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JohnShepard12 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

I don't need to see Tali feeding him applesauce in a medical bay to know he survives, but all the same I wouldn't want to play another game with Shepard. Let 'em have their peace.

Honestly, given the divergent outcomes with up to four species going extinct in one playthrough (five counting the Reapers), I don't think a sequel is possible unless they make certain things canon - and who wants that?

. It's ok, BioWare will make Synthesis the canon ending, with Liara as the canon LI, and as for the species survival, it doesn't matter because we wil just bring them back, just like the Rachni.

And no doubt the canon will have Wrex dead because that was the most common choice, right?

. Yeah I never got that one

Modifié par Steelcan, 21 octobre 2012 - 10:49 .


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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

“There is one thing we are absolutely sure of – there will be no more Shepard, and this franchise is finished.”


That's all I saw.

Funny, I read the same thing! 

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AresKeith wrote...

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So you never say the rage in ME1 from the inventory and Mako, which are tow of the prime examples.  I'm pretty you didn't miss that like the rage in ME2 with the removal of 75% of the RPG elements, auto-dialoge, more action, mining probes, and the Mako being removed to name a few.


I didn't say there were, I said they wasn't as big as the one for ME3


Exactly, and they were all just game elements, BioWare can't make everyone happy. However, the 3rd one failed on plot. It was meant to be the 2nd one whose plot was fairly lackluster. The 3rd was meant to be epic. They tried to force it, it failed.

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Frankly, it doesn;t matter what they do with it because I won't be buying it. For me, Mass Effect died on the way to the beam and no amount of space magic or Lazarus project can bring that feeling back.

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Jvolikas wrote...

Frankly, it doesn;t matter what they do with it because I won't be buying it. For me, Mass Effect died on the way to the beam and no amount of space magic or Lazarus project can bring that feeling back.


But what if they... It doesn't matter what they do with it!

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The 'No Shep' comment will be the one promise BW actually keeps in regards to Mass Effect.

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Steelcan wrote...

JohnShepard12 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

I don't need to see Tali feeding him applesauce in a medical bay to know he survives, but all the same I wouldn't want to play another game with Shepard. Let 'em have their peace.

Honestly, given the divergent outcomes with up to four species going extinct in one playthrough (five counting the Reapers), I don't think a sequel is possible unless they make certain things canon - and who wants that?

. It's ok, BioWare will make Synthesis the canon ending, with Liara as the canon LI, and as for the species survival, it doesn't matter because we wil just bring them back, just like the Rachni.

And no doubt the canon will have Wrex dead because that was the most common choice, right?

. Yeah I never got that one

It "punishes" you for not importing - any character who can be executed in ME1, has been. Council's dead. You see a lot less content. Same with ME3 - Tali is exiled, and (I think) Legion is dead, making Quarian/Geth peace impossible. I think Wrex is still dead, too, right? But instead of being stuck with the opposite-gender VS you get to choose one. I've only ever imported, and I avoid Action Mode like the plague, so I'm not sure.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 22 octobre 2012 - 01:19 .


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liggy002 wrote...
  Everything that Bioware has said lately has made the fans angrier.  They really don't care about what their fans want.  If they did, then they would release an IT post ending DLC.


When did IT become popular?

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DeinonSlayer wrote...
It "punishes" you for not importing - any character who can be executed in ME1, has been. Council's dead. You see a lot less content. Same with ME3 - Tali is exiled, and (I think) Legion is dead, making Quarian/Geth peace impossible. I think Wrex is still dead, too, right? But instead of being stuck with the opposite-gender VS you get to choose one. I've only ever imported, and I avoid Action Mode like the plague, so I'm not sure.


Pretty much. Without a save anything you could have blown off in the earlier games was blown off. So Kirrahe is dead because you didn't do the Virmire sidequests, for instance.

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FirstBlood XL wrote...

The 'No Shep' comment will be the one promise BW actually keeps in regards to Mass Effect.


probably, you can't really trust what they say

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I think it would be cool to have an alien hero. Turian would be interesting since they opposed humanity early on. It would be interesting to have that opposing perspective from the first contact war.

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I personally want to be able to choose the species of my next character. But even if I'm forced to be a human, I'm glad it won't be Shepard.

His/Her journey is done. For better or worse, ME3 ended that adventure rather definitively. ME4 needs a new character for players to fall in love with, and show a new side of the universe if it wants my attention.

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I'm aprihensive about this new game. They tied EVERYTHING up to this point into the Reapers, and stopping them. A prequel seems pointless because it re-ignights the whole "Why do this if it doesnt' affect the ending of a story I already finished? Why would I do that?"
And building a game off one of the endings seems like dancing on a landmine. With all the conflict over that Bull****, making that continued from one or more of those endings could get messy quick.
I really, REALLY hate to say it, but I think the best option would have been for them to just stop at 3, before it turns into a "Final Fantasy" style franchise.

