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[MushroomMagic]

As we saw in Dragon Age:Origins it is possible for individuals to gain power by drinking dragon's blood.  I think it's possible to take this a step further.  In particular, I'm reminded of Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines where drinking vampire blood turns a human into a ghoul who gains some vampire power and becomes addicted to the the substance.

I'm imagining a similar concept with dragon blood except they should take it a bit further.  As we saw with Kolgrim in the Haven Village in Origins, entire cults are formed centered around worshipping dragons, sometimes indirectly by means of perverting their existing faith, similar to Reaper indoctrination one might argue.  I remember the Origins codex stating that a dragon may even willingly offer the blood of her offspring or him/herself for humans to drink.  The blood gives them power as we saw with the Reaver class but I suspect based on the actions of the people at Haven village it also binds them to the Dragon's will.
This could be a survival mechanism of the dragon.  Dragon's were hunted by Nevarrans to the point of near extinction, so using their blood to corrupt the minds of mortal men might be a Dragon's means of surviving by turning their enemies into their servants.
I think we should see Dragon cults return in Dragon Age III but rather than just gaining some acute powers we should see the chronic changes that occur due to binding with a dragon via blood consumption.  I'm thinking actual physical transformation where they begin to lose their humanity and develop draconic features.  Scaled skin, tails, claws, and perhaps the ability to fly or breathe fire.  They could make it so eventually the Dragon blood poisons the mind to the point where it's imbiber begins to forget what it's like to be human, losing the ability to speak in the common tongue and speaking in a new draconic language.
Lizard men would be far stronger than men or even Qunari and could be dedicated solely to restoring the glory to the Dragons, Hell the game IS called "Dragon Age" isn't it?  Since blood seems to play a large role in the Dragon Age games, this could really fit in well I think.

Perhaps Bioware can even make it possible for the player protagonist to become a dragon cultist and develop some draconic features.  Especially if the Dragons have some sort of role or desire of outcome in the templar/mage war.
 

Modifié par MushroomMagic, 20 octobre 2012 - 01:07 .

[Rawgrim]

No. Too WoW, or whatever.

[BlueMagitek]

Ah, but the Old World of Darkness is much different than the world of Dragon Age. There are far fewer demons, werewolves, mummies, prometheans and vampires running around, for one.

While there does seem to be something unique to the blood of dragons, I think Dragon Men is a bit too far to go. After all, Dragons are just reappearing now; if they play their entire hand, we'd have to jump into Griffin Age fairly soon.

[Rawgrim]

Reminds me of the Draconians form Dragonlance. I belive a version of them got copied and pasted into the new edition of D&D as well.

[MushroomMagic]

So a game can have werewolves but not dragon men?  Werewolves are more WOW-like than Dragon men, think of the Worgen.

Modifié par MushroomMagic, 20 octobre 2012 - 01:10 .

[Rawgrim]

MushroomMagic wrote...

So a game can have werewolves but not dragon men?  Werewolves are more WOW-like than Dragon men, think of the Worgen.

Not really. Since the werewolf myth is something thats centuries old.

[MushroomMagic]

Rawgrim wrote...

MushroomMagic wrote...

So a game can have werewolves but not dragon men?  Werewolves are more WOW-like than Dragon men, think of the Worgen.

Not really. Since the werewolf myth is something thats centuries old.

Doesn't make werewolves more plausible.  By saying it's too "WOW-like" I assume you mean it's too high fantasy like but that really is what Dragon Age:Origins is.  Even Conan has lizard people and that's a low fantasy story that draws many parallels to the real world.

[BlueMagitek]

Conan also has many ties to Lovecraft, intentionally. >.>

[DadeLeviathan]

Their minds getting all wonky from drinking the dragon blood is cool, but having them turn into dragon men? No. That's stupid. Some sort of messed-up amalgamation with hideously contorted bodies? That would work in DA:O. Dragon Men ala the lizard men in D&D? no. Just... no.

[Rawgrim]

MushroomMagic wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

MushroomMagic wrote...

So a game can have werewolves but not dragon men?  Werewolves are more WOW-like than Dragon men, think of the Worgen.

Not really. Since the werewolf myth is something thats centuries old.

Doesn't make werewolves more plausible.  By saying it's too "WOW-like" I assume you mean it's too high fantasy like but that really is what Dragon Age:Origins is.  Even Conan has lizard people and that's a low fantasy story that draws many parallels to the real world.

