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[CronicleChicken]

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

No one is to blame for another person's behavior. Bioware is not responsible for others behaviour ad has every right to ban them for thos specific behaviour,However I think it is too harsh to ban people for cheating, bioware should have every right to do it though.
Also people might not believe in teamwork and honesty, that doesn't give anyone the right to punish them.

If Bioware is not responsible for their behavior, what makes them responsible for their gameplay? There are a few flaws in that statement because it is the responsibility of both.  

[Mat Blad]

Bioware only has the right to ban who they think are 'cheaters' because THEY MADE IT their right, not because its the right thing to do. That's the point.

If you know your cheating, you deserve to be punished, heck you deserve to be banned. But there needs to be more moderation for those that fall into the grey area, who end up in a situation where they unknowingly take advantage from an unintentional glitch. Its happened to me before, before I heard of this banning policy, now I fear if it happens again they'll think I'm doing it on purpose.

[I Am Robot]

Mat Blad wrote...

Bioware only has the right to ban who they think are 'cheaters' because THEY MADE IT their right, not because its the right thing to do. That's the point.

They have the right to impose limitations to the use of their product and in this case this is the limitation they have put in place.

Modifié par Farid-Yoda-N7, 07 décembre 2012 - 11:34 .

[I Am Robot]

Mat Blad wrote...


If you know your cheating, you deserve to be punished, heck you deserve to be banned. But there needs to be more moderation for those that fall into the grey area, who end up in a situation where they unknowingly take advantage from an unintentional glitch. Its happened to me before, before I heard of this banning policy, now I fear if it happens again they'll think I'm doing it on purpose.

How does banning people help the game? if a warning will stop people form cheating why ban them and decrease the size of the player base?  

[I Am Robot]

CronicleChicken wrote...

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

No one is to blame for another person's behavior. Bioware is not responsible for others behaviour ad has every right to ban them for thos specific behaviour,However I think it is too harsh to ban people for cheating, bioware should have every right to do it though.
Also people might not believe in teamwork and honesty, that doesn't give anyone the right to punish them.

If Bioware is not responsible for their behavior, what makes them responsible for their gameplay? There are a few flaws in that statement because it is the responsibility of both.  

Bioware does not make any legal promise that their product will be perfect or that there will not be any technical issues that can be used to play the game in a manner that it was not supposed to be played. However it does make a demand, and it has the right to demand, that people not exploit these technical issues. 

Modifié par Farid-Yoda-N7, 07 décembre 2012 - 08:06 .

[Okovani Prometei]

I didn't read through all 15 pages so if this has been already answered, forgive me for asking again. Just now I joined a modified game where when you throw 25 or so cluster grenades at the cost of 1. Threw it once and it cleared the whole spawn which resulted in killstreak medal lol and I also got grenade damage challenges done which I didn't want to. I quit the game immidiately after that. Question: will there be any consequences for me?

[Grzlar]

Okovani Prometei wrote...

I didn't read through all 15 pages so if this has been already answered, forgive me for asking again. Just now I joined a modified game where when you throw 25 or so cluster grenades at the cost of 1. Threw it once and it cleared the whole spawn which resulted in killstreak medal lol and I also got grenade damage challenges done which I didn't want to. I quit the game immidiately after that. Question: will there be any consequences for me?

Yes, we ll shoot you at the centar square after the weekends challenge 

[Mat Blad]

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

Mat Blad wrote...


If you know your cheating, you deserve to be punished, heck you deserve to be banned. But there needs to be more moderation for those that fall into the grey area, who end up in a situation where they unknowingly take advantage from an unintentional glitch. Its happened to me before, before I heard of this banning policy, now I fear if it happens again they'll think I'm doing it on purpose.

How does banning people help the game? if a warning will stop people form cheating why ban them and decrease the size of the player base?  

I'm all for people being warned before being banned, but some people wont head the warning and cheat all day long. I stopped playing CS:S back in the day when everyone started cheating and Valve did nothing about it, playing fairly became pointless, even if they where on your side. On ME3 at the minute its not too bad because there are very few cheaters, I've only ever seen one (and he didnt score very well). But if banning was removed altogether, then things would get worse. Thats when the player base gets decreased.

I absolutely believe people should be warned first, but remember a warning will give them a *chance* to stop, cant guarentee that they will listen. Thats when the ban should come into play.

[N7MassEffectN7]

Mat Blad wrote...

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

Mat Blad wrote...


If you know your cheating, you deserve to be punished, heck you deserve to be banned. But there needs to be more moderation for those that fall into the grey area, who end up in a situation where they unknowingly take advantage from an unintentional glitch. Its happened to me before, before I heard of this banning policy, now I fear if it happens again they'll think I'm doing it on purpose.

How does banning people help the game? if a warning will stop people form cheating why ban them and decrease the size of the player base?  

