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#251
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I agree with you. This is a game I put a lot of time and money into and I didn't buy it so I could speculate about what did or didn't happen. Shepard's death should either be honorable and present in all endings, or nonexistent in all of them (meaning he lives).

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Pheonix57 wrote...

I agree with you. This is a game I put a lot of time and money into and I didn't buy it so I could speculate about what did or didn't happen. Shepard's death should either be honorable and present in all endings, or nonexistent in all of them (meaning he lives).

To be fair this statement is contradicting because ME like most series aren't designed on an individual basis.

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Actually, since they're not going to use Shepard anymore, and since BioWare did write "The Darkspawn Chronicles" which is non-canon for Dragon Age, and they were owned by EA at the time, too, they could write a non-canon DLC for the Destroy ending where Shepard gets rescued out of that pile of rubble and has a reunion with at least their love interest. There is a market for it. I don't think it would take them that long to do. Hell, I'd buy the thing. It's not like it would be free.

They gave proper closure for Control and Synthesis in the EC. In the interest of fairness, I say why the hell not? They can even say non-canon if they want, I don't care. Purchase and installation of the package gives 400 war assets as an added incentive to buy it, although I hardly think that would be a necessary incentive, just a cool added feature.

It's also quite simple to have it not affect any save import to any future game if they're going to do that. I doubt they are going to have an import to the next game anyway since it doesn't involve Shepard in any manner.

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spirosz wrote...

They won't and have repeated this so many times. I'm in the same boat as you, but honestly, it's best to just deal with it and move on, even though it sucks to think about it.

Believe me, I would love this:

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But I know it won't happen.


We can only wish for this game to have been made by Eidos Monreal. In that case we would just need to be extrrrremely good at hitting targets and tactics.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Actually, since they're not going to use Shepard anymore, and since BioWare did write "The Darkspawn Chronicles" which is non-canon for Dragon Age, and they were owned by EA at the time, too, they could write a non-canon DLC for the Destroy ending where Shepard gets rescued out of that pile of rubble and has a reunion with at least their love interest. There is a market for it. I don't think it would take them that long to do. Hell, I'd buy the thing. It's not like it would be free.

They gave proper closure for Control and Synthesis in the EC. In the interest of fairness, I say why the hell not? They can even say non-canon if they want, I don't care. Purchase and installation of the package gives 400 war assets as an added incentive to buy it, although I hardly think that would be a necessary incentive, just a cool added feature.

It's also quite simple to have it not affect any save import to any future game if they're going to do that. I doubt they are going to have an import to the next game anyway since it doesn't involve Shepard in any manner.


Given how much demand there is for something like this, I would hope they'd make soemthing like this.

But I do not trust to hope.  It has forsaken this place...:(

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spirosz wrote...

They won't and have repeated this so many times. I'm in the same boat as you, but honestly, it's best to just deal with it and move on, even though it sucks to think about it.

Believe me, I would love this:

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But I know it won't happen.


It only won't happen because Thane is dead. Otherwise it SHOULD be an option.

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Pheonix57 wrote...

I agree with you. This is a game I put a lot of time and money into and I didn't buy it so I could speculate about what did or didn't happen.


Mass Effect 4: Speculation. Bioware gives us a vague hint and we get to make up the ending. I can do that for a lot less than 80 bucks.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

So you enjoy paying$80+ to headcanon an ending to a story?

Its very bad to judge a single game based on qn entire series.  The logical thing is that you shouldn't judge ME3 based on ME like Halo 4 with the Halo series, Assassin's Creed 3 with the AC series, Resident Evil 6 with the RE series, and so on.

N7 Assass1n wrote...

There is no point. I have the same opinion as well, but they don't care. Any essence of pride they had making the series (Or any game they make/made for that matter) is gone. This is so blatantly evident in ME3, DA2 etc. Its now just time to watch them burn there own creation into the ground and further distance themselves away from the community that made them.

It sounds like the "fans" don't really care what ME is unless if they get what they want, which is a very bad idea.

darthoptimus003 wrote...

yeah i sure as hell didnt pay this kind of money just to imagine what happens 
i said this awhile ago this crap is borderline theft if not stait up theft so i hope the puzzel theory is true cause its still a good game up till the last 20min that is the only reason im still playing this game and buying the dlcs cause it is a good game and maybe they intend to fix this

You must not be a  RPG fan especially when looking at Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Final Fantasy, and KotOR to name a few.

marcustheMezz wrote...

