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#51
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Jade8aby88 wrote...

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" So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.”


So no more reapers. Confirmed. Either moving with leviathan or going back into a prequel. Maybe they are going to abandon rpg gaming or maybe they create an MMO for the first contact war. MMO is more likely.  Something is telling me that EA will force them to abandon SP games.


I highly, highly, doubt that. With SWTOR's lack of success and price budget. I don't think they'll be in a rush to make a $200 million dollar MEMMO.


Pretty much. Not to mentioned TOR mortally wounded the company.

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FPS is more likely than MMO.

Yeah - you really have a chance of usurping Halo and/or CoD......

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Fedi.St wrote...

" So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.”


So no more reapers. Confirmed. Either moving with leviathan or going back into a prequel. Maybe they are going to abandon rpg gaming or maybe they create an MMO for the first contact war. MMO is more likely.  Something is telling me that EA will force them to abandon SP games.


I highly, highly, doubt that. With SWTOR's lack of success and price budget. I don't think they'll be in a rush to make a $200 million dollar MEMMO.


Pretty much. Not to mentioned TOR mortally wounded the company.

*Citation needed.

But, at this point, I shouldn't be surprised. To listen to the disgruntled of every Bioware release in the last half decade, every game has been a fatal mistake.

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Ghost1017 wrote...

I think having Shepard as the protagonist would be easier than having a new one.

In what way?

A new cast allows them to avoid being locked-in by previous import choices and restrictions of every person's 'individual' Shepard.

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They have been saying this right from the start. If this piece of 'news' disappoints you, it's your own damn fault.

I want something new! So much potential with the ME universe.

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Reorte wrote...

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If Shepard's trilogy is destined to stay lying in that rubble. I'm not buying anymore Mass Effect games. It would be a betrayel to my emotions and if BioWare honestly think I will ever trust them again with my immersion. They can **** off.


Thats exactly how I feel. I have no interest in playing Mass Effect 4 so long as my Shepard remains in limbo, as far as i'm concerned the Mass effect franchise ended before priority earth.

That's how I feel but that's nothing to do with a new game, it's to do with fixing the current one. IMO having a new set of characters for a new Mass Effect game is the sensible thing to do. As much as I'd love to see a lot more of Shepard and crew it's time for someone else to take the limelight.


Yea I should really wait and see in terms of a new Mass Effect game. However I dont really want to invest in a new Mass Effect game when I know how the last one turned out. 

I think a new character is a necessity for a new Mass Effect though if only to get away from the mess that Shepards end caused, still not sure if I would buy it though.

Modifié par Kais Endac, 19 octobre 2012 - 12:40 .


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Bester76 wrote...

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All good things must come to an end, as they say.


I'm still waiting on that end to come.


Think you'll find it on Rannoch.....



Actually I was more referring to Bioware rather than the ending to ME3 Image IPB

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Fedi.St wrote...

" So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.”


So no more reapers. Confirmed. Either moving with leviathan or going back into a prequel. Maybe they are going to abandon rpg gaming or maybe they create an MMO for the first contact war. MMO is more likely.  Something is telling me that EA will force them to abandon SP games.


I highly, highly, doubt that. With SWTOR's lack of success and price budget. I don't think they'll be in a rush to make a $200 million dollar MEMMO.


Then they have nothing to move forward with.   shepard's story is finished. we won't be in a post shepard era  as a soldier so what next? it won't be a mass effect game.

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

I think having Shepard as the protagonist would be easier than having a new one.

In what way?

A new cast allows them to avoid being locked-in by previous import choices and restrictions of every person's 'individual' Shepard.

In already having established characters.

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Welp

The IT fans may be upset - though I think they will just believe that shep will wake up and then this new protagonist will finish the fight against the reapers

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"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

Harvey Dent - The Dark Knight.

I loved Shepard as all of you and i'm so sorry see his story to end in this way, but maybe Bioware has right this time. :?    
I think that begin a new story with new protagonist is the correct choice. I do not want to see my Shepard reduced to a "heated soup" like COD or other game franchise.

