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Bioware: "Absolutely no more Shepard. We don´t want Shepard 2.0" New Hero for Mass Effect 4


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iakus wrote...

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If Shepards story is truly over, can we get a good ending for her that gives her closure instead of having to headcanon it?

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iakus wrote...

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If Shepard's trilogy is destined to stay lying in that rubble. I'm not buying anymore Mass Effect games. It would be a betrayel to my emotions and if BioWare honestly think I will ever trust them again with my immersion. They can **** off.

Indeed.

If my last image of Shepard is his broken, burned body lying in a pile of rubble, why in the world would I want to return to this universe?  How can I trust Bioware won't drop a bridge on my next character? (yes, "my" character.  This is still an rpg, after all)

 Heck, how can I be sure they won't just take the character away from me whenever "the Narrative" demands it?  Just like with ME3.  I can understand wanting to make ME3 smply go away.  But ignoring it's not going to make that happen

Edit:  If Shepard got a decent ending, I'd have no problem with having a new protagonist for the next Mass Effect game

Bottom line... you can't. You cannot trust Bioware and they have gone out of their way to prove that to us. They have made no effort to rectify their lies about the game pre-release.

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I expect Mass Effect 4 to go the same way Halo 4 did.

We'll get some prequels, some ****ty spin offs, then the future EA Edmonton that will inevitably come out of Bioware's namesake crash due to EA stuffing so many random studios into it (Mythic, Victory, etc) will canonize the destroy ending and bring Shepard back, it will be a triumphant return to the glory days of the series just like Halo 4 is being championed as. 

Hopefully by then Mac Walters will have moved on to soil another green pasture. 

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Doctor Moustache wrote...

I expect Mass Effect 4 to go the same way Halo 4 did.

We'll get some prequels, some ****ty spin offs, then the future EA Edmonton that will inevitably come out of Bioware's namesake crash due to EA stuffing so many random studios into it (Mythic, Victory, etc) will canonize the destroy ending and bring Shepard back, it will be a triumphant return to the glory days of the series just like Halo 4 is being championed as. 

Hopefully by then Mac Walters will have moved on to soil another green pasture. 

Hell, if that's the way it's gonna go, let's hope he and Casey stick with ME and avoid ruining other good franchises... if there even are any.

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Having no more Shepard is a mistake, they should at least give him/her a proper sendoff though for the final ME3 DLC.
Shepard deserved better than to be left lying under a pile of citadel rubble in the destroy ending and well if you picked synthesis or control then I guess you should be happy with the ending as is.

Modifié par AndreasShepard, 19 octobre 2012 - 06:31 .


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AndreasShepard wrote...

Having no more Shepard is a mistake, they should at least give him/her a proper sendoff though for the final ME3 DLC.
Shepard deserved better than to be left lying under a pile of citadel rubble in the destroy ending and well if you picked synthesis or control then I guess you should be happy with the ending as is.

Most everyone here agrees with you. It's clear Bioware has gotten the message and simply chosen not to give fans what they want.

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JohnShepard12 wrote...

iakus wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

If Shepards story is truly over, can we get a good ending for her that gives her closure instead of having to headcanon it?

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For me, no Shepard, no Mass Effect. Shepard makes the series for me

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to me its like taking solid snake from metal gear, its not the same

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Hey BioWare are you planning again to deliver some collorful ending where the hero dies ?
I would like to know so I can prepare myself for another nihilism ending...

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only that the game is set after me3. and if shepard survives you get the chanse to be him/her again maybe

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Agreed.

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You know...I honestly don't get it. This is the first time I've visited the story forums in a while, and if people still don't like the endings...why don't they just fix them? Why drag this out longer than it has to? Its been eight months and there's still backlash. EIGHT. I mean, is bioware planning something, have some trick up their sleeve?


You know...I honestly don't get it. This is the first time I've visited the [IMDB message boards] in a while, and if people still don't like the [Matrix sequels]...why don't they just fix them? Why drag this out longer than it has to? It's been [approximately nine years] and there's still backlash. [NINE]. I mean, is [Warner Bros.] planning something, have some trick up their sleeve?

I mean no offense, I am just trying to illustrate the flaw with this type of thinking. People didn't like ME1, ME2, DA2, Halo 2, RE5, Rage, Oblivion, and so on. Why didn't the respective companies fix those games? Just because there is fan backlash does not mean alterations are inevitable. In the case of ME3, there actually were changes in response to the backlash in the form of the EC DLC. That DLC obviously wasn't a cure for all issues concerning the endings, but as Dean_the_Younger said, there will unfortunately always be a disappointed faction of a consumer base. People may continue to give feedback, I am in no way telling those with legitimate criticism to shut up. What I am saying is don't always expect your labors to yield fruit.

