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Ban Wave 5 - Oct 19th, 2012


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ErrorTagUnknown wrote...
Maxing ultra rares is just a matter of time with PSPs.... 

Fixed! :devil:

ErrorTagUnknown wrote...

if you cheat in private - i don't really give a crap.  if you cheat in a public game... you're being rude and inconsiderate to three other people who want to enjoy the game.   If you're just in it for pretend money to get pretend items..... why are you wasting your time playing it?

^^ THIS ^^

Before platinum difficulty came along it was nigh on impossible to go into a public gold game without seeing someone off host packing an obvious glitch weapon and no consumbable gear.

I don't play platinum with randoms, so I never see them any more, but I don't need much imagination to appreciate how bad it has been.

Volkai7 wrote...

And people only speed because speed limits are too low, right?

Doesn't make it okay to go 40 in a 25.

Not that I'm trying to defend glitchers in any way, but this hardly seems like a fair comparison as cheating a computer game is hardly running a risk of seriously injuring or even killing somebody.

Given the the previous point about glitching in public as opposed to private matches, I think a more appropriate analogy would have to do with what happens between two consenting adults in the privacy of their bedroom is all well and good, but not necessarily appropriate behaviour whilst they're in the middle of the street!

k1ngl1ves wrote...

Why is the N7 #1 in the world still there(XBOX)? I personally sent an email with pics about him. I am starting to wonder if these ban waves are really just bullsh*t. I'm sure there were others that turned him in. No one climbs rank as fast as he did.

I have to admit I did wonder about that person as they went rocketing past me on the leaderboards during a time that I was playing for several hours every day.

One of my regular team mates also happened to notice and mentioned it to me one time and relayed a rumour he'd heard that, even when a person gets banned, their gamertag isn't removed from the leaderboards. However, this comment...

Ernest Tse wrote...

We wish to keep Mass Effect 3’s ... leaderboards legitimate.

...seems to be at odds with that claim.

I would very much appreciate it if Ernest (or another moderator) could confirm or deny this rumour and, in the case of a confirmation, perhaps make some comment upon the logic behind people being banned for cheating not also being removed from "legitimate" leaderboards.

Modifié par Oz not Ozzy, 20 octobre 2012 - 06:31 .


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ProtheanN7

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they deserve it

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I love these posts! They always remind me of how great it feels to flush a massive Del Taco induced emergency down the drain without getting any clogs!

A+

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AdrynBliss wrote...

jerrmy12 wrote...

o btw, way to make the playerbase smaller, and don't give me "they cheated" crap, people only glitch bc how ****Ed up the store is.


there's a sharp knife in my kitchen that means i have to go stab people......um no, these people, and i'm guessing yourself, knew the action they took was against the rules, the spirit of the game and morally wrong and they did it anyway, they made a concious choice to cheat and are now being punished for it.


Sharp knife what? It doesn't compare. People steal food only because they are starving and don't have any money to buy any is closer to what he is saying than that sharp knife thing... I don't know what you were thinking there...

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ProtheanN7 wrote...

they deserve it


We deserve a decent mp

Just saying...

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CronicleChicken wrote...

AdrynBliss wrote...

jerrmy12 wrote...

o btw, way to make the playerbase smaller, and don't give me "they cheated" crap, people only glitch bc how ****Ed up the store is.


there's a sharp knife in my kitchen that means i have to go stab people......um no, these people, and i'm guessing yourself, knew the action they took was against the rules, the spirit of the game and morally wrong and they did it anyway, they made a concious choice to cheat and are now being punished for it.


Sharp knife what? It doesn't compare. People steal food only because they are starving and don't have any money to buy any is closer to what he is saying than that sharp knife thing... I don't know what you were thinking there...


Except that a hypothetical cheater isn't going to die just because they don't receive the items they wanted and/or they get banned from a game. If you're going to jump on someone for using a gross hyperbole, don't attempt to one-up them in your reply.

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I forgot everything on the internet is taken too literally and then your insulted for it instead of the principle of the 'gross hyperbole' simply being acknowledged. There was a thing, it could be used for something and some people specifically choose to use it in a way they knew it wasn't intended for, knowing it was wrong to do so, how bout that.

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Had a glitcher(i think?) in a game yesterday . 3 of us in game, i joined about wave 3 or 4, could have sworn there was a 4th person in there too?!!

Kept getting assists on kills at a spawn point when the 2 other ppl where on the other side of the map tackling the other spawn point? Seen the occasional BP appear out of thin air beside me, was weird. A bit creepy too tbh. :/

As i said, 3ppl in game right up to (partial) extraction, all 3 'visible' players in circle, so i'm not sure if i was seeing things or the glitcher left b4 or wasnt paying attention at the end. But something or someone was blocking the 4th player slot?

My question is this, i joined with some serious consumables that i didn't want to waste (phasic 3, etc), so once extraction was complete , i left immediately. Does this make me guilty by association? I was not cheating (dont know how and wouldn't if i did) and as i said above, i might have been seeing things. Couldn't see their name so cant report them obviousl

Anyone ever seen this?

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ErrorTagUnknown wrote...

jerrmy12 wrote...

o btw, way to make the playerbase smaller, and don't give me "they cheated" crap, people only glitch bc how ****Ed up the store is.



way to give people named Jeremy a bad name.

No.... they really don't.   the store isn't even really that bad.  so it's a random store.  you don't need maxed out gear to play the game.   my lvl 1 saber still kicks butt.   Maxing rares is just a matter of time with PSPs....  you can see mine... all maxed up until this DLC - and the new rares will be maxed soon....  it's really not all that bad.


