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Does anyone get the impression people want Dragon Age III to suck?


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#51
MushroomMagic

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hhh89 wrote...

MushroomMagic wrote...

Is David Gaider going to be writing the story for Dragon Age III?


He's the lead writer of DA3, yes.


That's good.  Dragon Age Origins has a really good plot and both games have good characters.

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He also was head writer for DA2 as well, yes ? That plot .... wasn't so good.

Modifié par Hurbster, 20 octobre 2012 - 01:05 .


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No. I see ppl desperately hoping BW makes an amazing game.

And pirates are gonna pirate. They don't need friggin' reason. Ppl that don't like ME3, don't like it because they don't like it. Just the way you like it because you like it. Yay for you. Jazz hands all around.

But don't insult ppl by calling them "neck bearded virgins"--which only shows you have no idea who you're talking to--because they like a feature you don't personally care for.

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I don't think people are wanting it to be bad. People are expecting it to be bad, because Bioware stumbled pretty badly with DA2.

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I'm surprisingly excited for DA3 despite the atrocity that was DA2 lol...seriously though i'm hoping they learned from their mistakes and hopefully they have given up on their ridiculous idea to attract the COD crowd.I mean whats the point of trying to appease people who have most likely never heard of you and don't care about your games.Why try to appease and attract them when you have your own fans who love(loved lol) your games and respect(respected XD)all the hard work you put into making them.
P.S. ME3 was meh it would have been a pretty good game but the ending(shudders),it is definitely the worst ME game,it's not as good as ME2 and shouldn't even be compared to ME1...DA:O awesome nuff said,DA2 man dumbed down combat and RPG elements,redesigned Elves and Darkspawn looked awful,the Qunari looked awesome though just add more variety to their character models.Returning characters looked awful,and I also hated how the women stood and ran,WTF are they posing for a damn camera or something >:( Story was interesting though especially with the Qunari,but the Mage and Templar thing got really old and boring really fast.
P.P.S. EA sucks...I would say something involving the F word but I don't want to risk being Kicked from this site :)

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Who honestly wants Inquisition to suck? I don't think that's the case. A lot of people are expecting Inquistion to suck, but that's an entirely seperate issue. One that some would say is completely justified.

Bioware is capable of crafting amazingly rich stories, we all know that, but DA2 lacked the depth Origins had. Yes, you can call that an opinion, but it happens to be the opinion of the creative director of the DA series, which tends to give it a little more legitimacy than if I (or any number of posters) said it. So when Laidlaw admitted at PAX East that DA2 lacked the depth of Origins, it's only human nature to stop and think, "Well... is that going to happen again? Will each new DA have less and less richness, quality and depth in it than the previous installment?"

It's not an unfair question, and the worry that Inquisition will suck is, like I said, not entirely unjustified.

Modifié par Scarlet Rabbi, 20 octobre 2012 - 01:27 .


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I certainly do not want DA3 to "suck;" but as of right now, I am not certain that the dev's have fully appreciated why I and a lot of others, were "less than enthusiastic" about DA2.

And for the record, the argument "They didn't have enough time..." is not a good one. DA2 suffered from way too many unnecessary changes (art design, mutant elves, parachuting ninja's, and a story that was chopped up, etc.). If they did not have the time, they should not have made the changes.

The little we have heard thus far has not been greatly encouraging. Bioware still seems committed to removing our ability to equip our companions the way we want. And with the new Frostbite engine, the likelihood of being able to mod the game is in serious doubt. For us PC gamers, it looks as if we won't even be able to change the things that we really dislike. I'm a sad panda on that one...

I sincerely hope that the next installment will blow me away with rich characters, an engrossing story, incredible graphics and a more "tactical" combat system. But DA2 and ME3 were the first Bioware games that left me "unsatisfied." I refuse to buy any ME3 DLC because of the ending.

But hope was the last thing that crawled out of Pandora's box. I am not ready to give up on them yet. She may be bruised, battered and struggling to crawl over the rim but maybe she can make it out and DA3 will be the kind of game that we all want it to be.

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I still want to see some gameplay and stuff before decidinf whether or not this game deserves a pre order.

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Nobody wants Inquisition to suck except the trolls and psychotics... most of which will not crawl out the woodwork until the game is near release.

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As someone said pirates will pirate. They don't need an excuse. Furthermore calling people who disagree with some/many game design choices/direction pirates..is in rather poor taste. Ubi did that and lost most likely %5 more of the remaining pc base for a total of 95% market share loss.

I hope DA3 is a huge success. I know the team can do it *if* given the time and resources, they are extremely talented people. The *if* is a worry. Ea's track record is the reason for this worry.

Also there are quite a few people who were disappointed in DA2, ME3 and SWToR. That's 3 strikes in many people's books. Some will come back, some...won't.

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FieryDove wrote...

As someone said pirates will pirate. They don't need an excuse. Furthermore calling people who disagree with some/many game design choices/direction pirates..is in rather poor taste. Ubi did that and lost most likely %5 more of the remaining pc base for a total of 95% market share loss.

I hope DA3 is a huge success. I know the team can do it *if* given the time and resources, they are extremely talented people. The *if* is a worry. Ea's track record is the reason for this worry.