Conan is low fantasy now?

[MushroomMagic]

DadeLeviathan wrote...

Their minds getting all wonky from drinking the dragon blood is cool, but having them turn into dragon men? No. That's stupid. Some sort of messed-up amalgamation with hideously contorted bodies? That would work in DA:O. Dragon Men ala the lizard men in D&D? no. Just... no.

It could be more subtle than that.  Give them draconic looking eyes that glow as if they're imbued with the power of dragon flame, and possibly give them charcoal looking skin that resembles ash.  Possibly sharp teeth as well.  I think something to show the long term effects of draconic corruption would be cool.

[MushroomMagic]

Rawgrim wrote...

MushroomMagic wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

MushroomMagic wrote...

So a game can have werewolves but not dragon men?  Werewolves are more WOW-like than Dragon men, think of the Worgen.

Not really. Since the werewolf myth is something thats centuries old.

Doesn't make werewolves more plausible.  By saying it's too "WOW-like" I assume you mean it's too high fantasy like but that really is what Dragon Age:Origins is.  Even Conan has lizard people and that's a low fantasy story that draws many parallels to the real world.

Conan is low fantasy now?

Pretty sure it has always been unless you're talking about the early 90's cartoon show.

[Rawgrim]

MushroomMagic wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

MushroomMagic wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

MushroomMagic wrote...

So a game can have werewolves but not dragon men?  Werewolves are more WOW-like than Dragon men, think of the Worgen.

Not really. Since the werewolf myth is something thats centuries old.

Doesn't make werewolves more plausible.  By saying it's too "WOW-like" I assume you mean it's too high fantasy like but that really is what Dragon Age:Origins is.  Even Conan has lizard people and that's a low fantasy story that draws many parallels to the real world.

Conan is low fantasy now?

Pretty sure it has always been unless you're talking about the early 90's cartoon show.

i am reffering to the books, and the comics. They started coming out in the 1920s.  The movies has pretty much nothing in common with the original material. it was Conan in name only.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Since I'm already wondering if I'll lose a D&D char to a PK from a half-dragon, I don't think I need it in Dragon Age.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 20 octobre 2012 - 01:42 .

[Maria Caliban]

Conan has never been low fantasy. Low fantasy is fantasy set in modern or historical earth where the fantastic elements are highly unusual or uncommon.

High fantasy is fantasy set in a separate world, a different version of Earth, or the same Earth but with the fantastical elements being commonplace. 'Hidden histories' like Lord of the Rings and Conan that correspond to no known historical time and place, and are full of magic, are high fantasy.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 20 octobre 2012 - 01:48 .

[marshalleck]

Rawgrim wrote...

MushroomMagic wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

MushroomMagic wrote...

So a game can have werewolves but not dragon men?  Werewolves are more WOW-like than Dragon men, think of the Worgen.

Not really. Since the werewolf myth is something thats centuries old.

Doesn't make werewolves more plausible.  By saying it's too "WOW-like" I assume you mean it's too high fantasy like but that really is what Dragon Age:Origins is.  Even Conan has lizard people and that's a low fantasy story that draws many parallels to the real world.

Conan is low fantasy now?

Always has been.

[Maria Caliban]

I think people are conflating 'low fantasy' with 'low magic setting.'

[marshalleck]

Are you sure you're not conflating "low fantasy" with "no magic allowed"?

[Rawgrim]

I think so too. Allthough Conan isn`t really low on magic either. Its abit rarer, but way powerful. Most of the top badguys are wizards or magical beings too. The setting certainly has ALOT of monsters, curses, and loads of unnatural stuff.

[marshalleck]

Well if you really want to nitpick, Conan is "sword and sorcery":

[Maria Caliban]

marshalleck wrote...

Are you sure you're not conflating "low fantasy" with "no magic allowed"?

Hmmm... Is wikipedia a valid source?

marshalleck wrote...

Well if you really want to nitpick, Conan is "sword and sorcery":

^ Agreed.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 20 octobre 2012 - 01:53 .

[Rawgrim]

Sword and Sorcery was the term used before the term Fantasy started getting used as the norm, i belive. Conan is deffinatly not low fantasy, and not too low on magic either. Conan has way more magic in the stories than say...the lord of the rings. Lotrd being regarded as high fantasy. Go figure.

[Eveangaline]

I dunno, it seems like dudes would get screwed in that deal.They'd get scales and maybe tougher, but the ladies would get that and wings.