Modifié par silverexile17s, 23 octobre 2012 - 05:19 .


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if its a sequel then well most likely just play with the mkey people, pyjak people, and two headed cow-people. if salarians were salamanders to javiks cycle, then pyjacks are pyjackians in the next level.

its called evolution.

and then the leviathons show up in ships filled with water and the only way to beat them is to ask M Night Shamalan.

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I'm just going to point out everything wrong with this game, just to get it all out of the way.

Campaign
1. Quarians are a race of random people who have been photo-shopped by Bioware.
2. Mako is visible but not usable (really wanted to see if Alliance fixed Mako's tendency to bounce like a beach ball).
3. Poorly done side-quests or in this case "scan-quests" (In original Mass Effect you felt like a bad-**** and you didn't have to scan every system to find them).
4. Cameos that while fun at times www.youtube.com/watch most were really subtle or stupid.
5. Massive plot holes (Haestrom, Collectors return, permanency of Reaper control, etc)
6. 2 decent endings and 1 pointless ending *cough*synthesis*cough*
7. Leviathans don't do shiat!
8. Everyone has turned bisexual for no reason (they could have added a gay, straight, or bisexual section to the questioner).
9. Weird scene at the end with the old geezer and the kid that made no sense (made it seem like the guy made up the whole Mass Effect universe so he could tell his granddaughter a story).
10. No way to continue story forward. As Mordin said "Too many variables!"

Multiplayer
1. Excessively rude/racist community (can't play a game as a Drell without being called gay).
2. Basically just Firefight from Halo but with Mass Effect staplled to it.
3. Unlock system is like a fail version of Lost Planet 2's

Modifié par Owlman36, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:14 .


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silverexile17s wrote...

I'm aprihensive about this new game. They tied EVERYTHING up to this point into the Reapers, and stopping them. A prequel seems pointless because it re-ignights the whole "Why do this if it odesnt' affect the ending of a story I already finished? Why would I do that?"
And building a game off one of the endings seems like dancing on a landmine. With all the conflict over that Bull****, making that continued from one or more of those endings could get messy quick.
I really, REALLY hate to say it, but I think the best option would have been for them to just stop at 3, before it turns into a "Final Fantasy" style franchise.


iv'e mentioned this before and i see similar traits, i never thought id stop buying Final Fantasy's back in the day but after 9-10 the quality just dropped and the target audience switched to a pop culture  emo esque audience that just wasn't for me, i personally feel with DA2/ME3 the quality has definately dropped from an RPG aspect.......and the similarities between gears of war and ME3 are astounding when you look at things........i mean the first guy shepard meets in ME3 isnt someone familiar, its to force vega onto you,a soldier grunt type complete with dog tags hanging gears style, then there's the weapon that put down the reaper which is the hammer of dawn in gears, and the MP horde mode is damn right a gears mode.....all well and good and nothing against that but i dont think ME is my goto series anymore and definately not a must buy series anymore.....

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Toolbox 24 wrote...

Thought they already said the ME3 was the end of Shepard's story arc?


Yes. Repeatedly. Casey said it. Miek Gamble & Mac Walters have said it. Jessica and I have said it.

Commander Shepard's adventures took place in ME1-ME3 (and DLCs). We are working on another ME game, but it is not a Commander Shepard game.

We have no other details as to what the new ME game will be, who what where when, etc it will be. It will likely be over a year before we start talking about what the new game will be, but you're welcome to contribute what you would like to see in it until then.



:devil:


More Shepard would be good.

As Miri would say "He's hero a bloody ICON".
What's next nintendo kills of 
Image IPB

Modifié par FOX216BC, 22 octobre 2012 - 10:59 .


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Anderson dies in the end, make sherpard the new anderson, would get Me 4 if that was to work, be the mentor for who every james,ash,new person.

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As much as I enjoy the mass effect universe, im a bit apprehensive about a new ME game and how it would play out, especially if its a prequel.

A prequel, like the contact war, will have a hard time instilling a sense of urgency and excitement considering that we already know the general outcome and how the galaxy looks post war. So in my opinion a prequel seems like a very dull idea for a new ME game.
I prefer going in blind and the story seemingly evolving based on what i do, instead being negated to a "fly on the wall" in a story already set in stone.

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AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

So you never say the rage in ME1 from the inventory and Mako, which are tow of the prime examples.  I'm pretty you didn't miss that like the rage in ME2 with the removal of 75% of the RPG elements, auto-dialoge, more action, mining probes, and the Mako being removed to name a few.


I didn't say there were, I said they wasn't as big as the one for ME3

You didn't but those were bigger fish compared to what happened in ME3.

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liggy002 wrote...

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I dont know. I am just getting angrier after I read what Chris Priestly had said. I guess I have to find a way to get rid of my love towards ME games and move on other game.


