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He's not glued to the concrete. I don't see how he's "forever trapped."


Shepard is buried under said concrete with no way to escape. Even supposing she somehow, inexplicably isn't trapped under the concrete (clearly she is), let's examine other ways in which we're trapped: No ship, no food, no water, limited air since the Crucible/Citadel's hull was visibly breached in the explosion (and it's safe to say the systems recycling it were damaged in the explosions that we *saw* tear up the Crucible/Citadel). Do we even need to mention Shepard was heavily bleeding, perhaps fatally wounded, and will probably die in short order without medical attention?

Yeah, let's end it there! Art!


Heavily bleeding? It was merely a flesh wound! Just a trickle. With all those skin, muscle, and bone meshes that will close up pretty fast. I didn't see blood gushing out during that long conversation. If it was a serious wound with all that exploration in the conversation Shepard would have passed out long before that conversation was over. Trust me on this. I was seriously injured once and heavily bleeding. That was nothing. And she was standing and walking around? Bah! a mere scratch if you ask me.

More likely doubled over from some broken ribs. Damn those things are painful. It hurts just to breathe.

There was obviously enough oxygen since there is enough space magic in the area to keep the kinetic barriers intact to hold air in, because I think Weekes said so. No need to worry about that. And yes the reaper husks used concrete to build the thing.

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Reality is though, they can't just keep rewriting the ending. It'd be a waste of money and resources. I think there's probably a lot of people who think Bioware has unlimited funds and doesn't work within the confines of something called a "budget".

It costs money to create content and such for this game. However, no matter what the ending is, these fans won't be satisfied until they get what they want. Which could cost Bioware millions of dollars and would probably leave them less money for other projects they are working on. Yep, Mass Effect isn't the only game that Bioware is supporting right now. 

Any rational person knows this. Any irrational person doesn't care and won't give up on the ending drama until their demands are met.

They've said before, if you didn't like the EC, time to move on. Some people won't accept this though.

Modifié par magnetite, 21 octobre 2012 - 12:56 .


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Harbinger of Hope wrote...

The original ending? No. The new endings? Yes.

The new control ending is exactly what I imagined when I first picked it in the OG endings. Shepard transcending humanity and using the Reapers to protect and watch over the galaxy for eternity. I like that. The people who still bash the new endings are the ones that wanted a perfect, happy-go-lucky, everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya, ending. I personally always knew that was never an option.

"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."


I would have sacrificed HAPPILY the whole normandy crew, half my squaddies and earth itself for a shepard lives and reunites with LI ending.

is that grimdark enough for you? Does it pass your test of mature enligntenment? Because I will happily take that.....but oh wait...I cannot because I am supposed to do Bioware's job and imagine it.....just like they can imagine my money in the future

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Shepard is either the person who threw themselves in a magical beam to genetically rape everyone in the galaxy, an enigmatic Reaper god, or forever-trapped in a pile of purgatorial rubble...

Is this satisfying for you?


Don't forget trying to stand up for what they believe in, and being punished severely for it! Posted Image

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Shepard is either the person who threw themselves in a magical beam to genetically rape everyone in the galaxy, an enigmatic Reaper god, or forever-trapped in a pile of purgatorial rubble...

Is this satisfying for you?


Don't forget trying to stand up for what they believe in, and being punished severely for it! Posted Image


So Bane was in the Refuse ending? Posted Image

Modifié par AresKeith, 21 octobre 2012 - 02:19 .


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Harbinger of Hope wrote...

The people who still bash the new endings are the ones that wanted a perfect, happy-go-lucky, everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya, ending. I personally always knew that was never an option.


Um, excuse me.. But have you seen the Synthesis ending?

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Let's see:

1. Pointless death of Shepard in every ending.
2. Starbrat's logic is so flawed I am amazed it didn't short circuit while I was talking to him.
3. The fact that the ending practically screams at you "Do not think, do not think, DON'T YOU DARE THINK!"
4. When you think about it, the ending falls apart faster than a Jenga tower.

No, I am not satisfied. If it is a choice between having Shepard live or die, let him/her live. Either way, people's gratitude will fade, so might as well be around to enjoy it while it lasts.

Modifié par Brian Lewis, 21 octobre 2012 - 04:54 .


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Hah! God, no.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...


Harbinger of Hope wrote...

The people who still bash the new endings are the ones that wanted a perfect, happy-go-lucky, everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya, ending. I personally always knew that was never an option.


Um, excuse me.. But have you seen the Synthesis ending?


No, because Shepard commits suicide. Posted Image

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The Hero's journey is supposed to feature a Return phase at the end. Casey and Mac forgot about that and killed Shepard because they were jealous that Shepard was liked more than they were.