I don't condone cheaters in any way shape or form.

But yes, the store really is that bad.

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Saltyballz81 wrote...

My question is this, i joined with some serious consumables that i didn't want to waste (phasic 3, etc), so once extraction was complete , i left immediately. Does this make me guilty by association?

Can't really speak to the rest of your questions, though it doesn't sound like any exploit I've ever heard of.

However, the Bioware stance on being in a game with a Missile Glitcher has always been that you are entitled to see the game out so you get something back for your consumables, but that you should not continue to play with the glitcher, either by leaving the lobby or, if the rest of the team want to stay together, kicking the offending player... I wouldn't imagine them having any different attitude to any other glitch/exploit... so you should be fine.

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As wonderful it is to be rid of the bosh'tets, when are we going to get a patch to fix the glitches?

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Its nice, but I'm playing on PC from day 1, have nearly maxed out manifest, and I haven't seen ONE cheater...expect 2 people running with pizza ( I hope thats not bannable)

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Thanks for the hard work, Bioware. The glitches will eventually be fixed. Remember how it was impossible to play Vanguards in some locations? There is no excuse to cheat in a public game with others.

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.....Justice.....>.<

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As a former police officer,I ran into people who broke the rules all the time. And the one overarching truism that all these people had in common was their narcissistic sense of victimization. Their actions were always the result of someone and/or something's else's causation. They never accepted responsibility for their actions and never showed any remorse. Just like the cheaters ****ing here on this forum. And yes, I did just compare video game cheaters to criminals. Because criminality is a personality mindset and character defect. And rather it is breaking a traffic law, stealing another's property, or even cheating in a video game so as to gain easy credits to get items from the store that is not deserved, there is not fundamental difference. From a personality stand point that is. And even from a legal standpoint. Cheating to gain undeserved credits is nothing more then a soft core form of theft.

Jerramie :police:

Modifié par Jerramie, 20 octobre 2012 - 02:03 .


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Somehow the biggest cheats fall through the cracks. this one has 150mil credits in the bank, but a mere 330h playtime and a maxed manifest. next one: 40mil in the bank, 340h played, maxed manifest (granted, this might work if you paid for your manifest with real money and only played for the fun of it). next one 360h played, maxed manifest, 42mil in the bank, >32k (!) challenge points. And these are the most obvious ones from the top leaderboard you can get by simply clicking through their profiles in a matter of minutes.

Modifié par Siran, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:07 .


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Jamofend wrote...

Thanks 731 less people to ruin the game.



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RUSSIAN.
:police::police::police: Hаконецто 5 волна запретов :police::police::police:

у мя  тоже поподались игроки с песконечнами патрономи :blink:  я пресек в начале игры и Вышел из игры !  не чесно !!! :police:.

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N7MassEffectN7 wrote...

RUSSIAN.
:police::police::police: Hаконецто 5 волна запретов :police::police::police:

у мя  тоже поподались игроки с песконечнами патрономи :blink:  я пресек в начале игры и Вышел из игры !  не чесно !!! :police:.


Speak English! I do not know if Bioware forums have a translator function. Or stop being silly by posting a rant in a foreign language few on this forum can translate. Honestly what is it with some people thinking that just because they have a program that posts message in a different language that they are cool????? Not saying that this is the case in this incident. Just sayin is all.

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N7MassEffectN7 wrote...

RUSSIAN.
:police::police::police: Hаконецто 5 волна запретов :police::police::police:

у мя  тоже поподались игроки с песконечнами патрономи :blink:  я пресек в начале игры и Вышел из игры !  не чесно !!! :police:.

In soviet russia, cheater bans you!

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Google Translator for the rest of us... who do not speak Russian ;)

"y name is also popodalis players peskonechnami patronomi I clamped down early in the game and came out of the game! not honestly! ."

*Edit*  ...whatever the hell this means.   :blink:

Modifié par Stinger14s, 20 octobre 2012 - 04:37 .


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If the team wants to keep the laderboard legit they should start to remove these guys

http://social.biowar...hsf&platform=pc


http://social.biowar...250&platform=pc

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CronicleChicken wrote...
We deserve a decent mp

Just saying...


It is decent though... either way, if you think it's not or think you have to cheat ot make it decent, why would you even play it ?

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BetrayerOfNihil wrote...

Show them no quartet.


LUL

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Oz not Ozzy wrote...

Saltyballz81 wrote...

My question is this, i joined with some serious consumables that i didn't want to waste (phasic 3, etc), so once extraction was complete , i left immediately. Does this make me guilty by association?

Can't really speak to the rest of your questions, though it doesn't sound like any exploit I've ever heard of.

However, the Bioware stance on being in a game with a Missile Glitcher has always been that you are entitled to see the game out so you get something back for your consumables, but that you should not continue to play with the glitcher, either by leaving the lobby or, if the rest of the team want to stay together, kicking the offending player... I wouldn't imagine them having any different attitude to any other glitch/exploit... so you should be fine.


that's their stance.  you leave you're fine.  you didn't know when you joined - not your fault.   you don't have to blow your gear because of bad luck

now --- that's not somebody glitching.   i've seen it happen plenty.   it's certainly the game wigging out - but nobody is doing anything intentionally.   joined a gold game, wave 3.  It was me and one other guy.   later two people (apparently) joined.  i couldn't see them.  i couldn't see them in the leaderboard.. i couldn't see them in the kill feed.  the only reason i knew they were there was (A) things would die with no obvious cause... and (B) i would hear the announcer saying "squad member down" when neither myself nor the other guy was down....
not a deliberate glitch.  doesn't provide an advantage to anybody...   it's just the game not communicating things properly