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Toolbox 24 wrote...

YAWN! Stop with the menopausal girly whining FFS.


Way to slam all females in your attempt to insult a few ME fans. Got any non-gendered insults up your sleeve?

In other news, I'm fine with Shep's story ending with ME3; although, like others, I'd like some actual closure to her story. I am worried that they are going to change too much that made ME a success to begin with. I've heard that they don't want to do a trilogy anymore; the unique idea of carrying your story across three games really drew me to the franchise and I hope they reconsider. I'm also not interested in an MMO or FPS. I want story and characters. I can go to plenty of other franchises for  another experience. I'm just afraid they are going to make ME a drastically different game than what drew me to it in the first place. There is nothing else like it out there; they need to capitalize on that not make it more of the same.

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Toolbox 24 wrote...

Thought they already said the ME3 was the end of Shepard's story arc?


Yes. Repeatedly. Casey said it. Miek Gamble & Mac Walters have said it. Jessica and I have said it.

Commander Shepard's adventures took place in ME1-ME3 (and DLCs). We are working on another ME game, but it is not a Commander Shepard game.

We have no other details as to what the new ME game will be, who what where when, etc it will be. It will likely be over a year before we start talking about what the new game will be, but you're welcome to contribute what you would like to see in it until then.



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Remember the pre ME3 release lies.
I don't trust them, they're just as likely to use Shep as they are not too.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Toolbox 24 wrote...

Thought they already said the ME3 was the end of Shepard's story arc?


Yes. Repeatedly. Casey said it. Miek Gamble & Mac Walters have said it. Jessica and I have said it.

Commander Shepard's adventures took place in ME1-ME3 (and DLCs). We are working on another ME game, but it is not a Commander Shepard game.

We have no other details as to what the new ME game will be, who what where when, etc it will be. It will likely be over a year before we start talking about what the new game will be, but you're welcome to contribute what you would like to see in it until then.



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Yeah, but the thing is, ya'll said a lot that didn't come true. :unsure: Namely about the Mass Effect 3 ending.

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Hey Chris *waves*

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I await the first something-or-other 4 reviews with detached interest. But no Shep no ME for me.

But anyway - my Shep got up from the rubble, buried Anderson & stayed on Earth to rebuild (with Ash of course).

He also currently has a sideline as my Assault Colonel in UFO-Enemy Unknown.....

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Toolbox 24 wrote...

Thought they already said the ME3 was the end of Shepard's story arc?


Yes. Repeatedly. Casey said it. Miek Gamble & Mac Walters have said it. Jessica and I have said it.

Commander Shepard's adventures took place in ME1-ME3 (and DLCs). We are working on another ME game, but it is not a Commander Shepard game.

We have no other details as to what the new ME game will be, who what where when, etc it will be. It will likely be over a year before we start talking about what the new game will be, but you're welcome to contribute what you would like to see in it until then.


I didnt believe you guys. 
Now I do.
My butt hurt continues into infinity..

Seriously upset.

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wantedman dan wrote...

May Mass Effect 4 crash and burn to give the legacy a death it deserves.



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Chris Priestly wrote...

Toolbox 24 wrote...

Thought they already said the ME3 was the end of Shepard's story arc?


Yes. Repeatedly. Casey said it. Miek Gamble & Mac Walters have said it. Jessica and I have said it.

Commander Shepard's adventures took place in ME1-ME3 (and DLCs). We are working on another ME game, but it is not a Commander Shepard game.

We have no other details as to what the new ME game will be, who what where when, etc it will be. It will likely be over a year before we start talking about what the new game will be, but you're welcome to contribute what you would like to see in it until then.



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Pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaase Chris, make it a new customizable character like Shep that we will be able to transfer throughout 3 new games. And have it be sequel! :crying:

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IsaacShep wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Toolbox 24 wrote...

Thought they already said the ME3 was the end of Shepard's story arc?


Yes. Repeatedly. Casey said it. Miek Gamble & Mac Walters have said it. Jessica and I have said it.

Commander Shepard's adventures took place in ME1-ME3 (and DLCs). We are working on another ME game, but it is not a Commander Shepard game.

We have no other details as to what the new ME game will be, who what where when, etc it will be. It will likely be over a year before we start talking about what the new game will be, but you're welcome to contribute what you would like to see in it until then.



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Pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaase Chris, make it a new customizable character like Shep that we will be able to transfer throughout 3 new games. And have it be sequel! :crying:


And then take that character out of our hands at the very end and burn it in front of our eye!