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crimzontearz wrote...

jakal66 wrote...

I am fine with control's ending(after EC)

I am fine with Synthesis(after EC)

I AM MOST CERTAINLY NOT FINE with destry(even after ec)

I blame it on lack of balls to give closure to the main charachter...trolling us with that lame ass breath sequence

do not forget the lovely trolling we got at comicon

what exactly happened there I didn't read anything...

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jakal66 wrote...

I am fine with control's ending(after EC)

I am fine with Synthesis(after EC)

I AM MOST CERTAINLY NOT FINE with destry(even after ec)

I blame it on lack of balls to give closure to the main charachter...trolling us with that lame ass breath sequence

Yep... huge lack of balls. Shows they care little for what fans want and more about what their masters EA want. How does it feel being the b*tch of the Worst company in America?

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Seriously confused at the level of hate given to the breath scene. It's a deliberately ambiguous ending. That's not a new concept. Why is it so apparently infuriating?

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The people who still bash the new endings are the ones that wanted a perfect, happy-go-lucky, everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya, ending. I personally always knew that was never an option.


I kind of agree. With all the stuff Bioware had to deal with, people should cut them a little slack. Did we really need to see every single war asset, and every single character, and every single plot wrapped up? Not to mention a finale for the thousands of choices you made throughout the series? That's asking a bit much.

Some of the greatest sci-fi stories are left open to the imagination. People need to be spoon fed everything. Not just gamers, but everyone. They can't use their imaginations and such. They basically have to have the developers hand hold them and tell them how the story ends. I see it all the time everywhere.

People didn't need create this sludgestorm of hate and anger over a video game for over 7 months. It kind of sounds really ridiculous. The fact that it's still going on is really sad.

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magnetite wrote...

The people who still bash the new endings are the ones that wanted a perfect, happy-go-lucky, everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya, ending. I personally always knew that was never an option.


I kind of agree. With all the stuff Bioware had to deal with, people should cut them a little slack. Did we really need to see every single war asset, and every single character, and every single plot wrapped up? Not to mention a finale for the thousands of choices you made throughout the series? That's asking a bit much.

Some of the greatest sci-fi stories are left open to the imagination. People need to be spoon fed everything. Not just gamers, but everyone. They can't use their imaginations and such. They basically have to have the developers hand hold them and tell them how the story ends. I see it all the time everywhere.

People didn't need create this sludgestorm of hate and anger over a video game for over 7 months. It kind of sounds really ridiculous. The fact that it's still going on is really sad.


My only problem is how poorly sheppard was dealt with particulary high ems destroy.No extension on the ending...if you are happy with it, then great but  it saddens me that you are satisfied with such a poor concept.
I have played video games since back in the old days...I know open endings don't usually work well for games.

Specially and RPG story based game, with various branches. I firmly believe we should know what happened to our main character, did he survive, did he reunite with his friends, what happened to them.If you thinks that's asking too much then I am entitled to think you settle for too little. I find it sad that they were able to deliver closure in 2 of the 4 endings...and the one with probably more specualtions was left with even more inconslusive BS.

So yes, please spoonfeed me a proper high ems destroy ending, I'll galdly eat it.-:bandit:

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magnetite wrote...


The people who still bash the new endings are the ones that wanted a perfect, happy-go-lucky, everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya, ending. I personally always knew that was never an option.


I kind of agree. With all the stuff Bioware had to deal with, people should cut them a little slack. Did we really need to see every single war asset, and every single character, and every single plot wrapped up? Not to mention a finale for the thousands of choices you made throughout the series? That's asking a bit much.

Some of the greatest sci-fi stories are left open to the imagination. People need to be spoon fed everything. Not just gamers, but everyone. They can't use their imaginations and such. They basically have to have the developers hand hold them and tell them how the story ends. I see it all the time everywhere.

People didn't need create this sludgestorm of hate and anger over a video game for over 7 months. It kind of sounds really ridiculous. The fact that it's still going on is really sad.


I stand by what I've always said. Anyone who is happy with the ending AFTER the EC. And only BECAUSE of the EC. Failed to see the actual problem with the endings in the first place.

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Tell you what, wait until they finish releasing all the DLCs. Perhaps the final DLC will conclude Shepard's story. I've had this really weird idea that the final DLC for Mass Effect 3 will be the real ending finale.

For some people though, defeating the Reapers was the main goal of the trilogy.

Mike Gamble said something about "if you guys knew what we had in store, the reaction to the ending would be different".

Another guy said "There are no happy endings, because nothing ends. Name that movie".

Give it a little time. Some people had to go a full year without new content, but hopefully the answers to what happened to Shepard will be coming in a couple months.

I stand by what I've always said. Anyone who is happy with the ending AFTER the EC. And only BECAUSE of the EC. Failed to see the actual problem with the endings in the first place.


What exactly about the ending? Lack of closure?

For closure, there were many times throughout the game that hinted that this being the "war to end all wars". It was a suicide mission. The fact that they would survive at all against an unstoppable force like the Reapers is a miracle. That part on Earth where you go and talk to your squadmates and former acquaintances (room where you talk to Grunt, Miranda, etc), that was your final goodbye so to speak. There wasn't going to be a happy ending reunion after beating the Reapers.

Least how it was originally written.

Modifié par magnetite, 21 octobre 2012 - 06:36 .


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I don't want any DLC affecting the ending. Renegade Shepard's journey is complete.

Thanks to the perfect control ending, she's where I always intended her being - out there, amongst the stars, with a f*cking huge unbeatable Reaper fleet at her command, dominating the galaxy.

Casey promised me 'uplifting', and boy that's what I got. What could be better than making the Evil Emperor look like a Care Bear?!

Shepard - saviour of the council, hero of the Citadel, destroyer of the Collectors, and finally, master of the universe. Perfect.

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Bester76 wrote...

I don't want any DLC affecting the ending. Renegade Shepard's journey is complete.

Thanks to the perfect control ending, she's where I always intended her being - out there, amongst the stars, with a f*cking huge unbeatable Reaper fleet at her command, dominating the galaxy.

Casey promised me 'uplifting', and boy that's what I got. What could be better than making the Evil Emperor look like a Care Bear?!

Shepard - saviour of the council, hero of the Citadel, destroyer of the Collectors, and finally, master of the universe. Perfect.

I hope you transport random volus around the galaxy and make them take their suits off, just for fun.

Do some evil for me!

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crimzontearz wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

The original ending? No. The new endings? Yes.

The new control ending is exactly what I imagined when I first picked it in the OG endings. Shepard transcending humanity and using the Reapers to protect and watch over the galaxy for eternity. I like that. The people who still bash the new endings are the ones that wanted a perfect, happy-go-lucky, everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya, ending. I personally always knew that was never an option.

"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."


I would have sacrificed HAPPILY the whole normandy crew, half my squaddies and earth itself for a shepard lives and reunites with LI ending.

is that grimdark enough for you? Does it pass your test of mature enligntenment? Because I will happily take that.....but oh wait...I cannot because I am supposed to do Bioware's job and imagine it.....just like they can imagine my money in the future

I can't stop laughing

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Jade8aby88 wrote...


I stand by what I've always said. Anyone who is happy with the ending AFTER the EC. And only BECAUSE of the EC. Failed to see the actual problem with the endings in the first place.

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QFT  that should be your sig.

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crimzontearz wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

The original ending? No. The new endings? Yes.

The new control ending is exactly what I imagined when I first picked it in the OG endings. Shepard transcending humanity and using the Reapers to protect and watch over the galaxy for eternity. I like that. The people who still bash the new endings are the ones that wanted a perfect, happy-go-lucky, everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya, ending. I personally always knew that was never an option.

"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."


I would have sacrificed HAPPILY the whole normandy crew, half my squaddies and earth itself for a shepard lives and reunites with LI ending.

is that grimdark enough for you? Does it pass your test of mature enligntenment? Because I will happily take that.....but oh wait...I cannot because I am supposed to do Bioware's job and imagine it.....just like they can imagine my money in the future


Then you're selfish, and don't understand what it means to be a hero. A hero is the one who makes the ultimate sacrifice so everyone can live. And even if you're a full Renegade Shepard, he still wouldn't be all "Ok, Normandy, you and every single ally I have, go fight the Reapers alone, Ima go chill with my sexy blue alien, lol, kthxbye!"

And I wasn't saying the ending should be "Grimdark" where everyone dies. I was saying it should be bittersweet, where the hero dies, but still saves the entire galaxy. I'm fine with that, and when I was defending BSN, saying that it isn't about the fact that Shep dies, that it was about how much sense the ending made, I was hoping that I was right. I guess I wasn't. I guess a lot of BSN does want the "My Little Pony" ending. Whatever, continue to cry about your Shepard's death, I'm going to go and replay the game some more. Since, thanks to the EC and the hard work of Bioware, I now know that Shepard's death actually means something.

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Since there is no meaning in the games, I've come to the conclusion that to get the fullest enjoyment out of the Bioware story lines is to be more evil than the arch villain your going up against. You have more fun, cause more misery, and if your character dies in the end who gives a damn? You put so little of yourself into it that it doesn't matter anyway. Play the games like grand theft auto on in rampage mode.

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Renegade + Control = Win = Uplifting = Perfection