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Dwailing wrote...

Only going to be satisfied if they show me what happened to Shepard after the breath scene. At this point, I don't care if it's literal or IT, I just want to see what happened to Shepard after the breath scene.


Dont worry, you'll see. Just dont buy any new Mass Effect games, then you'll see Shepard again. Breathing scene is a joker, backdoor of low sales. When next games wont sell enough, they'll take destroy as cannon and continue the franchise with Shepard.

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Dwailing wrote...

Only going to be satisfied if they show me what happened to Shepard after the breath scene. At this point, I don't care if it's literal or IT, I just want to see what happened to Shepard after the breath scene.

ummm....He Lives after the breathe scene


Did you want Bioware to tell you how "your" Shepard lives the rest of his or her life?

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revo76 wrote...



Dont worry, you'll see. Just dont buy any new Mass Effect games, then you'll see Shepard again. Breathing scene is a joker, backdoor of low sales. When next games wont sell enough, they'll take destroy as cannon and continue the franchise with Shepard.



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SNascimento wrote...

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Btw, my Shepard like being a god.


Ha, I get it!

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N7 Lisbeth wrote...
Shepard is buried under said concrete with no way to escape.


Huh? if Shep's buried under the concrete how am I seeing her?

Even supposing she somehow, inexplicably isn't trapped under the concrete (clearly she is), let's examine other ways in which we're trapped: No ship, no food, no water, limited air since the Crucible/Citadel's hull was visibly breached in the explosion (and it's safe to say the systems recycling it were damaged in the explosions that we *saw* tear up the Crucible/Citadel).


No ship? There are plenty of ships flying around outside the Citadel. Plus ships docked at the Citadel, unless the Reapers destroyed every single one.

As for air, that's a very large volume in the space  Recycling wouldn't be an issue for quite some time. And "it's safe to say" there is just silly. Those systems are only destroyed if Bio wants them destroyed.

Food and water probably wouldn't come into it. Though come to think of it, what do the keepers live on?

Do we even need to mention Shepard was heavily bleeding, perhaps fatally wounded, and will probably die in short order without medical attention?


Look, if you want Shepard to die, go ahead and feel that she does. But you can't just drop a "perhaps" in there and then assume the truth of it.

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AlanC9 wrote...

Do we even need to mention Shepard was heavily bleeding, perhaps fatally wounded, and will probably die in short order without medical attention?


Look, if you want Shepard to die, go ahead and feel that she does. But you can't just drop a "perhaps" in there and then assume the truth of it.


That's not an answer.  That's an excuse.

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AlanC9 wrote...

N7 Lisbeth wrote...
Shepard is buried under said concrete with no way to escape.


Huh? if Shep's buried under the concrete how am I seeing her?

Even supposing she somehow, inexplicably isn't trapped under the concrete (clearly she is), let's examine other ways in which we're trapped: No ship, no food, no water, limited air since the Crucible/Citadel's hull was visibly breached in the explosion (and it's safe to say the systems recycling it were damaged in the explosions that we *saw* tear up the Crucible/Citadel).


No ship? There are plenty of ships flying around outside the Citadel. Plus ships docked at the Citadel, unless the Reapers destroyed every single one.

As for air, that's a very large volume in the space  Recycling wouldn't be an issue for quite some time. And "it's safe to say" there is just silly. Those systems are only destroyed if Bio wants them destroyed.

Food and water probably wouldn't come into it. Though come to think of it, what do the keepers live on?

Do we even need to mention Shepard was heavily bleeding, perhaps fatally wounded, and will probably die in short order without medical attention?


Look, if you want Shepard to die, go ahead and feel that she does. But you can't just drop a "perhaps" in there and then assume the truth of it.


maybe you have some good points there, but we SAW in the game shepard bleeding, burned,wounded etc, that are facts of the game. to me the "perhaps" are ohhh yes shepard is alive...Posted Image or not. really we dont know for sure, i dont wat se what happen in shepard life years later i only want to know what happen NEXT  to the last o whatever breath under the rubbles Posted Image

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iakus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Do we even need to mention Shepard was heavily bleeding, perhaps fatally wounded, and will probably die in short order without medical attention?


Look, if you want Shepard to die, go ahead and feel that she does. But you can't just drop a "perhaps" in there and then assume the truth of it.


That's not an answer.  That's an excuse.


That wasn't supposed to be an answer. Just pointing out that she's deliberately trying to interpret the ending in a way that kills Shep. That's her right -- as it is yours -- but she's just pretending that this interpretation is forced on her.

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AlanC9 wrote...