Shepard die like a Hero and we remember him like a Hero.

Goodbye Shep, we'll miss you...:(

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Fedi.St wrote...

" So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.”


So no more reapers. Confirmed. Either moving with leviathan or going back into a prequel. Maybe they are going to abandon rpg gaming or maybe they create an MMO for the first contact war. MMO is more likely.  Something is telling me that EA will force them to abandon SP games.


I highly, highly, doubt that. With SWTOR's lack of success and price budget. I don't think they'll be in a rush to make a $200 million dollar MEMMO.


Pretty much. Not to mentioned TOR mortally wounded the company.

*Citation needed.

But, at this point, I shouldn't be surprised. To listen to the disgruntled of every Bioware release in the last half decade, every game has been a fatal mistake.


Roughly half a billion dollar MMO that goes f2p in less than a year, and even then it's still hemorraging subscribers. Yeah, that didn't blow the company's foot off.

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anorling wrote...

Bester76 wrote...

Descy_ wrote...

anorling wrote...


All good things must come to an end, as they say.


I'm still waiting on that end to come.


Think you'll find it on Rannoch.....



Actually I was more referring to Bioware rather than the ending to ME3 Image IPB


Ah, in that case, you'll find it with DAO. ;)

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Good.

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N7 Shadow Liara wrote...

Kais Endac wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

If Shepard's trilogy is destined to stay lying in that rubble. I'm not buying anymore Mass Effect games. It would be a betrayel to my emotions and if BioWare honestly think I will ever trust them again with my immersion. They can **** off.


Thats exactly how I feel. I have no interest in playing Mass Effect 4 so long as my Shepard remains in limbo, as far as i'm concerned the Mass effect franchise ended before priority earth.


Exactly same feeling!


+1000
You don't end a trilogy on a cliffhanger.

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this franchise is finished indeed. I wont buy no spin-off if they dont clear up the ending.

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YAWN! Stop with the menopausal girly whining FFS. Bioware have been saying for ages that ME3 is the end of the line for Shepard - that much should be pretty obvious in that only 1 of 4 possible endings ends with him breathing, and it's left to individual interpretations as to how that went. Otherwise he gets a serious case of deadness and it's all over.

ME4 or whatever they plan to call it, MUST move on. It really cannot be allowed to stagnate by recycling the same characters over and over again - even i would get bored if by ME6 you still had Garrus saying "Just like old times."

Either having a game which paralelled ME1-3 or a prequel or sequel I'm just glad that my experience in the ME Universe isn't over yet! :)

Poo on you all who don't want to play just because Shep isn't involved, that just leaves more awesomeness to the real fans who can't wait for the next installment. :D

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Fedi.St wrote...

" So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.”


So no more reapers. Confirmed. Either moving with leviathan or going back into a prequel. Maybe they are going to abandon rpg gaming or maybe they create an MMO for the first contact war. MMO is more likely.  Something is telling me that EA will force them to abandon SP games.


I highly, highly, doubt that. With SWTOR's lack of success and price budget. I don't think they'll be in a rush to make a $200 million dollar MEMMO.


Pretty much. Not to mentioned TOR mortally wounded the company.

*Citation needed.

But, at this point, I shouldn't be surprised. To listen to the disgruntled of every Bioware release in the last half decade, every game has been a fatal mistake.


Roughly half a billion dollar MMO that goes f2p in less than a year, and even then it's still hemorraging subscribers.

Besides supporting the claimed cost, do you have any numbers on the income generated by the game?

If I were to take your argument on the face of it, Bioware lost roughly half a billion dollars on the investment. As that would presuppose no one paid anything for the game in the period it wasn't f2p, and that f2p doesn't bring in any revenue either, and that both of those arguments would be laughable...

You've created half an argument, asserting a cost you haven't even supported.

Yeah, that didn't blow the company's foot off.

Here's a medical update for you: that's not necessarily a fatal wound even if it is true.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 19 octobre 2012 - 12:56 .