Also there are quite a few people who were disappointed in DA2, ME3 and SWToR. That's 3 strikes in many people's books. Some will come back, some...won't.



all of these "strikes" came from changing gamestyle in the middle of the series. Kotor 3 got replaced by an mmo. No ending to the story at all. ME turned from an rpg into a shooter with dialogue. DA2 was...dunno...interactive movie + hack and slash and dialogue. You had really no impact on the outcome of the story like you did in the first one. i think this is the key here. People were expecting something, and got something very different.

I am pretty sure DA3 will be a very good game, though.

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MushroomMagic wrote...

I think people just are finding it so hip and trendy to bash EA that they're looking for any excuse to do so.   I think looking at how a great game like Mass Effect 3 gets universally condemned because of it's ending despite the fact that Bioware listened to fan feedback and provided clarification for the ending leads me to believe most Bioware fans like to think they're being victimized by a company that makes a living providing products that entertain people.

EA is not above criticism but I think the sheer level of hatred towards EA is so astronomical that the Bioware fan base has effectively closed their mind, refusing to even give anything a chance.  Rather like young Earth creationist have come to a conclusion first and now are looking for any justification they can find to support their pre-determined conclusion.

Frankly,  I think a lot of people will bash Dragon Age III just so they can give themselves an excuse to pirate the game.  They'll say it sucks and they're so glad they saved their money by pirating it first yet they'll play through the main campaign at least twice.  Maybe a small handful will end up buying it on steam but only once it's for sale for 5 dollars.

I agree with your point 100%, but was totally distracted by the new earth part. Random, much?  Image IPB

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Rawgrim

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People who pirate a game don`t need excuses.

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I really want DA3 to be good and I am really hyped for it. But I hope they don't disappoint like they did with Mass effect 3. I think the main reason I didn't like Mass Effect 3 was because I thought bioware and the series could do no wrong until I actually played mass effect 3 then I was highly disappointed. That is why I refuse to play DA2 & just move on to Dragon Age inquisition.

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Mass Effect 3 had more problems then it's ending. For one thing it was much shorter then the other two games.

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EA is Illuminati, that is why, they are busy forcing Illuminati symbolism in games rather than making good games

If you guys are conspiracy theory type, you guys can see that. They just want the messages come out and people buying their crap

So Bioware is FORCED to fill in loads of Illuminati stuff then release it on schedule, that happen in DA2. DA:O is not so Illuminati-ish, that is why the game is good.

I am not sure if Bioware is Illuminati too, but i am sure Bioware is a tool...

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Depends on who you're talking about...

This forum definitely has trolls.

I don't give a **** who owns Bioware. I'm going to support ANY dev that makes a great game. I don't care what publishing umbrella they sit under. I would hope everyone shares the same sentiment...

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Whether DA3 is a good game really doesn't matter to me since the game is not on my radar and never will be but i hope it turns out great and does well.

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deuce985 wrote...

Depends on who you're talking about...

This forum definitely has trolls.

I don't give a **** who owns Bioware. I'm going to support ANY dev that makes a great game. I don't care what publishing umbrella they sit under. I would hope everyone shares the same sentiment...


I don't share that sentiment sorry.

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People are pissed as hell from the lack of quality in the last couple of titles, to want dragon age to succeed means that I must place my trust in eaware which requires a level of emotional commitment many are unwilling to give for the risk of being disappointed.

Also bioware reputation to deliver high quality games has been in question for a while now

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MushroomMagic wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

I hope it ends up being the best crpg ever made. I doubt it will be, of course, but i am still having hopes.

As for EA getting hatred...its well deserved.


Dragon Age III still deserves a fair chance regardless of what people think of EA.  However, I do not think most fans will do that because they want Dragon Age III to suck because they want to see EA suffer not taking into consideration that it is Bioware who will suffer far worse.


honestly... its in all gamers interest if ea is wiped from the map and its actually worth losing, the now souless, studio bioware to achieve that aim

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Nizaris1 wrote...

EA is Illuminati, that is why, they are busy forcing Illuminati symbolism in games rather than making good games

If you guys are conspiracy theory type, you guys can see that. They just want the messages come out and people buying their crap

So Bioware is FORCED to fill in loads of Illuminati stuff then release it on schedule, that happen in DA2. DA:O is not so Illuminati-ish, that is why the game is good.

I am not sure if Bioware is Illuminati too, but i am sure Bioware is a tool...


:blink:

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I don't understand this hatred of EA and other big publishers, if a game is good then a game is good, I don't give a rats ass on who is publishing it.

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Samudo wrote...

I don't understand this hatred of EA


Then you haven't been a gamer for long. EA has a long and sordid history of acquiring talented studios, forcing rushed development of previously well-regarded titles, and then closing said studios when the quality of their games erode and sales suffer. Putting good developers out of work and ruining IPs that used to be solid gold.

Basically the same thing EA has done to other studios over the last 20 years is now repeating with Bioware. Hence the hate.

Modifié par marshalleck, 20 octobre 2012 - 05:52 .


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I personally don't want DA3 to suck, I actually want it to be great and I feel this is actually a possible scenario.
Mass Effect 3 sequels on the other hand should rot in hell.

Modifié par Zobo, 20 octobre 2012 - 07:56 .