That wasn't supposed to be an answer. Just pointing out that she's deliberately trying to interpret the ending in a way that kills Shep. That's her right -- as it is yours -- but she's just pretending that this interpretation is forced on her.


Given how many people find that interpretation very easy to believe, you're not willing to at least aknowledge that Bioware laid it on a little thick how dire SHep's situation is?

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AlanC9 wrote...

"Forever-trapped" is just silly. By that standard, any hero ever is forever trapped in whatever last image you have of him. Are Luke, Han, Leia, et al. trapped at the Ewok Dance Party forever?

(And is that even worse than Shepard's fate?)



Actually, it isn’t silly; Luke’s story is clearly concluded. We know he escaped the fate of his father and that he has rejoined his friends. There is closure and clearness. Whatever happens later is another tale.

On the other hand, Shepard’s survival is left open; the situation is that of a cliffhanger:
Will Shepard survive her wounds? Will she be rescued on time? Is the torso really shepherd’s?

Bioware didn’t answer any of those. That ending is not even like a Swiss cheese with holes in it; it is rather a huge hole with a minuscule crumb of Swiss cheese in it.

Shepard’s journey is left unconcluded, unfinished. "Locked" in that moment.

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iakus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

That wasn't supposed to be an answer. Just pointing out that she's deliberately trying to interpret the ending in a way that kills Shep. That's her right -- as it is yours -- but she's just pretending that this interpretation is forced on her.


Given how many people find that interpretation very easy to believe, you're not willing to at least aknowledge that Bioware laid it on a little thick how dire SHep's situation is?


A little thick? I guess so, sure. I just don't think they expected people to interpret the scene the way you folks are. This isn't the only place where those expectations were wrong.

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jakal66 wrote...

I am fine with control's ending(after EC)

I am fine with Synthesis(after EC)

I AM MOST CERTAINLY NOT FINE with destry(even after ec)

I blame it on lack of balls to give closure to the main charachter...trolling us with that lame ass breath sequence

do not forget the lovely trolling we got at comicon

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vallore wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

"Forever-trapped" is just silly. By that standard, any hero ever is forever trapped in whatever last image you have of him. Are Luke, Han, Leia, et al. trapped at the Ewok Dance Party forever?

(And is that even worse than Shepard's fate?)



Actually, it isn’t silly; Luke’s story is clearly concluded. We know he escaped the fate of his father and that he has rejoined his friends. There is closure and clearness. Whatever happens later is another tale.

On the other hand, Shepard’s survival is left open; the situation is that of a cliffhanger:
Will Shepard survive her wounds? Will she be rescued on time? Is the torso really shepherd’s?

Bioware didn’t answer any of those. That ending is not even like a Swiss cheese with holes in it; it is rather a huge hole with a minuscule crumb of Swiss cheese in it.

Shepard’s journey is left unconcluded, unfinished. "Locked" in that moment.

exactly Posted Image

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Yes - I'm satisfied with the ending. Am I completely satisfied? No. Of course I want more Shepherd, which does not appear to be the case as it's time for a new lead character or characters as the case may be. However, in my ending, Shepherd brought down the Reapers, united the universe, saved said universe and lived. In my case, to live with Miranda Lawson. What more closure would I need?

The best part of the ending though is that the Mass Effect universe doesn't end and we get to explore more adventures, stories and games set in this universe. That makes me very happy, indeed.

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High Five Revival wrote...

Yes - I'm satisfied with the ending. Am I completely satisfied? No. Of course I want more Shepherd, which does not appear to be the case as it's time for a new lead character or characters as the case may be. However, in my ending, Shepherd brought down the Reapers, united the universe, saved said universe and lived. In my case, to live with Miranda Lawson. What more closure would I need?

The best part of the ending though is that the Mass Effect universe doesn't end and we get to explore more adventures, stories and games set in this universe. That makes me very happy, indeed.


And you trust them to make further games without royally screwing you over after 100+ hours of playing?

Coz I don't.

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crimzontearz wrote...

do not forget the lovely trolling we got at comicon


What does that mean?

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Hexley UK wrote...

High Five Revival wrote...

Yes - I'm satisfied with the ending. Am I completely satisfied? No. Of course I want more Shepherd, which does not appear to be the case as it's time for a new lead character or characters as the case may be. However, in my ending, Shepherd brought down the Reapers, united the universe, saved said universe and lived. In my case, to live with Miranda Lawson. What more closure would I need?

The best part of the ending though is that the Mass Effect universe doesn't end and we get to explore more adventures, stories and games set in this universe. That makes me very happy, indeed.


And you trust them to make further games without royally screwing you over after 100+ hours of playing?

