doesn't stagger them long enough for you to cap objectives.

You taking me for a fool?

Modifié par neteng101, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:43 .

[darkpassenger2342]

neteng101 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

i wont even bother calling you anything in return.
the scorpion. the falcon.

Yeah right.  The scorpion doesn't stagger them long enough for you to cap objectives.

You taking me for a fool?

in the time it takes the scorpion bombs  to blow up and kill the dragoons, if you cant cap the objective before more arrive, WITH TACTICAL CLOAK,  on bronze difficulty, with a level 20 ghost, just eject this game from your platform and take it back.
and yes, you are a fool if you think otherwise.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:45 .

[Sopec]

It's not about how easy or hard dragoon is, or how much shields you have.
He will spawn right away, arrive to your location and disrupt you from disabling the device.

Modifié par Ah_gho, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:48 .