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#226
Teahouse Fox

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It goes beyond this.

Yes, glitchers who make mad bank through cheats are unlikely to spend BW points to buy items in the store. However, I would say a minority of players buy anything in the store, cheater or legit. You don't have to.  In-game credit covers everything.  The very impatient might buy with actual BW points, but it does them no good; From the people I have spoken to, they didn't perceive any greater chance of getting UR items or weapons. Not worth the money, unless you drop quite a bit to muscle past the probability factors to just "get it all now".   But you can earn that same money in an afternoon of playing Gold/Plat.

So cheaters are likely impatient, irretreivably bad players, bored into griefing, or all of these.

The only thing wrong with the store from my experience is that it sometimes dumps you from the server. It also seems that the probability of rares/UR dropping is sometimes... adjusted. I went months without finding two weapons, then after the last free DLC dropped, not only did I get all the new stuff within 400k worth of PSPs, I also got the two elusive weapons - both in a single PSP. If that does not flaunt the laws of probability, I don't know what does.

So why might Bioware care about stomping out cheaters if it's not about who is spending BW points? It goes to reputation. Why would the majority of players who do not cheat want to play a Bioware MP if it's nothing more than a wretched hive of scum and villany? That's a lot of engagement with people who are far more willing to be paying customers of paid DLC and other BW titles that will be lost if legit players give up in the face of rampant cheating. 

People who will go elsewhere to have fun with their money.

#227
SandeProElite

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I wish they could fix missile glitching for good. So annoying to see idiots keep doing it.

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Hello here is my story. It is all started two mounths ago when i join
some random lobby game.
When i join that game it send me right to extraction wave, after we
finish it show me that i got 70 million credits.
After that pass around two mounths but i always keep that 70 mil and i
never spend it. I only spend credits i got since than or before.
Around 20s october i were banned for exploiting, although i NEVER used
any exploits in my life.
I contacted origin live help and they said they transfered my case to
some kind of biowere team.
After that my account was unbanned, but all my weapons and characters
dissapeared.
So, I did not spend that 70 mil credits that i got on my account
apperantly becouse host of that game were cheater. I had never cheat
or used any exploits.
Please help me to get my stuff back i did nothing wrong. Name of the
host of that game were "protosmergen".
I have nothing to do with that guy my only crime is that i join random
game PLEASE HELP.

Regards,
Player bui3333

#229
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I have never seen a somebody cheat on this game, what does it look like?

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Met a cheater just now, on pc, having all his stats maxed on his kits, and able to down Banshees on Gold with full barriers with only half a clip of body shots from a Raptor VIII, equipped with Cryo Ammo, on the Asari Valkyrie. That got me suspicious enough to just take a look at his manifest, which confirmed the first.
Reported him ofcourse.

Modifié par Cornughon, 28 octobre 2012 - 06:34 .


#231
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I have a question... If I meet a cheater and recognize it very late that he/she is a cheater is there the danger that my account gets banned? I'm just asking because in wave 11 I recognized someone who wasn't playing proper and immediatly left the game. I mean, a Disciple isn't that mighty that it kills an Atlas with full armor and half of its shields left.

I wanted to report her/him but forgot the Origin ID for my shame...

Modifié par Alkcair, 28 octobre 2012 - 07:44 .


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Alkcair wrote...

I have a question... If I meet a cheater and recognize it very late that he/she is a cheater is there the danger that my account gets banned? I'm just asking because in wave 11 I recognized someone who wasn't playing proper and immediatly left the game. I mean, a Disciple isn't that mighty that it kills an Atlas with full armor and half of its shields left.

I wanted to report her/him but forgot the Origin ID for my shame...

You don't have to leave the game, wasting your time and equipment, especially at extraction wave.
And no your account shouldn't be banned. Did you report the person?

#233
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I did not use any consumables or equipment in this game so I did not mind.

And as I wrote - I would report that person but I forgot the Origin ID...

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Alkcair wrote...

And as I wrote - I would report that person but I forgot the Origin ID...

Sorry my mistake, didn't read the last sentence. Image IPB

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Was playing on Firebase Hydra earlier today, had a guy with N7 ranking in the 200s, can't remember gamer tag, and he went up and glitched himself off the map somehow and was walking around the waterfall. I yelled at him for him saying he was gonna get us all banned for doing that and he left the game. Is that something to report if I see it happen and can remember the gamertag? Or is that an ok Glitch like running with the pizza?

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stromguard555 wrote...

