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[upsettingshorts]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

I honestly believed that the OGB was to play a central role in the series

...did you really think the fact he might not even exist at all was not an obstacle to this expectation?

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 22 octobre 2012 - 07:55 .

[DarthLaxian]

well somehow I have the bad feeling they already used OGB - just i ME3 (Catalyst anyone? ^^)

no, really I would want to learn about the child...but, there should be the option not to have that at all, because a lot of wardens didn't have him (because either they died, sacrificed Loghain or sacrificed Allistair!)

greetings LAX

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

I honestly believed that the OGB was to play a central role in the series

...did you really think the fact he might not even exist at all was not an obstacle to this expectation?

Diddnt stop Leliana so not really.

In all seriousness there was nothing stopping Bioware from adopting a canon storyline for use in the sequels, I dont believe they created the expectation that the player's choices would carry over to the sequels like they did with the Mass Effect series and honestly I wouldnt mind if they did retcon a few of my choices if it did lead to a better story.

[TK514]

I kicked Morrigan to the curb and if we never see her again it will be too soon, so I'm more than happy to let this theoretical baby plotline wither on the vine and be forgotten. If it needs to be addressed, and I can understand why those who loved Morrigan or who are attached to the OGB for whatever reason would want it to be, I'd say it's best handled in other media with variable cannon status.

Modifié par TK514, 22 octobre 2012 - 01:45 .

[Aulis Vaara]

TK514 wrote...

I kicked Morrigan to the curb and if we never see her again it will be too soon, so I'm more than happy to let this theoretical baby plotline wither on the vine and be forgotten. If it needs to be addressed, and I can understand why those who loved Morrigan or who are attached to the OGB for whatever reason would want it to be, I'd say it's best handled in other media with variable cannon status.

canon*

Also, no, it should not be addressed in other media. That would leave too many gamers out in the cold. It is however, something that should be addressed based on the choice you made in Origins. This is the biggest decision in Origins and it feels like a world-changer. It should be exactly that. If that means it can only come to fruition during the Dragon Age's closing moments, I can wait, but I (and many, many others) want to see this play out, and not just from one side.

[clanogrady]

The only reason for the OGB is to have some sort of leverage against the darkspawn. It makes sense that the reason why it needs to be kept beyond the veil is so that the darkspawn cant hear it. Otherwise though there are other options to lure darkspawn such as Grey wardens, Original darkspawn, other old gods, whatever else Flemeth has been saving up for such an occasion to kill them all.

Hopefully, BIoware can write something that can change some sort of quest of OGB vs no OGB instead of having a rachni queen being preserved by space magic to have the same mission and choices in the game.

[TK514]

Aulis Vaara wrote...

TK514 wrote...

I kicked Morrigan to the curb and if we never see her again it will be too soon, so I'm more than happy to let this theoretical baby plotline wither on the vine and be forgotten. If it needs to be addressed, and I can understand why those who loved Morrigan or who are attached to the OGB for whatever reason would want it to be, I'd say it's best handled in other media with variable cannon status.

canon*

Also, no, it should not be addressed in other media. That would leave too many gamers out in the cold. It is however, something that should be addressed based on the choice you made in Origins. This is the biggest decision in Origins and it feels like a world-changer. It should be exactly that. If that means it can only come to fruition during the Dragon Age's closing moments, I can wait, but I (and many, many others) want to see this play out, and not just from one side.

How is it the biggest decision in Origins?  It's an 11th hour 'oh, by the way...' that didn't even require me to think about it before turning her down.

Every other major decision that touched on stopping the Blight was more important.

At least if the OGB plotline is dealt with in other media, you get to have it dealt with in a meaningful fashion without impacting people like myself who don't have a save where it happened.  I don't have to buy the book/comic/DLC/whatever and still get a complete story.  If it were brought up in game, either the choice is being  on people like me, or it is trivialized in order to make the story work both ways.

My way, everyone wins, while your way is pretty Zero Sum.

[Perlicka]

I hope, that Morrigan went through mirror to some diffrent world and we won't be able to see/know where she is or what she is doing

[hadrain77]

I'm very curious how bioware will handle the OGB just because the many obstacles you have to overcome just to make the OGB. Will Bioware retcon it like they did Lileanna, Awakenings when your warden is dead, and Rachni from ME3 or will they let your import stand as is.

To get the OGB, the ritual requires that your warden be newly minted because according to Morrigan an older warden would be too tainted and the ritual wouldn't work, why Flemeth ordered Morrigan to go with you. According to the information at the time we know that you and Allistar were the only Wardens in Ferelden because most where banished or dead. Morrigan also needed to be close to the archdemon when it died in order to have its soul travel to her unborn child. There where other obstacles such as you never allowed Morrigan to come with your or you where such a ****** to her that she left your party before even getting to the Archdemon.

Like I said very curious how this will be handled.

Modifié par hadrain77, 22 octobre 2012 - 03:27 .

[Aulis Vaara]

TK514 wrote...

My way, everyone wins, while your way is pretty Zero Sum.

Did you even read my post? I clearly stated it should be in the game BOTH WAYS, as something that didn't happen and as something that did happen, depending on the choice that you made. You THINK they can only put it in the game by either canonising the child, or by making it an irrelevant detail, but that's simply not true. They can make it a significant decision while not detracting from the rest of the game, the easiest way to do this, is to let it come to fruition in the end-game when they no longer have to worry about future titles.

