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[xero_sensi]

Guglio08 wrote...

It's like barely anyone actual read the post...

He's not complaining about the Dragoons in general. He's complaining that the Dragoons make the enable / disable 4 nodes objective impossible if you're alone (solo or the rest of the team is dead).

This is because, unlike the rest of Cerberus, whom you can lure to one side of the map and then double back for the objective, the Dragoons will spawn, somehow immediately determine your location, then sprint at inhuman speeds to you. Infinitely. The objective requires 10 seconds per node, making it extremely easy to be interrupted by a Smash. And if you're alone for whatever reason, Tactical Cloak does nothing, because they know exactly where you are.

It's absurd.

faster then a Drell Vanguard on a Adren Mod 3? lol now thats some speed

[WandererRTF]

Problem that i have seen with 4 devices goals and Dragoons is that the normal tactic of kiting the enemies away does not (always) work simply because they zoom across the maps so swiftly. Add their attack and its effects to the mix - since you can't evade nor is it helpful to be interrupted on devices.

OTOH TC does work even on solo missions, you just need to keep your distance and actually run behind cover as well instead of just either standing still or running past the enemies. And yes, decoys, turrets, drones all are crucial when having Dragoons on your a** when dealing with objectives.

[MaxShine]

corporal doody wrote...

100RenegadePoints wrote...

I love these tips people who do not read what the OP is complaining about. The OP has no problem killing a Dragoon, that is not what he is complaining about. Dragoons can be killed easily. The problem is when your team goes down on wave 6 and only one player is left to do the 4devices it can be impossible if the map is too small. You cannot disable the device before the next Dragoon arrives, the old trick of drawing them to the other side of the map does not work if the map is too small.

YO....then hows about KITE UM away!!!   IF you are doing an objective and see them...and they are standing there and you do nothing...gratz on your death.

they dont spawn non-stop like some of the other baddies. kite um and kill um....then run back to the objective. by the time it is done they should be showing up. No map is so small that you wont have time if you ran around the entire map.  SHOULD BE ALOT MORE HELPFUL IF YOU HAVE TC.

Finally someone who understands...

Modifié par 100RenegadePoints, 19 octobre 2012 - 07:27 .

[kiku87]

Dude, Vorcha Soldier specced with armor damage Flamer... Watch them burn... 

Last night killed 4 dragoons on silver with one burst of my Flamer... 

Modifié par kiku87, 19 octobre 2012 - 07:32 .

[nicethugbert]

Dragoons need rehab.

[Banshee slayer123]

Ok so some people are not understanding my situation. im doing solo bronze for solo mastery and i use my turian ghost lvl 20, at the moment im using various assault rifles because of AF mastery, im on glacier and im doind 4 node objectives most of the time so there hopefully people understand.

[corporal doody]

Banshee slayer123 wrote...

Ok so some people are not understanding my situation. im doing solo bronze for solo mastery and i use my turian ghost lvl 20, at the moment im using various assault rifles because of AF mastery, im on glacier and im doind 4 node objectives most of the time so there hopefully people understand.

huh. sounds like you arent prepared for it then. sooooooo if you dont want to carry the scorpion (BEST WEAPON TO USE against them imho).....THAN set up your ghost for CHAIN OVERLOAD....with neural shock! it stops them dead in their tracks... KILL UM...KITE UM.....RUn in a circle..

LVL 20 Ghost on Bronze...and this thread is what comes up?
 
THIS is a BS whine thread.

Modifié par corporal doody, 19 octobre 2012 - 07:42 .

[Aetika]

Yesterday I started silver game, thinking I will make first or second wave alone until someone joins. I was playing SI and after few rage moments I just decided to bleed on wave five(no one joined). Dragoons completely ignored my TC. Completely. I know that TC is not always working if you are only player in game, but this was absurd. I was basically sprinting around the map, trying to put some distance between me and them to line up my shot and everytime I turned around to do so, I had like 2 seconds before they were in my face again. Cloak or not, they were running after me like maniacs.
It was horrible

[Zorinho20_CRO]

Dragoons speed should be reduced.

[Guglio08]

corporal doody wrote...

So make another thread and whine about it.

cuz im guessing KILLING them quickly SO you can do the objective ISNT GOOD ENUFF.  


you know what..THIS THREAD ISNT ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF COMPLETING OBJECTIVES WHILST DRAGOONS RUN AMOK.....

THIS IS ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU DISLIKE THE DRAGOONs and the new challenges they represent...and the inability to cope with those challenges.

Your objectionable use of grammar is both hilarious and depressing.