Was playing on Firebase Hydra earlier today, had a guy with N7 ranking in the 200s, can't remember gamer tag, and he went up and glitched himself off the map somehow and was walking around the waterfall. I yelled at him for him saying he was gonna get us all banned for doing that and he left the game. Is that something to report if I see it happen and can remember the gamertag? Or is that an ok Glitch like running with the pizza?


Did he say he did it on purpose? If not, chances are, he had no control over it. I got knocked off the map on Hydra once too. Rio seems to be the only map that will reset you to the spawn point if you glitch to an illegal location.

I died once on Giant/Cerberus/Gold, right by the ledge near the ammo box at the bottom of a ramp where mobs frequently pop up from below in a spawn. When I hit my medigel and revived, I fell off completely, landing in the tunnel where you can see several Tonka trucks parked. 

The wave went on, and I told my friends I had fallen off the map.  I walked down the tunnel a bit looking at the trucks, and hoping to find a place that I could fall off and force a reset to the spawn point. The next wave started and a dragoon spawned down there with me.  I was busy fighting it with a freaking Avenger (for the AR challenge :pinched:) when everyone else came by to see me running around the Tonkas.

Then someone sniped my dragoon from above. <_<

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Ernest Tse wrote...

Over the past month we received many reports of players gaining unfair advantages in Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer by exploiting the game using the infinite missile glitch, the invincible vorcha glitch, changing their weapon stats, modifying game credits and XP rewards gained per match etc.

All reports sent to ME3MPCheaters@BioWare.com have been investigated by our team and today we banned an additional 731 players from Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer. We do not condone exploitation and we will continue to take decisive action against those who violate our policies. We wish to keep Mass Effect 3’s online environment engaging and its leaderboards legitimate.

For more information on our cheating policies and procedures, please visit our Cheating Compendium & News forum:

http://social.biowar...index/13575450/

If you have been banned and believe an error has been made, please contact ME3AccountAdmin@BioWare.com and your case will be reviewed.

We greatly appreciate and would like to thank our Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer community for bringing a lot of these cases to our attention and helping us maintain a positive online environment. If you suspect someone is exploiting multiplayer, you can send a report to ME3MPCheaters@BioWare.com.

Regards,
Ernest Tse

i know if i dont get my 35$ back because of your ****ty servers, im not going to report any glitchers.

#238
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Can we do away with this infinite missile launcher bull**** already? Can't even play a single platinum game without at least one of these ****s showing up.

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Zombie_Valhalla wrote...

Can we do away with this infinite missile launcher bull**** already? Can't even play a single platinum game without at least one of these ****s showing up.

The problem is that Bioware isnt entirely sure what is causing this glitch. They've supposedly patched it 5 times already.

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How will these people know theyre banned. A friend of mine who started few days ago can't connect to the server but I can and he lives 2 doors down from me.

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Reported two cases of players exploiting the game mechanics of object recovery (dropping, picking up the item and sprinting) the last week. The last game I was hosting. I really hope I won't get banned by association.

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exploiting the game mechanics of object recovery (dropping, picking up the item and sprinting)


Didn't someone from BW say this isn't exploiting?

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MADHOUSE0977 Xbox live gamertag missle gliching

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Nero Narmeril wrote...

exploiting the game mechanics of object recovery (dropping, picking up the item and sprinting)


Didn't someone from BW say this isn't exploiting?

Yeah i guess they said there was no problem with that.

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I saw and reported my first missile glitcher the other day. If you're using a missile launcher to kill swarmers you need to GTFO.

#246
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ok, i just wanted to clear this up.


Bioware, you have just banned another 731 people from multiplayer.
by doing so you have essentially banned them from your game, as we all know the only replayability is in the MP.

you've likely banned at least that amount in the previous patches as all your more recent patches aimed to rid the game of these game exploits.

so we'll say roughly 2000 people have been banned from MP, and my guess getting rid of the game itself soon followed.

you've lost many, many fans over the fact that the game is incomplete, poorly developed, and an ending filled with unoriginal ideas taken from other sci-fi works.

i'm guessing in the coming weeks more people will be banned for cheating, more people will get rid of their copies because like i said above the game is incomplete, poorly developed, and has the worst ending in gaming.

then there are people like me, who bought ME1 on release day, loved it, and moved on to ME2, enjoyed it, then bought ME3. Where we were disoppointed beyond words. And with each passing day, we care even less, and with continued business practices that are borderline pathetic.


day by day your fanbase shrinks, and your only solution is to ban people for exploiting game mechanics your developers are to lazy to fix.

maybe instead of making new MP character, or new MP maps, or new Hazards or new weapons, or some stupid SP DLC or the N7 HQ, you should fix the issues that already exist.

if you dont want people to cheat, dont give them the tools to do so.
you allowed the game to be sold with these problems, and i think it's time you fix them

Modifié par RebelTitan428, 01 novembre 2012 - 05:12 .