 Just move on, Bioware just doesn't care about the fanbase. This isn't about their artistic integrity, they deliberately made the ending like it was so it would be as open as possible for future sequels. They sold out Shepard just to make making ME4 a little easier, as soon as I learned this I realized they would never really admit they f***ed up, they would never honestly fix it(EC was only done because of how much sh!t the fanbase was flipping), they would never listen to us, because they don't care anymore. I know it was mostly EA's doing, so as long as Bioware is owned by them, I'm never touching another game they make.

Thats a farse but whatever makes you sleep at night.

jakal66 wrote...

It's just sad they couldn't exapand on that in the EC...I was so naive to think they were going to.But I still have hope something will happen...as I stated before a fool's hope but what can I do...

No matter what was going to happen there was going to a small uproar because its the end of a trilogy.  It sounds like you're expecting another Shepard game, which isn't going to happen.


I don't want another shep game, I want destroy properly closed, I mean hig ems destroy, if they inteded for the breath scene to mean he lives...expand on that.If they intended for that scene to mean he dies...expand on that.

Either way...that needs closure.I know what happened to my beloved Shep in High ems Control,I do too in High ems Synthesis but for the love of mass effect I don't know what happened to him in High EMS destroy... I am left to imagine that and I dont feel I deserve to do that.More so now that he's not coming to ME4---

He could retire and live off the vids hhahaha

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I'm more amused by the fact that they seem to think that people enjoy Mass Effect because of the story, when it's more about the characters, since every Mass Effect plot has been boring and not that interesting without them.

I personally enjoyed chasing Saren, blowing up Sovereign and talking to Vigil more than the story about stopping the villains from unleashing the apocalypse, because they were interesting characters. If they hadn't been interesting and the ship crew as well as other characters in the universe hadn't shown the same potential, then ME1 would had been unbelievably generic.

Same with ME2 and ME3. I couldn't care less about the plot, because it's nothing new or that intriguing and it had some rather lame twists and turns. The characters were what made the games enjoyable/endurable for me.

Then again, the opposite applies to bad characters, like the Catalyst and Kai Leng.

Oh boy, did they turn every scene/mission they were involved with into a tedious decent to mediocrity. They did it remarkably fast too.

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jakal66 wrote...
I don't want another shep game, I want destroy properly closed, I mean hig ems destroy, if they inteded for the breath scene to mean he lives...expand on that.If they intended for that scene to mean he dies...expand on that.

Either way...that needs closure.I know what happened to my beloved Shep in High ems Control,I do too in High ems Synthesis but for the love of mass effect I don't know what happened to him in High EMS destroy... I am left to imagine that and I dont feel I deserve to do that.More so now that he's not coming to ME4---

He could retire and live off the vids hhahaha


Apparently Bioware is afraid to go back on their word after declaring there would be no more ending DLC, despite the fact that they were perfectly comfortable going back on many words when they actually created the game and released it.

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JohnShepard12 wrote...

jakal66 wrote...
I don't want another shep game, I want destroy properly closed, I mean hig ems destroy, if they inteded for the breath scene to mean he lives...expand on that.If they intended for that scene to mean he dies...expand on that.

Either way...that needs closure.I know what happened to my beloved Shep in High ems Control,I do too in High ems Synthesis but for the love of mass effect I don't know what happened to him in High EMS destroy... I am left to imagine that and I dont feel I deserve to do that.More so now that he's not coming to ME4---

He could retire and live off the vids hhahaha


Apparently Bioware is afraid to go back on their word after declaring there would be no more ending DLC, despite the fact that they were perfectly comfortable going back on many words when they actually created the game and released it.


ME3 is like a Demo.

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iakus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Actually, since they're not going to use Shepard anymore, and since BioWare did write "The Darkspawn Chronicles" which is non-canon for Dragon Age, and they were owned by EA at the time, too, they could write a non-canon DLC for the Destroy ending where Shepard gets rescued out of that pile of rubble and has a reunion with at least their love interest. There is a market for it. I don't think it would take them that long to do. Hell, I'd buy the thing. It's not like it would be free.

They gave proper closure for Control and Synthesis in the EC. In the interest of fairness, I say why the hell not? They can even say non-canon if they want, I don't care. Purchase and installation of the package gives 400 war assets as an added incentive to buy it, although I hardly think that would be a necessary incentive, just a cool added feature.

It's also quite simple to have it not affect any save import to any future game if they're going to do that. I doubt they are going to have an import to the next game anyway since it doesn't involve Shepard in any manner.


