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Plothole in the Dark Ritual


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Ubasti

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Okay, I maybe wrong in this, but as I remember, Morrigan says that the ritual must be done the night before the battle for it to succeed. Yet it is done in Reddcliffe, which is days away from Denerim. So it is not by any calculations the actual night before the battle, even though in game it is so. The army has to march to Denerim first, and since it is a big army, it will take some time to get there.

So, is this a plothole, something that Bioware forgot to think about, or should we just assume that the battle means also the journey to Denerim? But if Morrigan means the night before slaying the archdemon, then it is a plothole.

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Spider1701

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Good point :-)

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bas273

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:blink: Wow

I think you're right. That would be quite a big plothole.

Arl Eamon says it takes a few days to reach Denerim so the Darkspawn will arrive sooner.

So you and Morrigan should've done a quick ... right before the City Gates :whistle: that would be funny, while Anora is doing her speech you can see your main character and Morrigan in the background :innocent:

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originalSabZero

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Well, it takes a few days for the sperm to find the egg. Maybe.

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Ubasti

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originalSabZero wrote...

Well, it takes a few days for the sperm to find the egg. Maybe.


Would Morrigan know this? ;) And I seriously think the game designers didn't think of it while they made the game.

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Pfft, timelines are for other games. Dragon Age shouts at Father Time "FU!!!" before drop kicking him down the stairs. Your character then proceeds to time travel depending on location and conversation.

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Taleroth

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Did she actually say it needs to be done the day before? I don't remember the specifics, but it seems your argument hinges on that.

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Morrigan has a Glyph of Repulsion in her uterus/fallopian tubes that she removes a day before you reach the battlefield.

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Developer oversight more like, Darkspawn blood is described as black but they always bleed red blood.




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Medhia Nox

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Well, perhaps the ritual is different than the pregnancy. She could be pregnant at any time.. but the Ritual has to be performed the night before. I don't remember the specifics.. I'll pay better attention this play through.

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Although they didn't show it in game, you reperform the ritual every night until you finally get the right night before the battle. Poor Alistair.

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Asylumer wrote...

Pfft, timelines are for other games. Dragon Age shouts at Father Time "FU!!!" before drop kicking him down the stairs. Your character then proceeds to time travel depending on location and conversation.


lol. so true!

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David Gaider

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Honestly? Until rather late in development, Morrigan approached you in your tent when the army camped the night before reaching Denerim. The extra area was eventually cut and the event moved to Redcliffe Castle. I don't remember if this was done before VO was recorded or not, but it seems nobody really noticed the single line when she says "the night before" afterwards.

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And there you have it. :D

Modifié par Sefferz, 01 janvier 2010 - 01:25 .


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TheMadCat

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Bah, I like Asylumer's answer better then David's.

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David Gaider wrote...

Honestly? Until rather late in development, Morrigan approached you in your tent when the army camped the night before reaching Denerim. The extra area was eventually cut and the event moved to Redcliffe Castle. I don't remember if this was done before VO was recorded or not, but it seems nobody really noticed the single line when she says "the night before" afterwards.


I bet everyone was too much in panic that short before the deadline to notice something like that... *giggles*
And well... maybe there magically appeared some griffons on the rooftop of the castle after the ritual to carry the wardens and party to Denerim in a few hours so they could start to fight their way through to the palace before the army arrived :P

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tallon1982

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Or someone hit the easy button ;)

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Asante81

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Or maybe Morrigan cannot count... I bet Flemeth thought that counting isn't important for her education. Magical sex-rites are way more important.

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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien

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Soooo is Claudia Black getting called back in to redo the line for an upcoming patch?

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I did notice that, but you go right into the battle prep, so I sort of ignored it... But I do like the idea of a glyph of warding in Morrigan's fallopian tubes. It made me LOL.

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Asante81 wrote...

And well... maybe there magically appeared some griffons on the rooftop of the castle after the ritual to carry the wardens and party to Denerim in a few hours so they could start to fight their way through to the palace before the army arrived :P

They wouldn't need any oversized freakbirds for that... people travel at the speed of the plot Image IPB

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This is so not a big deal. The RPG gaming community needs more FPS and TPS thugs like me playing these games (My virgin attempt at an RPG after taking a well deserved break from GOW2, ODST and MW2).

The truth is we won't harp on you for every little plot glitch or pick the scabs of every wrong keyed/flagged VO we see; BUT....

...we will definietly pitch a fit, and our controllers through our TV screens, as well as lead a rabble of star metal sword wielding grey wardens, after leveling up to 22, perfecting our shield bash/pummel/assualt/overpower combo, becoming the bane of the darkspawn and crowning 2 kings, only to get the s#!t kicked out of us at the end by the swamp witch we initially distrusted but grew attached to once we observed her emerge as 'almost' human from her isolation induced social retardation.

There's worse things Bioware than just fussing over a few misplaced words.

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Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 02 janvier 2010 - 09:01 .


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Maybe the Darkspawn tainted spermies had to gather at the bottom then blight the egg at the right time?

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CREinstein wrote...

Maybe the Darkspawn tainted spermies had to gather at the bottom then blight the egg at the right time?


You mean they needed the Archdemon near them to guide them to their destination? 

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I don't see how it matters so long as it was say...nine months before slaying the archdemon? :P