I'm all for people being warned before being banned, but some people wont head the warning and cheat all day long. I stopped playing CS:S back in the day when everyone started cheating and Valve did nothing about it, playing fairly became pointless, even if they where on your side. On ME3 at the minute its not too bad because there are very few cheaters, I've only ever seen one (and he didnt score very well). But if banning was removed altogether, then things would get worse. Thats when the player base gets decreased.

I absolutely believe people should be warned first, but remember a warning will give them a *chance* to stop, cant guarentee that they will listen. Thats when the ban should come into play.

Ban Wave 6 когда. ?  (11/14) 12 12

P.S у мя поподался 1 мошейник Рокетный збой Platina !
докозаельство есть Скриншот.


I absolutely believe people should be warned first, but remember a warning will> one 1 raz . Downi  v BAN akaunt.

[DragonRacer]

Okovani Prometei wrote...

I didn't read through all 15 pages so if this has been already answered, forgive me for asking again. Just now I joined a modified game where when you throw 25 or so cluster grenades at the cost of 1. Threw it once and it cleared the whole spawn which resulted in killstreak medal lol and I also got grenade damage challenges done which I didn't want to. I quit the game immidiately after that. Question: will there be any consequences for me?

You will be fine. BioWare has said before that you can actually complete the match if you are worried about having wasted the equipment you put on in the lobby. Just as long as you leave that lobby immediately afterwards and do not play with the cheater again.

The ones they're going after are the cheaters themselves and those who park themselves in the lobby and repeatedly benefit from the cheater.

[Okovani Prometei]

DragonRacer wrote...

Okovani Prometei wrote...

I didn't read through all 15 pages so if this has been already answered, forgive me for asking again. Just now I joined a modified game where when you throw 25 or so cluster grenades at the cost of 1. Threw it once and it cleared the whole spawn which resulted in killstreak medal lol and I also got grenade damage challenges done which I didn't want to. I quit the game immidiately after that. Question: will there be any consequences for me?

You will be fine. BioWare has said before that you can actually complete the match if you are worried about having wasted the equipment you put on in the lobby. Just as long as you leave that lobby immediately afterwards and do not play with the cheater again.

The ones they're going after are the cheaters themselves and those who park themselves in the lobby and repeatedly benefit from the cheater.

Thanks man.

[cers001]

Jamofend I agree and you know I think the credits from MP are awareded properly per difficulty except the platinum which I think the credits should be increased to 300 -> 350,000 cause the amount of stuff you need to use in thoes chease nightmares is worth something more than 275,000

[I Am Robot]

Mat Blad wrote...

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

Mat Blad wrote...


If you know your cheating, you deserve to be punished, heck you deserve to be banned. But there needs to be more moderation for those that fall into the grey area, who end up in a situation where they unknowingly take advantage from an unintentional glitch. Its happened to me before, before I heard of this banning policy, now I fear if it happens again they'll think I'm doing it on purpose.

How does banning people help the game? if a warning will stop people form cheating why ban them and decrease the size of the player base?  

I'm all for people being warned before being banned, but some people wont head the warning and cheat all day long. I stopped playing CS:S back in the day when everyone started cheating and Valve did nothing about it, playing fairly became pointless, even if they where on your side. On ME3 at the minute its not too bad because there are very few cheaters, I've only ever seen one (and he didnt score very well). But if banning was removed altogether, then things would get worse. Thats when the player base gets decreased.

I absolutely believe people should be warned first, but remember a warning will give them a *chance* to stop, cant guarentee that they will listen. Thats when the ban should come into play.

That's what I'm saying too, warn first and then if that doesn't work ban.

[CronicleChicken]

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

CronicleChicken wrote...

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

No one is to blame for another person's behavior. Bioware is not responsible for others behaviour ad has every right to ban them for thos specific behaviour,However I think it is too harsh to ban people for cheating, bioware should have every right to do it though. 
Also people might not believe in teamwork and honesty, that doesn't give anyone the right to punish them.

If Bioware is not responsible for their behavior, what makes them responsible for their gameplay? There are a few flaws in that statement because it is the responsibility of both.  

Bioware does not make any legal promise that their product will be perfect or that there will not be any technical issues that can be used to play the game in a manner that it was not supposed to be played. However it does make a demand, and it has the right to demand, that people not exploit these technical issues. 

I guess the point I'm trying to make is this: missile glitching is mostly referred to as cheating. It's not a glitch anymore. It's a bannable offense, not a fixable glitch. As a glitch needing fixing, it's understood as a part of the game that wasn't intended and players could do it but its cheap and frowned upon. As a bannable offense, it's a part of the game (intended or not) and its the player's fault (intended or not) if done. There is where I have a problem. Does the Vorcha glitch fall under the same category as the missile glitch? According to everyone quoting or linking the ToS to their posts, yeah. Does it still happen? Very rarely, but according to the ToS, it's my fault I do it (intentional or not) so I either report myself before Bioware gets to me cause if I get banned, well it's too late then. See where I'm going with this? Bioware is fixing their game by slapping in their ToS that any unfair advantage (basically any glitch that gives the player, not the computer, an unfair advantage) that is found is to be reported and is bannable if purposefully used. 

