I regret nothing, Shep seems to regret everything thoughRaeAlethea wrote...
What has been seen...cannot be unseen. Seriously, I need brain soap after that.Greylycantrope wrote...
Sure is, its creates whole new possibilities in terms of romance alone.
~snip~
Greylycantrope wrote...
I regret nothing, Shep seems to regret everything thoughRaeAlethea wrote...
What has been seen...cannot be unseen. Seriously, I need brain soap after that.Greylycantrope wrote...
Sure is, its creates whole new possibilities in terms of romance alone.
~snip~
Modifié par Seival, 30 octobre 2012 - 08:14 .
Seival wrote...
Greylycantrope wrote...
I regret nothing, Shep seems to regret everything thoughRaeAlethea wrote...
What has been seen...cannot be unseen. Seriously, I need brain soap after that.Greylycantrope wrote...
Sure is, its creates whole new possibilities in terms of romance alone.
~snip~
Your picture show nothing but complete misunderstanding of Synthesis concept. Let me show correct images to fix your confusion.
This face shows only amazement.IElitePredatorI wrote...
Look how happy he is.
Seival wrote...
I wonder if we will find out something about unknown Saren activities (during or pre ME1... or both) in the upcoming DLC. That would be very interesting. Something like recorded conversations between Saren and Liara's mother maybe.
Seival wrote...
Q: But there is no Crucible. How could they implement the solution?
A: Nazara connected itself to the Citadel Tower plysically. Saren and the Geth were already inside, so Nazara's goal wasn't system hacking. Reaper dreadnoughts clearly have overpowered energy sources to generate such strong shields and mass effect fields. Nazara could be repurposed before to be used as a Crucible analogy.
mvaning wrote...
Seival wrote...
Q: But there is no Crucible. How could they implement the solution?
A: Nazara connected itself to the Citadel Tower plysically. Saren and the Geth were already inside, so Nazara's goal wasn't system hacking. Reaper dreadnoughts clearly have overpowered energy sources to generate such strong shields and mass effect fields. Nazara could be repurposed before to be used as a Crucible analogy.
I don't think so.
Reason 1 --
Shepard asks the catalyst "Why didn't you stop it?" (in reference to the Crucible)
The Catalyst answers: "We believed the concept had been eradicated"
The Catalyst also states that he is the embodiment of all reaper life. If the reapers were under the impression that they had eradicated the concept of the Crucible, then it is unlikely that Sovereign's intention were to be repurposed into something that they had just previously eradicated.
Reason 2 --
The catalyst states that the "The Crucible has changed me, opened up new possibilities" If these possibilities were previously unavailable, there is no reason to think that the Catalyst would work towards a goal that is not within his parameters.
Reason 3 -- "The Crucible has changed me" This imples that a change had to occur in order for these new possibilities to become available. Before the change, his solution was the only way.
Reason 4 -- If it was within the Catalyst's abilitiy to use a reaper as a Crucible, there would be no reason for the Catalyst to eradicate the plans for the Crucible in previous cycles.
Modifié par Seival, 10 février 2013 - 06:38 .
Seival wrote...
mvaning wrote...
Reason 1 --
Shepard asks the catalyst "Why didn't you stop it?" (in reference to the Crucible)
The Catalyst answers: "We believed the concept had been eradicated"
The Catalyst also states that he is the embodiment of all reaper life. If the reapers were under the impression that they had eradicated the concept of the Crucible, then it is unlikely that Sovereign's intention were to be repurposed into something that they had just previously eradicated.
About reason 1
The Catalyst learned about the Crucible and decided to keep the concept only to itself for more study. It didn't want to "leave explosives to monkeys". Nothing illogical here.
mvaning wrote...
Seival wrote...
mvaning wrote...
Reason 1 --
Shepard asks the catalyst "Why didn't you stop it?" (in reference to the Crucible)
The Catalyst answers: "We believed the concept had been eradicated"
The Catalyst also states that he is the embodiment of all reaper life. If the reapers were under the impression that they had eradicated the concept of the Crucible, then it is unlikely that Sovereign's intention were to be repurposed into something that they had just previously eradicated.
About reason 1
The Catalyst learned about the Crucible and decided to keep the concept only to itself for more study. It didn't want to "leave explosives to monkeys". Nothing illogical here.
I think that's a stretch. If the Catalyst kept the knowledge for itself, it would not have stated "We believed the concept had been eradicated."
