If you were forced to take one of these, which one would you grab?
Eagle VS Collector SMG
Débuté par
Abramsrunner
, oct. 20 2012 06:08
#1
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:08
#2
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:10
Neither.
#3
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:14
Collector...but not by much.
#4
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:15
Collector. Eagle is made of poo.
#5
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:16
N7 Eagle
It's not nearly as bad as the BSN seems to think with all the buffs it's gotten.
It's not nearly as bad as the BSN seems to think with all the buffs it's gotten.
#6
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:17
..hard toss up but "COllector" Eagle is a alternate pistol thats fairly well but I can't rely on the stability as much as the Collector rifle
#7
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:19
Collector SMG is actually good, it's simply its clip-size I dislike. Of course this problem can be negated by the mag upgrade.
I'd go with Collector since the Eagle still isn't that much good even after the buff it got.
I'd go with Collector since the Eagle still isn't that much good even after the buff it got.
#8
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:21
Combine both of them to create a doomday device
#9
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:25
Haven't played with CSMG too much, so I'm not that familiar with it, other than the mag being annoying to use.
I'll do a comparison that fits my interests:
- Eagle X with Heavy Barrel and AP Mod does 133.3 a shot and weighs .75. Mag is 24.
- Eagle X with Extended Barrel and AP Mod does 117.1 a shot and weighs .25.
- CSMG X with HVB and EM would do 83.6 per two shots (CSMG is 800 RoF, Eagle is 400) and weighs .35. In comparison to the Eagle, mag would be effectively 36. You have to wait for recharge. Eagle's reload is pretty fast and capacity is sizeable. *
They're both decently accurate. Personally, I'd choose Eagle at this time based on experience.
*Taken into account extended mag and gold armor penalty in all values shown.
I'll do a comparison that fits my interests:
- Eagle X with Heavy Barrel and AP Mod does 133.3 a shot and weighs .75. Mag is 24.
- Eagle X with Extended Barrel and AP Mod does 117.1 a shot and weighs .25.
- CSMG X with HVB and EM would do 83.6 per two shots (CSMG is 800 RoF, Eagle is 400) and weighs .35. In comparison to the Eagle, mag would be effectively 36. You have to wait for recharge. Eagle's reload is pretty fast and capacity is sizeable. *
They're both decently accurate. Personally, I'd choose Eagle at this time based on experience.
*Taken into account extended mag and gold armor penalty in all values shown.
Modifié par Uchimura, 20 octobre 2012 - 06:39 .
#10
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:26
My Eagle 4, because Im lucky to not have the CSMG
#11
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:27
i only have a eagle three but dat recoil = turnoff
#12
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:28
I like them both to be honest.
#13
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:29
The Eagle. But only so I can slap a melee stunner on it and Falcon Punch all the things
#14
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:31
Can someone explain to me what the deal is with recharging the Collector SMG? The last time I used it, the time it took to recharge seemed very inconsistent.
#15
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:41
N7 Eagle X:
Damage per round: 107.70
Versus Armor (Gold): 57.70
Rounds per clip: 24
Sustained DPS: 506.82
Damage per Clip: 2584.80
Clip cycle: 5.10 seconds
Weight: 0.25
Accuracy: 50
Collector SMG X:
Damage per round: 46.80
Versus Armor (Gold): 20.20
Rounds per clip: 40
Sustained DPS: 312.00
Damage per Clip: 1872.00
Clip cycle: 6.00 seconds
Weight: 0.35
Accuracy: 35
Umm...N7 Eagle, hands down.
CSMG does 1/3 the damage of the Eagle vs Armor, takes almost a full second longer to reload. (and only 0.1 sec shoter if you don't empty the clip)
The Eagle is lighter, and more accurate.
Plus, with eagle you can use the AP mod AND ExB and boost the damage even higher.
Besides, I have an Eagle VI and only a CSMG I.
Damage per round: 107.70
Versus Armor (Gold): 57.70
Rounds per clip: 24
Sustained DPS: 506.82
Damage per Clip: 2584.80
Clip cycle: 5.10 seconds
Weight: 0.25
Accuracy: 50
Collector SMG X:
Damage per round: 46.80
Versus Armor (Gold): 20.20
Rounds per clip: 40
Sustained DPS: 312.00
Damage per Clip: 1872.00
Clip cycle: 6.00 seconds
Weight: 0.35
Accuracy: 35
Umm...N7 Eagle, hands down.
CSMG does 1/3 the damage of the Eagle vs Armor, takes almost a full second longer to reload. (and only 0.1 sec shoter if you don't empty the clip)
The Eagle is lighter, and more accurate.
Plus, with eagle you can use the AP mod AND ExB and boost the damage even higher.
Besides, I have an Eagle VI and only a CSMG I.
Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 20 octobre 2012 - 06:50 .
#16
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:42
this information makes me very sad.
#17
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:43
bd2eazy wrote...
i only have a eagle three but dat recoil = turnoff
Learn to aim?
Sorry, I know that sounds like an asinine comment but, there's almost no recoil on that thing vs any automatic weapon. (PPR and CSR not included)
#18
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:49
Collector SMG, screw this PoS Eagle IV.
#19
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:50
I'd go eagle. It's an underrated gun. It's better than the majority of the full auto AR category since it doesn't shoot compressed air. I prefer a conventional gun that I can reload/unload at will wihout huge downtime.
Fire from cover.
If you're not in cover, fire from the hip.
You won't notice the recoil, and it has pinpoint accuracy when shooting from cover.
bd2eazy wrote...
i only have a eagle three but dat recoil = turnoff
Fire from cover.
If you're not in cover, fire from the hip.
You won't notice the recoil, and it has pinpoint accuracy when shooting from cover.
Modifié par Operator m1, 20 octobre 2012 - 06:51 .
#20
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:51
even if the eagle has better dps, it keeps you from equipping the scorpion, talon, paladin, carnifex, or acolyte...
based on that and weight id still take the csmg, most likely with one of those five as a sidearm.
those numbers though.... i hope the csmg gets some love.
based on that and weight id still take the csmg, most likely with one of those five as a sidearm.
those numbers though.... i hope the csmg gets some love.
Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 20 octobre 2012 - 06:52 .
#21
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:52
Don't care what the numbers say, Collector SMG X is a beast with AP III (or higher), capacity, and barrel. Also has next to no recoil and is far more accurate than the Eagle IMO, an easy 20 headshot game if you can aim.
#22
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:56
yeh... i know the drill for the eagle... fire from cover and hip fire.
but id rather be able to ADS and get consistant headshots.
different strokes i guess.
but id rather be able to ADS and get consistant headshots.
different strokes i guess.
#23
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 06:58
Both Dual wield!
But, I think I'll go with the Eagle if I had to choose.
I got one at IV, and it's nice.
But, I think I'll go with the Eagle if I had to choose.
I got one at IV, and it's nice.
#24
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 07:01
I'd say the Eagle as for whatever reason I actually like the thing. Then again I don't have the collector SMG to compare it to yet.
#25
Posté 20 octobre 2012 - 07:09
Few other things about the eagle: You can get piercing, and damage, and not have to pick, unlike SMGs.
It's still pretty light even with a heavy pistol barrel adding that 40% extra damage instead of 25%.
Only real flaw is the opportunity cost of not having an acolyte, or whatever other flavor heavy pistol floats your boat.
It's still pretty light even with a heavy pistol barrel adding that 40% extra damage instead of 25%.
Only real flaw is the opportunity cost of not having an acolyte, or whatever other flavor heavy pistol floats your boat.





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