#247
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RebelTitan428 wrote...

ok, i just wanted to clear this up.


Bioware, you have just banned another 731 people from multiplayer.
by doing so you have essentially banned them from your game, as we all know the only replayability is in the MP.

you've likely banned at least that amount in the previous patches as all your more recent patches aimed to rid the game of these game exploits.

so we'll say roughly 2000 people have been banned from MP, and my guess getting rid of the game itself soon followed.

you've lost many, many fans over the fact that the game is incomplete, poorly developed, and an ending filled with unoriginal ideas taken from other sci-fi works.

i'm guessing in the coming weeks more people will be banned for cheating, more people will get rid of their copies because like i said above the game is incomplete, poorly developed, and has the worst ending in gaming.

then there are people like me, who bought ME1 on release day, loved it, and moved on to ME2, enjoyed it, then bought ME3. Where we were disoppointed beyond words. And with each passing day, we care even less, and with continued business practices that are borderline pathetic.


day by day your fanbase shrinks, and your only solution is to ban people for exploiting game mechanics your developers are to lazy to fix.

maybe instead of making new MP character, or new MP maps, or new Hazards or new weapons, or some stupid SP DLC or the N7 HQ, you should fix the issues that already exist.

if you dont want people to cheat, dont give them the tools to do so.
you allowed the game to be sold with these problems, and i think it's time you fix them


It's unfortunate that you feel this way, but it offends me that you are so quick to undermine all the hard work put into the Mass Effect franchise from all the people here at BioWare. Please don't be so quick to judge when you've only seen the unsightly cracks at the tip of the iceberg.

Also, you (and many others) seem to assume that we exclusively ban people for missile glitching. NOT TRUE. There are those who change game files, whether downloading certain programs, digging into the game files, or making programs of their own, to give themselves an unfair advantage and ultimately terribly ruining not only the multiplayer experience, but potentially breaking certain components of the game for many others. We do not have direct control (no pun intended) of these cheater's actions and fixing the glitches won't affect their behaviour in the game.

In my honest opinion, which doesn't neccessarily represent BioWare's point of view, creating more single player and multiplayer content has the ability to positively affect 100% of the player base for ME3 (all who chooses to participate) and keeps the game fresh and exciting, whereas dealing with cheaters and glitchers will affect only those who are unlucky enough to come across them. Not saying that cheaters and glitchers aren't a problem (thats why I'm here), but these kinds of in-game behaviour is hard to avoid and should not be left alone.

Even though you are entitled to have your opinions and arguments, at least have the decency to make them more constructive and not base them on misinformed assumptions. But if it was your goal to offend me, job well done.

Modifié par Ernest Tse, 01 novembre 2012 - 09:43 .


#248
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God will people STFU up about the missile glitch, saying you cant find a single platinum game with all legit players is complete BS, its not that hard also here is an easy way to avoid it... play private games like if send people you like playing with friend request they will most likely accept and if you build a good network then you can sign on and start a private lobby with your new friends so stop being so socially awkward and c'mon i know people love the mass effect series but if your telling me that you were playing SP and you were disappointing at everything then why didnt you just stop playing and if your telling me you liked ME1 and ME2 and all of ME3 except the ending and now your so pissed about it that you have to complain and bash the writers then you need a better life like no matter how much you love the game it is still just a game and the last 20 mins of a 20 hour game shouldnt ruin your mood and to the people who feel proud for reporting missile glitchers , you guys are just pathetic like it doesn't affect your game that much/at all. so when you write " just reported my first cheater today" you sound like a complete idiot who will probably never say " just had sex for the first time today"

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Ernest Tse wrote...

RebelTitan428 wrote...

ok, i just wanted to clear this up.