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Codename_Code wrote...

this franchise is finished indeed. I wont buy no spin-off if they dont clear up the ending.


Honestly i agree with this. The biggest problem is that the writers really wrote themselves into a wall with ME3's ending. They should just put the series to rest. It had good run and ended miserably. The franchise we knew and love is pretty much dead at this point and to continue it, would be like poking at it's bloated corpse with sticks. 

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TSA_383 wrote...


+1000
You don't end a trilogy on a cliffhanger.


The trilogy is over

it's all over:crying:

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TSA_383 wrote...

N7 Shadow Liara wrote...

Kais Endac wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

If Shepard's trilogy is destined to stay lying in that rubble. I'm not buying anymore Mass Effect games. It would be a betrayel to my emotions and if BioWare honestly think I will ever trust them again with my immersion. They can **** off.


Thats exactly how I feel. I have no interest in playing Mass Effect 4 so long as my Shepard remains in limbo, as far as i'm concerned the Mass effect franchise ended before priority earth.


Exactly same feeling!


+1000
You don't end a trilogy on a cliffhanger.


+1001. Bioware wants a new protagonist? Fine. Just finish the story properly for the current one first. Then I might be interested.

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ghost9191 wrote...

Fedi.St wrote...

" So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.”


So no more reapers. Confirmed. Either moving with leviathan or going back into a sequel. Maybe they are going to abandon rpg gaming or maybe they create an MMO for the first contact war. MMO is more likely.  Something is telling me that EA will force them to abandon SP games.


well one if i recall ea did say during e3 that all their games will have mp. but i don't think a mmo being set during first contact would work., considering it was on one planet, and didn't last long

maybe a fps , which eh to that idea . would prefer another rpg myself


My friend bioware we knew is dead. Bioware as it is now has nothing to do with quality. they have to get numbers. they will squeeze mass effect as a brand name to get the numbers ea demands. THAT'S THE REASON the doctors resigned. 

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

If Shepard's trilogy is destined to stay lying in that rubble. I'm not buying anymore Mass Effect games. It would be a betrayel to my emotions and if BioWare honestly think I will ever trust them again with my immersion. They can **** off.



A rather civilized way to express your opinion. If you read something like this, you definitely will pay attention and take it seriously. Way to go... now this is not complaining anymore, but whining. 

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Codename_Code wrote...

this franchise is finished indeed. I wont buy no spin-off if they dont clear up the ending.


Honestly i agree with this. The biggest problem is that the writers really wrote themselves into a wall with ME3's ending. They should just put the series to rest. It had good run and ended miserably. The franchise we knew and love is pretty much dead at this point and to continue it, would be like poking at it's bloated corpse with sticks.


Can I ask what the hell isn't clear about the ending? Except maybe Shepard surviving (FOR SOME PEOPLE).
The only thing that isn't clear is which ending is cannon. Though I think that only control&destroy are fit for a sequel.

The only thing I don't like it is that it sounds like they either move on veeery far in the future to make everything irrelevant ( like Shep's friends, your choices, if your Shepard survived). 

 Or they do some crappy spin-off or prequel, both of which would suck, because they'd have to do something with the Reapers (which would be boring) or it'd be very irrelevant to the future.

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They claim to have created a "vast, rich universe", but the way ME3 ends, the galaxy is going to be in three hugely different states depending on how you ended it.  So if they set a new game after that they'd either have to build three games for the price of one (never going to happen) or railroad your previous choices into one universe, either by declaring one canon (booo) or somehow mashing all together (another blow to the claim that "your choices matter").

Or, a prequel, which has its own issues, namely that humans have not been in the galaxy very long and nothing epic has happened between first contact and ME1.  The idea of a First Contact War MMO is funny to me - it would have more players on a server than lore says took part in the war!  The other option would be something like the rachni wars, krogan rebellion, or other previous conflict - but that would be no humans.  Has there ever been an RPG that had no humans in it at all?  I'm trying to think of one, got nothing.

Or a "here's what was going on behind the scenes while ME1-ME3 was happening"... which is lame.