I would recommend that you refrain yourself from inferring information from a post that may not actually contain said information.

I would also recommend you go back to Grade Four; evidentally, you learned nothing.

[VerySeed]

neteng101 wrote...

And if you can't dodge ie. no mobility FUUUUUUUUUU Dragoons!

They are the most stupidest thing in the game at this point.

My destroyer can literally walk out of range of their attack with no adrenaline mods.

[darkpassenger2342]

Guglio08 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

So make another thread and whine about it.

cuz im guessing KILLING them quickly SO you can do the objective ISNT GOOD ENUFF.  


you know what..THIS THREAD ISNT ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF COMPLETING OBJECTIVES WHILST DRAGOONS RUN AMOK.....

THIS IS ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU DISLIKE THE DRAGOONs and the new challenges they represent...and the inability to cope with those challenges.

Your objectionable use of grammar is both hilarious and depressing.

I would recommend that you refrain yourself from inferring information from a post that may not actually contain said information.

I would also recommend you go back to Grade Four; evidentally, you learned nothing.

 no one cares what you think, mr english teacher, this is a message board forum not an email to your boss.

your amazing literary skills have impressed me, but your unnecessary criticisms have not.

What makes you think abbreviated slang is unacceptable on a public forum?
 are you new to the internet?

what an ****hole you are.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 19 octobre 2012 - 07:59 .

[VerySeed]

corporal doody wrote...

Banshee slayer123 wrote...

Ok so some people are not understanding my situation. im doing solo bronze for solo mastery and i use my turian ghost lvl 20, at the moment im using various assault rifles because of AF mastery, im on glacier and im doind 4 node objectives most of the time so there hopefully people understand.

huh. sounds like you arent prepared for it then. sooooooo if you dont want to carry the scorpion (BEST WEAPON TO USE against them imho).....THAN set up your ghost for CHAIN OVERLOAD....with neural shock! it stops them dead in their tracks... KILL UM...KITE UM.....RUn in a circle..

LVL 20 Ghost on Bronze...and this thread is what comes up?
 
THIS is a BS whine thread.

Can't spell BSN without BS. 

[nicethugbert]

I just failed wave 6 objective in bronze because the stupid draggons kept spawning endlessly and busting me out of the 4 little upload objectives. As soon as I killed one, another spawned 20 feet away.  Bronze used to have a wave budget for high end units like atlases and phantoms even on objective rounds. Goes to show that BW thinks Dragoons are on par with Centurians whe nthey are actually more on the same level as phantoms. Does anybody play test this game at BW?

Modifié par nicethugbert, 19 octobre 2012 - 08:09 .

[HALODAN12]

fire kills them vorcha flamer or flame grenades any character with them kills them easy

[ZoM_Head]

Pyth the Bull wrote...

Sure, blame it on the Dragoons.

They move really really fast, make no noise and take players out of cover.

So, you have phantoms that palm blast/snipe you from a distance, but at least they take cover, giving you a moment to asses the situation. The dragoons just do not give a damn, rush you and just overwhelm you.

On Gold, the dragoons are an issue, especially at uploading/hacking, since they will just continue respawning till the objective is done.

Imagine 4 dragoons and 3 phantoms, along with 2 atlases and xxxxx centurians, engineers and turrents infinitly spawning near the zone and you want to do it asap for maximum credits.

Like Geth bombers, they will just rush in and overwhelm the squad. Missiles are kind of pointless, since they will just respawn.

With randoms, it is usually a nightmare.

It is ovbious that bioware added them including armor to make farming cerberus on gold/plat harder, like those geth bombers and new FBW and FBG redesign maps.

Too much if you ask me, cerbies and geth are just not fun at all.

Modifié par ZoM_Head, 19 octobre 2012 - 08:25 .

[ZoM_Head]

Aetika wrote...

Yesterday I started silver game, thinking I will make first or second wave alone until someone joins. I was playing SI and after few rage moments I just decided to bleed on wave five(no one joined). Dragoons completely ignored my TC. Completely. I know that TC is not always working if you are only player in game, but this was absurd. I was basically sprinting around the map, trying to put some distance between me and them to line up my shot and everytime I turned around to do so, I had like 2 seconds before they were in my face again. Cloak or not, they were running after me like maniacs.
It was horrible

TC is still bugged. TC from a distance, and the bosses will charge/fire at you for no reason.

And that Atlas that now causes damager over time, another indication that bioware was listening to the players complain about farming credits and "tweaked" the atlas for more speed and damager over time.

[MaxShine]

Guglio08 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

So make another thread and whine about it.

cuz im guessing KILLING them quickly SO you can do the objective ISNT GOOD ENUFF.  


you know what..THIS THREAD ISNT ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF COMPLETING OBJECTIVES WHILST DRAGOONS RUN AMOK.....

THIS IS ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU DISLIKE THE DRAGOONs and the new challenges they represent...and the inability to cope with those challenges.

Your objectionable use of grammar is both hilarious and depressing.

I would recommend that you refrain yourself from inferring information from a post that may not actually contain said information.

I would also recommend you go back to Grade Four; evidentally, you learned nothing.

You realize that this guy is joking, yes?

[Guglio08]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

 no one cares what you think, mr english teacher, this is a message board forum not an email to your boss.

your amazing literary skills have impressed me, but your unnecessary criticisms have not.

What makes you think abbreviated slang is unacceptable on a public forum?
 are you new to the internet?

what an ****hole you are.

Are you new to the English language?

There's a difference between "slang" and incomprehensibility. I have prefer to have conversations with adults, and preferrably those who do not accuse me of "whining" when my post was simply highlighting that Dragoons run at inhuman speeds, and have inhuman detection abilities.

Modifié par Guglio08, 19 octobre 2012 - 08:33 .

[darkpassenger2342]

Guglio08 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

 no one cares what you think, mr english teacher, this is a message board forum not an email to your boss.

your amazing literary skills have impressed me, but your unnecessary criticisms have not.

What makes you think abbreviated slang is unacceptable on a public forum?
 are you new to the internet?

what an ****hole you are.

Are you new to the English language?

There's a difference between "slang" and incomprehensibility. I have prefer to have conversations with adults, and preferrably those who do not accuse me of "whining" when my post was simply highlighting that Dragoons run at inhuman speeds, and have inhuman detection abilities.

Also, reported.

report away, chief.

[Titus Thongger]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Guglio08 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

 no one cares what you think, mr english teacher, this is a message board forum not an email to your boss.

your amazing literary skills have impressed me, but your unnecessary criticisms have not.

What makes you think abbreviated slang is unacceptable on a public forum?
 are you new to the internet?

what an ****hole you are.

Are you new to the English language?

There's a difference between "slang" and incomprehensibility. I have prefer to have conversations with adults, and preferrably those who do not accuse me of "whining" when my post was simply highlighting that Dragoons run at inhuman speeds, and have inhuman detection abilities.

Also, reported.

report away, chief.

HIDE YO SLANG HIDE YO INTERNET-ABBREVIATIONS! THE GRAMMER HAMMERS ARE COMING

[Kroniic Fail]

Dragoons aren't broken. They are perfect the way they are. Not too strong, not too weak.

[corporal doody]

Titus Thongger wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Guglio08 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

 no one cares what you think, mr english teacher, this is a message board forum not an email to your boss.

your amazing literary skills have impressed me, but your unnecessary criticisms have not.

What makes you think abbreviated slang is unacceptable on a public forum?
 are you new to the internet?

what an ****hole you are.

Are you new to the English language?

There's a difference between "slang" and incomprehensibility. I have prefer to have conversations with adults, and preferrably those who do not accuse me of "whining" when my post was simply highlighting that Dragoons run at inhuman speeds, and have inhuman detection abilities.

Also, reported.

report away, chief.

HIDE YO SLANG HIDE YO INTERNET-ABBREVIATIONS! THE GRAMMER HAMMERS ARE COMING

waiting for the autotune remix!!

[Zorinho20_CRO]

100RenegadePoints wrote...

Guglio08 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

So make another thread and whine about it.

cuz im guessing KILLING them quickly SO you can do the objective ISNT GOOD ENUFF.  


you know what..THIS THREAD ISNT ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF COMPLETING OBJECTIVES WHILST DRAGOONS RUN AMOK.....

THIS IS ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU DISLIKE THE DRAGOONs and the new challenges they represent...and the inability to cope with those challenges.

Your objectionable use of grammar is both hilarious and depressing.

I would recommend that you refrain yourself from inferring information from a post that may not actually contain said information.

I would also recommend you go back to Grade Four; evidentally, you learned nothing.

You realize that this guy is joking, yes?

It seems,he doesn´t know Gavorn´s corporal´s tricks:D

[setrus86]

Well...if you used the ghost, why didn't you hit them with overload from cloak to stun them, then nail them with a hail of assault rifle fire? The Saber knocks them down pretty good. (they don't get stunned mid-attack, granted, you have to wait for it to finish.)