Modifié par FINE HERE, 20 octobre 2012 - 11:34 .
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FINE HERE wrote...
Part of me wants it to fail since I don't think I'll be buying it anyway. (Really? Human only again and a stupid castle to build? Joy of joys!) But just a tiny part, like, 7.3%.
But I would much, much, MUCH rather be pleasantly surprised and find out that DA3 is an amazing game. I liked Bioware's games. I liked NwN, Kotor, DA:O, ME 1 and 2. I wanted DA2 and ME3 to be great, but they were disappointing... While I doubt that DA3 would be amazing, I still really want it to be good.
This combined with the news we have today (no race selection), I think we're both in the same boat.google_calasade wrote...
I don't want it to suck, but neither will I be buying it based on what I've read and learned. The use of Frostbite is encouraging and discouraging at the same time. Better aesthetics, but Frostbite isn't a RPG engine, either, which tells me that unless it's modified, DA III will be more action based than DA II. Inquisition? Who didn't see this coming? More templars and mages. The conflict between them holds little interest for me. If the story were fresh, maybe, maybe I would be interested, though I'm pretty sure they lost me on the Dragon Age series with the travesty that was DA II.
hhh89 wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
LobselVith8 wrote...
MerAnne wrote...
I really really want DA3 to be successful.
From the teasers that have been given out, I am less than hopeful. I'd be thrilled to be wrong, but I don't want to play Chantry against Blood Mages and that sounds like what it is going to be :-(
I think it would be a mistake to force players to be pro-Chantry in Inquisition.
I just wonder how they are going to pull of the Inquisitor thing for players that decide to play as mages.
Simple. Make the Inquisition as a neutral organization. Problem solved.
Knight Templar wrote...
I do see a lot of people talking about the game and they do want it to be bad, they want to buy the game and have it suck.
I don't understand it at all.
I wasn't refering to the BSS.Dr. wonderful wrote...
Knight Templar wrote...
I do see a lot of people talking about the game and they do want it to be bad, they want to buy the game and have it suck.
I don't understand it at all.
This is the BSS, Understanding is chuck out the window and whoever complains the loudest wins.
Dr. wonderful wrote...
Knight Templar wrote...
I do see a lot of people talking about the game and they do want it to be bad, they want to buy the game and have it suck.
I don't understand it at all.
This is the BSS, Understanding is chuck out the window and whoever complains the loudest wins.
Actually, I think the people who want EA to fail want it as a form of "punishment" for their (EA's) poor management decisions.Realmzmaster wrote...
What is the sense is wishing a company would fail? You mean someone is wishing close to 8000 people go unemployed?
The assumption here is that if EA fails somehow the IP's EA holds reverts back to the owners? The IPs remain as assets of the company to be sold at auction with no gurantee that any employees from Bioware would be brought on by the buying company. Also considering how long it takes in the coursts to end a company many of the Bioware employees may already be employed in other capacities.
So I've gotta ask, based on a comment like this, will you even be happy if the next game does well?Farbautisonn wrote...
Nah. Given the trackrecord of Bioware since DA2, I am absolutely positive that the game will fail to deliver on even a fraction of the hype that they are allready trying to build up. They dont really need anyone wanting it to fail. They will "streamline" and "artsy" it to complete and utter failure themselves.
Modifié par nightscrawl, 21 octobre 2012 - 09:14 .
MushroomMagic wrote...
I think people just are finding it so hip and trendy to bash EA that they're looking for any excuse to do so. I think looking at how a great game like Mass Effect 3 gets universally condemned because of it's ending despite the fact that Bioware listened to fan feedback and provided clarification for the ending leads me to believe most Bioware fans like to think they're being victimized by a company that makes a living providing products that entertain people.
EA is not above criticism but I think the sheer level of hatred towards EA is so astronomical that the Bioware fan base has effectively closed their mind, refusing to even give anything a chance. Rather like young Earth creationist have come to a conclusion first and now are looking for any justification they can find to support their pre-determined conclusion.
Frankly, I think a lot of people will bash Dragon Age III just so they can give themselves an excuse to pirate the game. They'll say it sucks and they're so glad they saved their money by pirating it first yet they'll play through the main campaign at least twice. Maybe a small handful will end up buying it on steam but only once it's for sale for 5 dollars.
Allan Schumacher wrote...
FlamingBoy wrote...
MushroomMagic wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
I hope it ends up being the best crpg ever made. I doubt it will be, of course, but i am still having hopes.
As for EA getting hatred...its well deserved.
Dragon Age III still deserves a fair chance regardless of what people think of EA. However, I do not think most fans will do that because they want Dragon Age III to suck because they want to see EA suffer not taking into consideration that it is Bioware who will suffer far worse.
honestly... its in all gamers interest if ea is wiped from the map and its actually worth losing, the now souless, studio bioware to achieve that aim
Hmmm, as a gamer, it'd certainly not be in my best interests to be unemployed as that'd certainly undermine my ability to purchase new games!
Jokes aside, wishing for me and my colleagues to become unemployed isn't really a productive perspective on these forums and I'd encourage those that want to see us burn to just move along since in the long run I can't see much productive coming out of sticking around.
I have no beefs with criticism (no game is perfect). Criticism is okay and encouraged. Coming around to tell me you wish I was out of a job because you think it's in your best interests as a gamer, not so much.
Modifié par MrCrabby, 21 octobre 2012 - 12:09 .
Realmzmaster wrote...
What is the sense is wishing a company would fail? You mean someone is wishing close to 8000 people go unemployed?Adanu wrote...
Allan Schumacher wrote...
FlamingBoy wrote...
MushroomMagic wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
I hope it ends up being the best crpg ever made. I doubt it will be, of course, but i am still having hopes.
As for EA getting hatred...its well deserved.
Dragon Age III still deserves a fair chance regardless of what people think of EA. However, I do not think most fans will do that because they want Dragon Age III to suck because they want to see EA suffer not taking into consideration that it is Bioware who will suffer far worse.
honestly... its in all gamers interest if ea is wiped from the map and its actually worth losing, the now souless, studio bioware to achieve that aim
Hmmm, as a gamer, it'd certainly not be in my best interests to be unemployed as that'd certainly undermine my ability to purchase new games!
Jokes aside, wishing for me and my colleagues to become unemployed isn't really a productive perspective on these forums and I'd encourage those that want to see us burn to just move along since in the long run I can't see much productive coming out of sticking around.
I have no beefs with criticism (no game is perfect). Criticism is okay and encouraged. Coming around to tell me you wish I was out of a job because you think it's in your best interests as a gamer, not so much.
You misunderstood him. He didn't say he wishes you were out of a job. He says he wishes that EA would fail, and unfortunately that would also have the effect of breaking Bioware up if they are intertwined too much.
Considering how completely out of touch with reality the decision makers at EA seem to be, I'm forced to reluctantly agree. There's a reason they're almost universally hated.
The assumption here is that if EA fails somehow the IP's EA holds reverts back to the owners? The IPs remain as assets of the company to be sold at auction with no gurantee that any employees from Bioware would be brought on by the buying company. Also considering how long it takes in the coursts to end a company many of the Bioware employees may already be employed in other capacities.
Also not counting the ripple effect in the industry that it may have. A lot more studios dependent on the EA distribution network may go under.
Gamers may not like the way EA does business, but I do not wish for it to fail. I wish to see Bioware employees continue to be gainful employed making the games I like.
I liked DA2 and the other Bioware games I have played since BG1. EA also has made or published some of my favorite games over the years. Games which would have never seen the light of day from MULE to Archon (1 & 2), Dungeon Keeper, and Zany Golf.
So I do not have a hate for EA. EA is a business. EA makes business decisions. I do not have to like the decisions, but I have no wish for the company to fail.
EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
google_calasade wrote...
I don't want it to suck, but neither will I be buying it based on what I've read and learned. The use of Frostbite is encouraging and discouraging at the same time. Better aesthetics, but Frostbite isn't a RPG engine, either, which tells me that unless it's modified, DA III will be more action based than DA II. Inquisition? Who didn't see this coming? More templars and mages. The conflict between them holds little interest for me. If the story were fresh, maybe, maybe I would be interested, though I'm pretty sure they lost me on the Dragon Age series with the travesty that was DA II.
This combined with the news we have today (no race selection), I think we're both in the same boat.
MushroomMagic wrote...
I think people just are finding it so hip and trendy to bash EA that they're looking for any excuse to do so. I think looking at how a great game like Mass Effect 3 gets universally condemned because of it's ending despite the fact that Bioware listened to fan feedback and provided clarification for the ending leads me to believe most Bioware fans like to think they're being victimized by a company that makes a living providing products that entertain people.
EA is not above criticism but I think the sheer level of hatred towards EA is so astronomical that the Bioware fan base has effectively closed their mind, refusing to even give anything a chance. Rather like young Earth creationist have come to a conclusion first and now are looking for any justification they can find to support their pre-determined conclusion.
Frankly, I think a lot of people will bash Dragon Age III just so they can give themselves an excuse to pirate the game. They'll say it sucks and they're so glad they saved their money by pirating it first yet they'll play through the main campaign at least twice. Maybe a small handful will end up buying it on steam but only once it's for sale for 5 dollars.
MushroomMagic wrote...
I think people just are finding it so hip and trendy to bash EA that they're looking for any excuse to do so. I think looking at how a great game like Mass Effect 3 gets universally condemned because of it's ending despite the fact that Bioware listened to fan feedback and provided clarification for the ending leads me to believe most Bioware fans like to think they're being victimized by a company that makes a living providing products that entertain people.
EA is not above criticism but I think the sheer level of hatred towards EA is so astronomical that the Bioware fan base has effectively closed their mind, refusing to even give anything a chance. Rather like young Earth creationist have come to a conclusion first and now are looking for any justification they can find to support their pre-determined conclusion.
Frankly, I think a lot of people will bash Dragon Age III just so they can give themselves an excuse to pirate the game. They'll say it sucks and they're so glad they saved their money by pirating it first yet they'll play through the main campaign at least twice. Maybe a small handful will end up buying it on steam but only once it's for sale for 5 dollars.
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LobselVith8 wrote...
EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
google_calasade wrote...
I don't want it to suck, but neither will I be buying it based on what I've read and learned. The use of Frostbite is encouraging and discouraging at the same time. Better aesthetics, but Frostbite isn't a RPG engine, either, which tells me that unless it's modified, DA III will be more action based than DA II. Inquisition? Who didn't see this coming? More templars and mages. The conflict between them holds little interest for me. If the story were fresh, maybe, maybe I would be interested, though I'm pretty sure they lost me on the Dragon Age series with the travesty that was DA II.
This combined with the news we have today (no race selection), I think we're both in the same boat.
I'm not certain why the developers decided to limit players to being a human protagonist. Dragon Age can offer players the opportunity to experience Thedas through different cultural lenses, but we're limited to the same one we experienced in Dragon Age II?
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