Everything that Bioware has said lately has made the fans angrier.  They really don't care about what their fans want.  If they did, then they would release an IT post ending DLC.

Both of these are sad even when Bioware has created ME not the fans just like what happens in most mediums.

LilLino wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

WAAT?

Link pls?


http://www.gram.pl/n...cepcyjnych.html

It's Polish website, so you may not understand, it's from this guy's twitter though, they just collected the information he gathered on 
Edmonton Comic & Entertainment Expo . Says they are still working on it, but we'll see. We saw how 'promises' worked out 
https://twitter.com/Cameron__Lee

I'll beleive it when I see especially when it sounds more and more that DA3 will be coming out on Next Gen consoles. 

FlamingBoy wrote...

FirstBlood XL wrote...

The 'No Shep' comment will be the one promise BW actually keeps in regards to Mass Effect.


probably, you can't really trust what they say

How is that when Bioware hasn't lied but I guess some don't know the difference between fact and opinion.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 22 octobre 2012 - 02:55 .


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JohnShepard12 wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

JohnShepard12 wrote...

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This was a no brainer, and the Devs did say that ME3 was going to be the end of Shepard's tale.

I only wish that had been true. :(


How can you wish? They said it before the game was released, even during the demo announcement of it.

I wish that ME3 actually had ended Shepard's story. It didn't. It had an insulting cliffhanger.

To be fair Shepard did get a good send off and a real cliffhanger belongs to Halo 2.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 22 octobre 2012 - 02:52 .


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Owlman36 wrote...

I'm just going to point out everything wrong with this game, just to get it all out of the way.

Campaign
1. Quarians are a race of random people who have been photo-shopped by Bioware.
2. Mako is visible but not usable (really wanted to see if Alliance fixed Mako's tendency to bounce like a beach ball).
3. Poorly done side-quests or in this case "scan-quests" (In original Mass Effect you felt like a bad-**** and you didn't have to scan every system to find them).
4. Cameos that while fun at times www.youtube.com/watch most were really subtle or stupid.
5. Massive plot holes (Haestrom, Collectors return, permanency of Reaper control, etc)
6. 2 decent endings and 1 pointless ending *cough*synthesis*cough*
7. Leviathans don't do shiat!
8. Everyone has turned bisexual for no reason (they could have added a gay, straight, or bisexual section to the questioner).
9. Weird scene at the end with the old geezer and the kid that made no sense (made it seem like the guy made up the whole Mass Effect universe so he could tell his granddaughter a story).
10. No way to continue story forward. As Mordin said "Too many variables!"

Multiplayer
1. Excessively rude/racist community (can't play a game as a Drell without being called gay).
2. Basically just Firefight from Halo but with Mass Effect staplled to it.
3. Unlock system is like a fail version of Lost Planet 2's

It sounds like you're the Emperor in Star Wars because you're just filled with biased rage based on your nippicks.  Its okay to have an opinion but its never a good idea to throw out the baby with the bath water like complaining about the Internet being the Internet, your personal expectations weren't matched, or Kaiden had a bi option in ME3 without his sexuality being fully explained in the previous games.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 22 octobre 2012 - 03:22 .


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I have no issue with a completely different protagonist in ME4. I believe that's the way it should go in fact.

But BioWare butchered their trilogy's conclusion so badly, and their refusal to provide Shepard's survival ending with any substantial closure is a real f-you.

Leaving a trilogy's ending ambiguous is a total disgrace, and an odd move considering their usually fine storytelling ability.

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Owlman36 wrote...

I'm just going to point out everything wrong with this game, just to get it all out of the way.

Campaign
1. Quarians are a race of random people who have been photo-shopped by Bioware.
2. Mako is visible but not usable (really wanted to see if Alliance fixed Mako's tendency to bounce like a beach ball).
3. Poorly done side-quests or in this case "scan-quests" (In original Mass Effect you felt like a bad-**** and you didn't have to scan every system to find them).
4. Cameos that while fun at times www.youtube.com/watch most were really subtle or stupid.
5. Massive plot holes (Haestrom, Collectors return, permanency of Reaper control, etc)
6. 2 decent endings and 1 pointless ending *cough*synthesis*cough*
7. Leviathans don't do shiat!
8. Everyone has turned bisexual for no reason (they could have added a gay, straight, or bisexual section to the questioner).
9. Weird scene at the end with the old geezer and the kid that made no sense (made it seem like the guy made up the whole Mass Effect universe so he could tell his granddaughter a story).
10. No way to continue story forward. As Mordin said "Too many variables!"

Multiplayer
1. Excessively rude/racist community (can't play a game as a Drell without being called gay).
2. Basically just Firefight from Halo but with Mass Effect staplled to it.
3. Unlock system is like a fail version of Lost Planet 2's


You're painting with broad brushes. #1 for multiplayer is probably the most laughable.