Those are strong words. The statement "We believe" implies factial knowledge. Eradication, by definition, is
" to do away with as completely as if by pulling up by the roots "
If the catalyst did away with the concept completely, as it states that it does, then it would not have kept the knowledge for itself. If it did keep the knowledge for itself, then it basically lied to Shepard when it stated "We believed the concept had been eradicated" Now I agree with the idea that the catalyst is capable of lying. (different topic). However, I don't see a reason for the Catalyst to logically lie about this.
Modifié par Seival, 10 février 2013 - 07:11 .
So it doesn't matter that the Reapers put the ideas of synthesis and control into Saren and TIM's minds? If TIM had tech that could control the Reapers, why did the Reapers want this?Seival wrote...
TIM was also indoctrinated, but...
...the Illusive Man was right after all.
Being indoctrinated doesn't mean being wrong.
Modifié par Drewton, 10 février 2013 - 07:40 .
Seival wrote...
Eradicated among lesser races' development patterns - logical enough (just remove all clues about the schematics and the device itself, and lesser races will not be able to build it).
Destroy some unique device's schematics without studying them - not logical at all.
Modifié par mvaning, 10 février 2013 - 09:12 .
The catalyst never said that.Samtheman63 wrote...
I thought it was inevitable that synthetics would wipe out organics if the reapers didnt intervine?
But synthesis is also inevitable? wat
lying piece of ****
ps, destroy
Listen, Look up the definiton of symbiosis. Once you know what that is, you'll know why it inevitable.Drewton wrote...
So it doesn't matter that the Reapers put the ideas of synthesis and control into Saren and TIM's minds? If TIM had tech that could control the Reapers, why did the Reapers want this?Seival wrote...
TIM was also indoctrinated, but...
...the Illusive Man was right after all.
Being indoctrinated doesn't mean being wrong.
Saren could have gotten to the decision chamber on the Citadel and ME1, chosen synthesis, and been the hero by your logic.
Every indoctrinated character has one thing in common, at least until they break hold of it: being convinced that destroying the Reapers is wrong.
"Symbiosis (from Ancient Greek σύν "together" and βίωσις "living") is close and often long-term interaction between two or more different biological species."dreman9999 wrote...
Listen, Look up the definiton of symbiosis. Once you know what that is, you'll know why it inevitable.
In fact, it's already happening in the MEU and our world.
Modifié par Drewton, 10 février 2013 - 09:15 .
Seival wrote...
TIM was also indoctrinated, but...
...the Illusive Man was right after all.
Being indoctrinated doesn't mean being wrong.
Enlighten me why they arenot thesame thing?mvaning wrote...
Symbiosis and Synthesis are two different things. The middle choice(synthesis) is not symbiosis.
The theory can workwith oraganics and machines as well. It's called cybernetic implantation. This is well in the meu.Drewton wrote...
"Symbiosis (from Ancient Greek σύν "together" and βίωσις "living") is close and often long-term interaction between two or more different biological species."dreman9999 wrote...
Listen, Look up the definiton of symbiosis. Once you know what that is, you'll know why it inevitable.
In fact, it's already happening in the MEU and our world.
Machines like Geth aren't a biological species. And machines and organics can have a symbiotic relationship without any kind of synthesis.
I don't see computers becoming organic with souls and humans becoming computers in our world. In the MEU, half machines/half organics are called Reapers.
Naturally occuring merging of organics and machines is neither inevitable nor possible.
Modifié par Drewton, 10 février 2013 - 09:38 .
Nartural. It has nothing to do with natural. This development is an evolution of the concept of tools. Ofcousre weare the one that aregoing to allyit to ourselves, that's is how tools are made and developed.Drewton wrote...
Yeah, of course. But cybernetic implantation isn't natural, so it's not inevitable.
And there is no way to make a computer "alive".
How is it not? It inevitable out of covienance and need. Think of it like the sperad the the celuler phone. The benifits of cybernetic agmenttions are extremely attractive. It's not just getting a new eye, arm of leg. The meu has gray box that computers stored in the body that interact with the mind. In combat, the implants give soldiers an edge as seen with Shepard and biotics.Drewton wrote...
I'm not saying it's not a form of evolution,but how is it inevitable? And what exactly is inevitable? If you're not saying that everything will inevitably be synthesized, what's your point?
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