Bioware, you have just banned another 731 people from multiplayer.
by doing so you have essentially banned them from your game, as we all know the only replayability is in the MP.

you've likely banned at least that amount in the previous patches as all your more recent patches aimed to rid the game of these game exploits.

so we'll say roughly 2000 people have been banned from MP, and my guess getting rid of the game itself soon followed.

you've lost many, many fans over the fact that the game is incomplete, poorly developed, and an ending filled with unoriginal ideas taken from other sci-fi works.

i'm guessing in the coming weeks more people will be banned for cheating, more people will get rid of their copies because like i said above the game is incomplete, poorly developed, and has the worst ending in gaming.

then there are people like me, who bought ME1 on release day, loved it, and moved on to ME2, enjoyed it, then bought ME3. Where we were disoppointed beyond words. And with each passing day, we care even less, and with continued business practices that are borderline pathetic.


day by day your fanbase shrinks, and your only solution is to ban people for exploiting game mechanics your developers are to lazy to fix.

maybe instead of making new MP character, or new MP maps, or new Hazards or new weapons, or some stupid SP DLC or the N7 HQ, you should fix the issues that already exist.

if you dont want people to cheat, dont give them the tools to do so.
you allowed the game to be sold with these problems, and i think it's time you fix them


It's unfortunate that you feel this way, but it offends me that you are so quick to undermine all the hard work put into the Mass Effect franchise from all the people here at BioWare. Please don't be so quick to judge when you've only seen the unsightly cracks at the tip of the iceberg.

Also, you (and many others) seem to assume that we exclusively ban people for missile glitching. NOT TRUE. There are those who change game files, whether downloading certain programs, digging into the game files, or making programs of their own, to give themselves an unfair advantage and ultimately terribly ruining not only the multiplayer experience, but potentially breaking certain components of the game for many others. We do not have direct control (no pun intended) of these cheater's actions and fixing the glitches won't affect their behaviour in the game.

In my honest opinion, which doesn't neccessarily represent BioWare's point of view, creating more single player and multiplayer content has the ability to positively affect 100% of the player base for ME3 (all who chooses to participate) and keeps the game fresh and exciting, whereas dealing with cheaters and glitchers will affect only those who are unlucky enough to come across them. Not saying that cheaters and glitchers aren't a problem (thats why I'm here), but these kinds of in-game behaviour is hard to avoid and should not be left alone.

Even though you are entitled to have your opinions and arguments, at least have the decency to make them more constructive and not base them on misinformed assumptions. But if it was your goal to offend me, job well done.




it is not, nor was it my intention to offend.
so regarding that i apologize.

Now i do not work in gaming, nor do i work in business, so to say my assumptions are misinformed would be correct. But one thing i am is a customer.
So i have to ask, how would you feel if you spent $80 on something full of errors.
Would you purchse a book if it were missing chapters?
would you purchase a computer if you knew it did not perform the functions as advertised.

perhaps lazy was a strong word, and perhaps it is an word that would not best describe your talents, so again i apologize.
But to this day there is still no fix on the face import bug, despite numerous posts from Bioware officials claiming otherwise.
EA Tech Support has offered me two solutions to this problem. One being that i use a PC mod, despite me telling them i am on a console, and do not feel i should spend another 20$ on a USB. And secondly, To delete my save files and start from scratch.

As i mentioned above and through out my intentions are never to offend, and for that i am truly sorry.
I just feel as someone who has invested quite a lot of money into your game and the series, and have now waited patiently over 7 months i should have recieved the product i paid for.

thank you for your time, and thank you for caring.

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Ernest Tse

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RebelTitan428 wrote...

Ernest Tse wrote...

RebelTitan428 wrote...

ok, i just wanted to clear this up.


Bioware, you have just banned another 731 people from multiplayer.
by doing so you have essentially banned them from your game, as we all know the only replayability is in the MP.

you've likely banned at least that amount in the previous patches as all your more recent patches aimed to rid the game of these game exploits.

so we'll say roughly 2000 people have been banned from MP, and my guess getting rid of the game itself soon followed.

you've lost many, many fans over the fact that the game is incomplete, poorly developed, and an ending filled with unoriginal ideas taken from other sci-fi works.

i'm guessing in the coming weeks more people will be banned for cheating, more people will get rid of their copies because like i said above the game is incomplete, poorly developed, and has the worst ending in gaming.

then there are people like me, who bought ME1 on release day, loved it, and moved on to ME2, enjoyed it, then bought ME3. Where we were disoppointed beyond words. And with each passing day, we care even less, and with continued business practices that are borderline pathetic.


day by day your fanbase shrinks, and your only solution is to ban people for exploiting game mechanics your developers are to lazy to fix.

maybe instead of making new MP character, or new MP maps, or new Hazards or new weapons, or some stupid SP DLC or the N7 HQ, you should fix the issues that already exist.

if you dont want people to cheat, dont give them the tools to do so.
you allowed the game to be sold with these problems, and i think it's time you fix them


It's unfortunate that you feel this way, but it offends me that you are so quick to undermine all the hard work put into the Mass Effect franchise from all the people here at BioWare. Please don't be so quick to judge when you've only seen the unsightly cracks at the tip of the iceberg.