Coz I don't.


my sentiment exactly especially since they believe WE were at fault for not understanding their awesome art

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LazyTechGuy wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

do not forget the lovely trolling we got at comicon


What does that mean?

at the panel Elper was asked directly if the breath scene meant Shep is alive and he replied "for all we know that could be his last breath"

yep.....**** this

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AlanC9 wrote...

N7 Lisbeth wrote...
Even supposing she somehow, inexplicably isn't trapped under the concrete (clearly she is), let's examine other ways in which we're trapped: No ship, no food, no water, limited air since the Crucible/Citadel's hull was visibly breached in the explosion (and it's safe to say the systems recycling it were damaged in the explosions that we *saw* tear up the Crucible/Citadel).


No ship? There are plenty of ships flying around outside the Citadel. Plus ships docked at the Citadel, unless the Reapers destroyed every single one.


Actually; if I remember correctly, there shouldn’t be any. If they obeyed Hackett, most fleet ships must have escaped. I’m sure the Normandy must have been one of the last to bail out. Whatever ships remains on the battlefield are likely crippled (and busy with their problems) or they would have escaped.

In the citadel, whatever operational ships there were, likely were used to escape by the residents, or where destroyed, or crippled. There could be some left, sure; but I don’t expect it would be easy to find any.

Do we even need to mention Shepard was heavily bleeding, perhaps fatally wounded, and will probably die in short order without medical attention?


Look, if you want Shepard to die, go ahead and feel that she does. But you can't just drop a "perhaps" in there and then assume the truth of it.



Let me see, we have a seriously wounded soldier, in an apparently empty, ruined base. Debris surrounding her; and she is bleeding heavily. A deserted battlefield and the nearby planet is itself a ruined, chaotic battleground. All operational ships must have all bailed out of system, (as per Hackett’s order), and any still there must be dealing with problems of their own.

What is the most logical assumption? That Shepard lives or that she dies?

Now, let’s think about this:

It would have been easy to show Shepard’s face.

It would have been easy to show a team of rescuers finding Shepard.

It would have been easy to show a few seconds scene of her standing near the memorial wall, instead of the LI scene we got. So, why they didn’t?

My guess is precisely because the scene we got implies much more strongly that Shepard is going to die, (anyway), that it implies she can live through it.<_<

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Considering all the people he saves in the process, yes, of course.

Seems like I've seen this thread before.

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Considering all the people he saves in the process, yes, of course.

Seems like I've seen this thread before.


Of course you have. This OP only ever makes one thread, but posts it continuously! :wizard:

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HYR 2.0 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Considering all the people he saves in the process, yes, of course.

Seems like I've seen this thread before.


Of course you have. This OP only ever makes one thread, but posts it continuously! :wizard:

Oh. Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed that. I thought I was going insane.

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AlanC9 wrote...

iakus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

That wasn't supposed to be an answer. Just pointing out that she's deliberately trying to interpret the ending in a way that kills Shep. That's her right -- as it is yours -- but she's just pretending that this interpretation is forced on her.


Given how many people find that interpretation very easy to believe, you're not willing to at least aknowledge that Bioware laid it on a little thick how dire SHep's situation is?


A little thick? I guess so, sure. I just don't think they expected people to interpret the scene the way you folks are. This isn't the only place where those expectations were wrong.


The fact that they couldn't/wouldn't  "clarify" this in EC indicates that maybe we're seeing things a little more clearly than you.

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Hexley UK wrote...

High Five Revival wrote...

Yes - I'm satisfied with the ending. Am I completely satisfied? No. Of course I want more Shepherd, which does not appear to be the case as it's time for a new lead character or characters as the case may be. However, in my ending, Shepherd brought down the Reapers, united the universe, saved said universe and lived. In my case, to live with Miranda Lawson. What more closure would I need?

The best part of the ending though is that the Mass Effect universe doesn't end and we get to explore more adventures, stories and games set in this universe. That makes me very happy, indeed.


And you trust them to make further games without royally screwing you over after 100+ hours of playing?

Coz I don't.


Me neither.  I'll always be waiting for them to drop another bridge on my character.

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So? Shepard still existed, he just wasn't alive.

The only definitive timeline during the trilogy where he's alive is the timeline between ME2 and ME3 (1 year). ME1 is inferred to take place over a couple of months, and Hackett says (on Earth) that they've been fighting the Reapers for another "couple of months"


Yeah, but dead = dead. Shepard didn't experience those two years so you can't really count them.

My (very basic) math was:

ME1: about 3 months (including the month between ME1 and ME2's prologue)
ME2-ME3: about 1 year
ME3: about 3 months

= 18 months :wizard: