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[Brovikk Rasputin]

Brian Lewis wrote...

Let's see:

1. Pointless death of Shepard in every ending.
2. Starbrat's logic is so flawed I am amazed it didn't short circuit while I was talking to him.
3. The fact that the ending practically screams at you "Do not think, do not think, DON'T YOU DARE THINK!"
4. When you think about it, the ending falls apart faster than a Jenga tower.

No, I am not satisfied. If it is a choice between having Shepard live or die, let him/her live. Either way, people's gratitude will fade, so might as well be around to enjoy it while it lasts.

Pointless death? Flawed logic? Ending falls apart? 

Sorry, but I don't think you were paying any attention at all. Maybe you should try replaying the game. It all makes perfect sense, really.

[babachewie]

forever whining

[Oilking72]

Another in a long line of useless threads but then I saw the user so I understand.

lofl.

[plain numbers]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Shepard is either the person who threw themselves in a magical beam to genetically rape everyone in the galaxy, an enigmatic Reaper god, or forever-trapped in a pile of purgatorial rubble...

Is this satisfying for you?

Yes, yes it is. 

Next. 

[ghost9191]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Brian Lewis wrote...

Let's see:

1. Pointless death of Shepard in every ending.
2. Starbrat's logic is so flawed I am amazed it didn't short circuit while I was talking to him.
3. The fact that the ending practically screams at you "Do not think, do not think, DON'T YOU DARE THINK!"
4. When you think about it, the ending falls apart faster than a Jenga tower.

No, I am not satisfied. If it is a choice between having Shepard live or die, let him/her live. Either way, people's gratitude will fade, so might as well be around to enjoy it while it lasts.

Pointless death? Flawed logic? Ending falls apart? 

Sorry, but I don't think you were paying any attention at all. Maybe you should try replaying the game. It all makes perfect sense, really.

well you do kind prove it wrong about the whole synthetics and organics can't coexist, at least in my play through the geth and quarians are working together, the geth are helping to rebuild and adapt their immune systems. all without resorting to synthesis.  there is that

the deaths have a point ,  one it ends the threat., synthesis shep dies to turn everyone into a f*cked up version of organics and synthetics ( tried to come up with a smart ass remark but couldn''t think of one ) and control has she[paard kill him or herself to create a ai version to rule over the reapers. clear points

now the geth to me is a pointless added on sacrifice. i think that they should be able to survive ( and might. there is no real evidence to say otherwise ,  they even changed what the catalyst says about it ) edi is understandable , sacrifice shep and crew member, posibly a friend in order to stop the reapers . but have the geth survive. which again they might.

but that is just me . synthesis and control don't have a major sacrifice like that , just seems like something to deter ppl from picking it

that mainly gets into my problem with geth possibly being destroyed/ but the deaths do have a point

[Demon560]

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

The original ending? No. The new endings? Yes.

The new control ending is exactly what I imagined when I first picked it in the OG endings. Shepard transcending humanity and using the Reapers to protect and watch over the galaxy for eternity. I like that. The people who still bash the new endings are the ones that wanted a perfect, happy-go-lucky, everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya, ending. I personally always knew that was never an option.

"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

So Reaper Shep is soon just going to be catalyst, since it lives or exist for something close to eternity, K, better get this out of the way before it happends, all hail reaper Shep, all hale the great and powerful dictator.

Anyways, yeah the endings have not changed much, the slides were great for a while, but then that wore off, and i get the same endings as befor, the game was enjoyable for the most part, the endings are still awful( IMO), MP still addictive, and Shep's forever stuck in Limbo under rubble on the Citadell- if you have to headcanon what happends next in a story than, it never really happened and is no better fanfic, but whatever Sheps story ended and for me so has the MEU, sure their are some wonderful aspects of the galaxy to explore and many different stories, but the way they ended his/her story after 5yrs makes me not want to get near any new type Mass Effect product, because my choices in the end will most lilkely not matter.

[Baihu1983]

This is how you make a fan not want to continue the series so well done Bioware if that was the plan?

[Raging_Pulse]

ghost9191 wrote...

now the geth to me is a pointless added on sacrifice. i think that they should be able to survive ( and might. there is no real evidence to say otherwise ,  they even changed what the catalyst says about it ) edi is understandable , sacrifice shep and crew member, posibly a friend in order to stop the reapers . but have the geth survive. which again they might.

but that is just me . synthesis and control don't have a major sacrifice like that , just seems like something to deter ppl from picking it

that mainly gets into my problem with geth possibly being destroyed/ but the deaths do have a point

Yeah, the deaths of EDI and geth are pointless and contrived, but I guess the writers had to artificially attach a negative consequence to choosing Destroy ending. Otherwise I suspect majority of people would naturally choose an ending where Shepard could live (he really doesn't because the game doesn't show it, but many people take high EMS breath scene as basis for headcanon that he is alive).

That is also possibly a reason why in the Control ending ReaperShepard doesn't also enslave EDI and geth. Red beam of destruction "doesn't discriminate" and annihilates everything that has even a trace of Reaper tech in itself, but Blue control beam somehow only affects the Reapers and them alone. Shepard had to commit suicide in Control ending so that's a bummer enough. You don't want a zombified slave-EDI wandering around Normandy now do you? 

Modifié par Domecoming, 21 octobre 2012 - 09:59 .

[Harbinger of Hope]

Demon560 wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

So Reaper Shep is soon just going to be catalyst, since it lives or exist for something close to eternity, K, better get this out of the way before it happends, all hail reaper Shep, all hale the great and powerful dictator.

As a fan of good storytelling, I think that would make for one hell of a good tale. The hero of the galaxy, who sacrificed himself for the whole universe, is turned into the very thing he was fighting against.

[Terravas]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Shepard is either the person who threw themselves in a magical beam to genetically rape everyone in the galaxy, an enigmatic Reaper god, or forever-trapped in a pile of purgatorial rubble...

Is this satisfying for you?

I'm not happy with the destroy ending really but I know that they aren't going to tamper with the endings any more than they already have with the EC, even if there is still a lack of closure for Destroy. Having to imagine closure is just stupid and lazy storytelling, in my opinion.

[chidingewe8036]

no this is not how our heroes' journey ends Shepard will be back 2013

..........prepare yourselves

[N7 Shadow 90]

It was symbolic. I prefer it to the simple, get in, get the job done, get out feel of Mass Effect 2's suicide mission. Don't get me wrong, I loved the Suicide Mission. It was absolutely epic, but I prefer to have more to think about. So yes, I am satisfied.
Just my opinion though.

Modifié par N7 Shadow 90, 21 octobre 2012 - 12:11 .

[clarkusdarkus]

please buy more dlc to further the legend that is the shepard...........................oh i take it you dont want my money now as theres no more shepard.....cool.....i'll buy peanut chunky kitkats again then instead.

[Jadebaby]

magnetite wrote...

What exactly about the ending? Lack of closure?

For closure, there were many times throughout the game that hinted that this being the "war to end all wars". It was a suicide mission.

I'm guessing you never played Mass Effect 2.

Least how it was originally written.

I'm guessing you never played Deus Ex.

[Jadebaby]

babachewie wrote...

forever whining

Forever whining about whining.

[crimzontearz]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

The original ending? No. The new endings? Yes.

The new control ending is exactly what I imagined when I first picked it in the OG endings. Shepard transcending humanity and using the Reapers to protect and watch over the galaxy for eternity. I like that. The people who still bash the new endings are the ones that wanted a perfect, happy-go-lucky, everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya, ending. I personally always knew that was never an option.

"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

I would have sacrificed HAPPILY the whole normandy crew, half my squaddies and earth itself for a shepard lives and reunites with LI ending.

is that grimdark enough for you? Does it pass your test of mature enligntenment? Because I will happily take that.....but oh wait...I cannot because I am supposed to do Bioware's job and imagine it.....just like they can imagine my money in the future

I can't stop laughing

Do you see a DA2 icon under my name Mr Vash? no? That is because differently from other users when I say I am not wasting money on something I actually mean it.



oh and @ harbinger of Hope: I have been DIRECTLY, like many of us, to imagine what hapoened to my shepard. In such an instance if I, as a DM/ST told my group to IMAGINE what happened to their characters I would expect and HOPE to be told not to host sessions ever again. I am glad you liked it, I am happt for you hell I ENVY you because I truly wanted to love this series forever but as it us I only feel insulted.

[Jadebaby]

Sion1138 wrote...

No. I imagine the only way it could be satisfying is if I had some sort of self-defeating personality disorder.

But hey...  

No, I think the more important personality trait is you have to hate yourself.. Then synthesis will look more appealing. Or control because you can take all that anger out on the rest of the galaxy.

[Spectre Impersonator]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Least how it was originally written.

I'm guessing you never played Deus Ex.

[Ridwan]

No, and I'll say what many of you "artsy" and "mature" types won't say out loud. It should've ended with Shepard toasting a can of beer with Garrus and co. over a dead Reaper corpse, then a cut scene of some speech about how we will remember the losses and how we have shown the galaxy that we make our own path.
And finally Shepard heads back to Liara and mentions something of the line of "Now about those blue babies" kiss, fade to black, the end.

[Spectre Impersonator]

M25105 wrote...

No, and I'll say what many of you "artsy" and "mature" types won't say out loud. It should've ended with Shepard toasting a can of beer with Garrus and co. over a dead Reaper corpse, then a cut scene of some speech about how we will remember the losses and how we have shown the galaxy that we make our own path.
And finally Shepard heads back to Liara and mentions something of the line of "Now about those blue babies" kiss, fade to black, the end.

Bioware/EA: "We couldn't do that! That's what people were hoping for!"

[Ghost]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Shepard is either the person who threw themselves in a magical beam to genetically rape everyone in the galaxy, an enigmatic Reaper god, or forever-trapped in a pile of purgatorial rubble...

Is this satisfying for you?

You should have made this 7 months ago.

[Tomwew]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Shepard is either the person who threw themselves in a magical beam to genetically rape everyone in the galaxy, an enigmatic Reaper god, or forever-trapped in a pile of purgatorial rubble...

Is this satisfying for you?

hey it could be worse, he could've incipacitated the mass relays leaving the galaxy in a galactic dark..........well bugeer

[Ridwan]

JohnShepard12 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

No, and I'll say what many of you "artsy" and "mature" types won't say out loud. It should've ended with Shepard toasting a can of beer with Garrus and co. over a dead Reaper corpse, then a cut scene of some speech about how we will remember the losses and how we have shown the galaxy that we make our own path.
And finally Shepard heads back to Liara and mentions something of the line of "Now about those blue babies" kiss, fade to black, the end.

Bioware/EA: "We couldn't do that! That's what people were hoping for!"

Trust me EA would've loved an ending like this. It would mean a garantied sequel with Shepard.

[crimzontearz]

M25105 wrote...

JohnShepard12 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

No, and I'll say what many of you "artsy" and "mature" types won't say out loud. It should've ended with Shepard toasting a can of beer with Garrus and co. over a dead Reaper corpse, then a cut scene of some speech about how we will remember the losses and how we have shown the galaxy that we make our own path.
And finally Shepard heads back to Liara and mentions something of the line of "Now about those blue babies" kiss, fade to black, the end.

Bioware/EA: "We couldn't do that! That's what people were hoping for!"

Trust me EA would've loved an ending like this. It would mean a garantied sequel with Shepard.

I still wonder what exactly the feedback from EA will be now aside from what we have heard so far through job listings and whatnot


 
Because Bioware can say EA has an hands off policy with them but EA has publicly stated otherwise