Also, you (and many others) seem to assume that we exclusively ban people for missile glitching. NOT TRUE. There are those who change game files, whether downloading certain programs, digging into the game files, or making programs of their own, to give themselves an unfair advantage and ultimately terribly ruining not only the multiplayer experience, but potentially breaking certain components of the game for many others. We do not have direct control (no pun intended) of these cheater's actions and fixing the glitches won't affect their behaviour in the game.

In my honest opinion, which doesn't neccessarily represent BioWare's point of view, creating more single player and multiplayer content has the ability to positively affect 100% of the player base for ME3 (all who chooses to participate) and keeps the game fresh and exciting, whereas dealing with cheaters and glitchers will affect only those who are unlucky enough to come across them. Not saying that cheaters and glitchers aren't a problem (thats why I'm here), but these kinds of in-game behaviour is hard to avoid and should not be left alone.

Even though you are entitled to have your opinions and arguments, at least have the decency to make them more constructive and not base them on misinformed assumptions. But if it was your goal to offend me, job well done.




it is not, nor was it my intention to offend.
so regarding that i apologize.

Now i do not work in gaming, nor do i work in business, so to say my assumptions are misinformed would be correct. But one thing i am is a customer.
So i have to ask, how would you feel if you spent $80 on something full of errors.
Would you purchse a book if it were missing chapters?
would you purchase a computer if you knew it did not perform the functions as advertised.

perhaps lazy was a strong word, and perhaps it is an word that would not best describe your talents, so again i apologize.
But to this day there is still no fix on the face import bug, despite numerous posts from Bioware officials claiming otherwise.
EA Tech Support has offered me two solutions to this problem. One being that i use a PC mod, despite me telling them i am on a console, and do not feel i should spend another 20$ on a USB. And secondly, To delete my save files and start from scratch.

As i mentioned above and through out my intentions are never to offend, and for that i am truly sorry.
I just feel as someone who has invested quite a lot of money into your game and the series, and have now waited patiently over 7 months i should have recieved the product i paid for.

thank you for your time, and thank you for caring.


Firstly, comparing game errors to a book missing pages...lets not even go there since its arguing apples and oranges.

Secondly, "full of errors" is a bit extreme, I admit there are errors, but the amount of stuff that works properly in the game heavily outweighs these errors. It would actually be more accurate to say the game is "full of technical correctness".

Thirdly, I don't see how being a customer makes it okay to behave immaturely (unless of course you are actually a kid, then I guess it would be somewhat acceptable).

Furthermore, I would assume you've completed the single player campaign even if your Shepard's face was not how you liked it (correct me if I'm wrong, potentially you could've just jumped on the ban wagon of hating ME3's ending without actually playing it), and you also have access to multiplayer (unless you've been banned for cheating). Given this information, you would also have access to all the free Multiplayer DLC and the weekend challenges/events. Plus, you are a part of the BSN community and have access to the N7HQ. If you still feel like you haven't got your money's worth after all this (which you yourself have listed by the way), then you have to actually start playing the game you bought or stop setting impossible expectations then hating BioWare for it.

I would imagine there will be even less people playing the game if, like you desire, all this new content wasn't created, but have perfectly patched all the bugs in the game. Heck even the missile glitchers won't play since there won't be anything new to unlock. Moreover, simply suggesting for BioWare to just focus on fixing the bugs is so selfish and self centered. I would like to stress my point earlier that releasing new content will give something new to 100% of the player base that are able and willing to participate and fixing bugs will only satisfy those who unfortunately comes accross them, are bothered by them and/or exploits them. Its also not like we ignore the bugs entirely either.

Lastly, this forum is about bans and ban waves, single player bugs and EA Customer Support comments go elsewhere.

I have to say though, this rant is not completely directed at you personally. It is more directed at the people like you, who seem to dwell on some of the negative aspects of the game and make insulting comments based on incorrect or false information. These kinds of inconsiderate, disrespectful and immature behaviour is what ultimately makes it hard for BioWare employees (like me and likely many others) to be motivated into socializing with fans through these forums.

Modifié par Ernest Tse, 02 novembre 2012 - 04:58 .