And yes, in terms of decisions, this one was the biggest. Even if YOU made the choice rapidly, this is one choice that you can see having far-reaching consequences in the world of Thedas. You're giving someone the soul of an Old God or keeping it from them. What consequences this has, we do not know yet, but usually when Old God souls are involved, this means a Blight is happening.  That's a pretty big event, the question is if something similar will happen with an untainted Old God as well. That in itself is a pretty big answer to the mysteries of Thedas.

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@hadrain77 : As far as I know, Morrigan always shows up to offer you the deal at the end of the game, even if you made her leave the party. So the only things to keep in mind are whether or not you allowed the baby to be conceived.

Modifié par Aulis Vaara, 22 octobre 2012 - 03:31 .

[hadrain77]

Aulis Vaara wrote...

@hadrain77 : As far as I know, Morrigan always shows up to offer you the deal at the end of the game, even if you made her leave the party. So the only things to keep in mind are whether or not you allowed the baby to be conceived.

Wow, that makes me think that the OGB will be cannon no matter what you do. Strange though if you never took her with you or drove her away, to have some stranger you don't really know come to you and offer you a deal like that at the last minute.

Modifié par hadrain77, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:33 .

[Caiden012]

I think that if you made the choice it should be addressed. I was a HUGE choice for those who made it. I don't even get to play as my Warden anymore but whatever happened to his child is defiantly still on my mind every time I play.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

hadrain77 wrote...

Aulis Vaara wrote...

@hadrain77 : As far as I know, Morrigan always shows up to offer you the deal at the end of the game, even if you made her leave the party. So the only things to keep in mind are whether or not you allowed the baby to be conceived.

Wow, that makes me think that the OGB will be cannon no matter what you do. Strange though if you never took her with you or drove her away, to have some stranger you don't really know come to you and offer you a deal like that at the last minute.

Why would she be a stranger when you met her twice already?

[hadrain77]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

hadrain77 wrote...

Aulis Vaara wrote...

@hadrain77 : As far as I know, Morrigan always shows up to offer you the deal at the end of the game, even if you made her leave the party. So the only things to keep in mind are whether or not you allowed the baby to be conceived.

Wow, that makes me think that the OGB will be cannon no matter what you do. Strange though if you never took her with you or drove her away, to have some stranger you don't really know come to you and offer you a deal like that at the last minute.

Why would she be a stranger when you met her twice already?

Well considering Origins spans over a year if you kicked her out and never got to know her she would be a stranger to you.  Why? Do you consider people you barely know and have met once or twice friends and not strangers? If you do then maybe its just me.

Modifié par hadrain77, 22 octobre 2012 - 09:51 .

[Imp of the Perverse]

Anaeme wrote...

Bioware missed an opportunity with that god baby...they missed a chance for a character with immense potential.

That baby could permanently solve the darkspawn problem if he reach full potential

Isn't  the darkspawn problem about solved anyway? There are only two old gods left, and once they're gone, the darkspawn will no longer have any motivation to invade the surface. I think it'd be cool if those last two were discovered simultaneously by the darkspawn, so we got a double blight right in the middle of the mage/templar war, and maybe a qunari invasion as well. Of course, it'd be smarter to save some of that stuff for future sequels.

I do think the god baby is one of the most interesting elements in the DA universe, I'm really hoping Bioware can figure out a way to properly develop it. They don't seem to like developing content that will only be seen in some playthroughs (see their justification for bringing back the rachni in ME3 for those that exterminated them.)

[Minttymint]

Even thought the OGB happened in my canon play through Id rather not see him or Morrigan again. In fact I don't want to see any old companions back in a significant way... There's just way too many complications. Just because Morrigan has had an OGB doesn't mean her story needs to continue its interesting, yes but her story is done in my opinion.

[Terrorize69]

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

Calob wrote...

Now I know people haven't forgot about him and be I haven't seen or heard much of his invlovment in Dragon Age 3: Inquisition. Now I know he doesn't have to happend and if not, then those players don't have him as an important piece in the game but lets say you had the child or Alistair had the child, what now? Witch Hunt happend 2 years after the events of Origins, the baby is atleast 2 years old. Now, add on to that Dragon Age 2 took ten years to transpire and the child is atleast 10 years old by now and then at the end of Dragon Age 2 more time goes by and by the start of DA3, the child has to be like 14, so he'd be a teenager. Am I the only one interested to find out about him?

Is your math ok?

Origins-Witch hunt=2 years
2 years -9 months=1 year and 3 months,now how is that at least 2 years???

Dragon age 2 starts at the same time as origins,so you can't count both the time that passed in DA2 and the time that passed between DA:witch hunt. and Origins

The child is 8 years and 3 months old at the end of DA2

Becouse the END OF DAO(the sexy time with morrigan)=THE START OF DA 2 ACT II

That is 9 years-9 months=8 years and 3 months

EDIT:And by the way,no I am not interested in having a god child.

Not sure if anyone corrected this but.... The end of DAO = The start of DA2 Act 1

[KiwiQuiche]

sunnydxmen wrote...

God child like mass effect 3 god child .he will appear to give us 3 endings green red and blue lol.

Oh damn, kill it with fire.