I don't mind a glitch being reported or even fixed. I do mind when a glitch (especially one I didn't make of plan to use) I find, or find another way to do, and I could be punished for it because, and only because, it's not my game and they can do whatever with their game. And instead of spending time to fix the glitch, they split it to ban people who use it instead of making it so that no one can use it. That's my problem. 

Modifié par CronicleChicken, 07 décembre 2012 - 11:11 .

[ka243]

In a game right now in fb hydra with 2 cheaters staying in the waterfall and not coming down. Most boring game ever. Please fix this glitch!!!!!

[jp_rsardeto]

I have a question. Is it possible for a person to get banned for doing a single solo platinum game using the missile glitch?

[Red Panda]

jp_rsardeto wrote...

I have a question. Is it possible for a person to get banned for doing a single solo platinum game using the missile glitch?

No, hiding the rocket launcher is only visual.

Actually using unlimited missiles is bannable however. Do not do it.

[CronicleChicken]

OperatingWookie wrote...

jp_rsardeto wrote...

I have a question. Is it possible for a person to get banned for doing a single solo platinum game using the missile glitch?

No, hiding the rocket launcher is only visual.

Actually using unlimited missiles is bannable however. Do not do it.

They'll take your game privileges away...

[SeijiTataki]

:| Apparently they do banning outside of the ban waves, and for people who are just hitting up random lobbies, because I now no longer have access to MP, and I am getting zero responses back from EA Support for the cause and no response back from the Account Status. So I guess I'm locked out of the event and am not being told why.

[Mat Blad]

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

Mat Blad wrote...

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

Mat Blad wrote...


If you know your cheating, you deserve to be punished, heck you deserve to be banned. But there needs to be more moderation for those that fall into the grey area, who end up in a situation where they unknowingly take advantage from an unintentional glitch. Its happened to me before, before I heard of this banning policy, now I fear if it happens again they'll think I'm doing it on purpose.

How does banning people help the game? if a warning will stop people form cheating why ban them and decrease the size of the player base?  

I'm all for people being warned before being banned, but some people wont head the warning and cheat all day long. I stopped playing CS:S back in the day when everyone started cheating and Valve did nothing about it, playing fairly became pointless, even if they where on your side. On ME3 at the minute its not too bad because there are very few cheaters, I've only ever seen one (and he didnt score very well). But if banning was removed altogether, then things would get worse. Thats when the player base gets decreased.

I absolutely believe people should be warned first, but remember a warning will give them a *chance* to stop, cant guarentee that they will listen. Thats when the ban should come into play.

That's what I'm saying too, warn first and then if that doesn't work ban.

Aha, I'm glad we're on the same page 

[Upfunkt]

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

Mat Blad wrote...

I'm all for people being warned before being banned, but some people wont head the warning and cheat all day long. I stopped playing CS:S back in the day when everyone started cheating and Valve did nothing about it, playing fairly became pointless, even if they where on your side. On ME3 at the minute its not too bad because there are very few cheaters, I've only ever seen one (and he didnt score very well). But if banning was removed altogether, then things would get worse. Thats when the player base gets decreased.

I absolutely believe people should be warned first, but remember a warning will give them a *chance* to stop, cant guarentee that they will listen. Thats when the ban should come into play.

That's what I'm saying too, warn first and then if that doesn't work ban.

A probationary period is not feasable. From what I understand, the MP development team is understaffed. There's no logic in them handing out warnings to cheaters when it takes considerable time and effort to gather data to confirm that the reports are true. If they did receive some kind of warning, are BioWare really going to check the after match statistics of 731 players every day to ensure they aren't exploiting this glitch?
In my honest opinion, banning them does not do more harm than good. Most of the glitchers I've come across know what they're doing and won't stop. They need to be shown that this behavior is not tolerated.
The only other alternative is to give them a credit wipe and remove all of their uncommon, rare and ultra rare weapons, characters and gear.... and reset their common weapons back to tier 1. And their N7 rating.... and.... you know what? Just take everything away from them. Make them start over again. If that task is too daunting, then they can still leave on their own accord.

[ryla1976]

seen this happen today on pc


not the first time either..

[ka243]

jp_rsardeto wrote...

I have a question. Is it possible for a person to get banned for doing a single solo platinum game using the missile glitch?

Missile glitching relies on lag.  Its not possible to do as a solo player.

[serialkicker]

Wait, people cheat in pve mp? How sad is that? Looks like some people can't enjoy a game if they're not the best of the best of the best of the absolutely best.

[N7MassEffectN7]

ryla1976 wrote...

seen this happen today on pc


not the first time either..

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