Given how much demand there is for something like this, I would hope they'd make soemthing like this.

But I do not trust to hope.  It has forsaken this place...:(

To be fair there isn't that much of a demand for this and I see no resason to do so.

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jakal66 wrote...

I don't want another shep game, I want destroy properly closed, I mean hig ems destroy, if they inteded for the breath scene to mean he lives...expand on that.If they intended for that scene to mean he dies...expand on that.

Either way...that needs closure.I know what happened to my beloved Shep in High ems Control,I do too in High ems Synthesis but for the love of mass effect I don't know what happened to him in High EMS destroy... I am left to imagine that and I dont feel I deserve to do that.More so now that he's not coming to ME4---

He could retire and live off the vids hhahaha

Bioware doesn't need to expand on that scene unless if they decide to do something with it.  The only two possibilities for a scenario to expand on that is if Shepard's kid or clone was the protagonist in ME4.

Closure is a subjective word by nature.   There's a reason why there's no high EMS endings for Control and Synthesis.

Thats just very odd.

JohnShepard12 wrote...

Apparently Bioware is afraid to go back on their word after declaring there would be no more ending DLC, despite the fact that they were perfectly comfortable going back on many words when they actually created the game and released it.

Haters gonna hate and its funny that you're still here when you hate ME3 so much.  No game is free of rage while its ironic that some have forgot about the small uproars in ME1 and ME2.

Xellith wrote...

ME3 is like a Demo.

If this is truely the case then I'm surprised you're going after ME3 instead of ME2.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 22 octobre 2012 - 02:42 .


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I feel the same OP. After spending over a hundred hours and spending as much money on the series, my hero Shepard ends underneath some rubble.

I'm afraid Bioware deosn't care that some of their customers are still unhappy about the endings.

Casey Hudson
“Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get
some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.”
http://venturebeat.c...fans-interview/

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I wouldn't like a "stance" taken any further then what they already have to be honest.
Anything that bioware would come up with would vary quite a lot than how I would imagine my various Shepard's spending out their lives.

I like the ambiguity of it, does he become some reclusive hermit living secretly in the bowls of the citadel? Is he actually on earth and narrowly escaped Indoctrination?
Will he get found, retire and live a happy life? Which LI is shepard in love with?

I'm fine with the breathe scene in destroy.

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Gtacatalina wrote...

I feel the same OP. After spending over a hundred hours and spending as much money on the series, my hero Shepard ends underneath some rubble.

I'm afraid Bioware deosn't care that some of their customers are still unhappy about the endings.

Casey Hudson
“Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get
some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.”
http://venturebeat.c...fans-interview/

Thats a strawman especially when everyone wasn't happy with ME1 and ME2.  Why would you expect that ME3 would be loved by everyone when the previous two titles in the series weren't loved by all.

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I'm with OP. Even would be willing to pay for a DLC where the Normandy crew goes back to search for shepard and finds him/her with help from Liara's network as the shadowbroker (would be fitting to put it to use in this case if you chose destroy and got that breath scene. Of course it should:

1. Get some closure with LI - a final love scene with conversation options.

2. conversation options with all the crew.

3. Maybe have a moment where they decide they are all in on it. Would be funny if they went rogue to do it but nice if Hackett approved especially if it referenced Arrival with him saying something like "We owe Shepard that much. I personally owe Shepard that much for a favor she/he once did for me. DO IT!" - That's assuming they have contact with hackett given the state of the relays. If not, establish that fact and how long it will take them to get to earth from where they are. Months maybe? Cover the logistics. Hackett might have not gone far as I'm thinking Jeff wouldn't have either so six months could work.

4. They find Shepard in a makeshift hospital or real one. They bring shepard back to the ship.

5. It would be awesome to have a LI scene with LI doting over shepard like post eden prime even if it's a different
character, it would be a nice full circle moment.

6. Then Shepard is back  on his/her feet, injured, but recovering. Conversations with all the crew.

7. Hackett and Shepard talking via com or maybe actual visit from Hackett because dammit he should see shepard in person. Conversation about Illusive Man and Anderson and mention of the choices given would be interesting. At least some mention of Illusive man and Anderson's death.

8. LI scene hat has nice choices. A nice conversation about whether they want to retire, continue with the alliance as soldiers, help rebuild, work in some other capacity for the alliance, marry and have children, etc. Finish with a love scene and maybe comments about the decision you just made with LI about the future.

Honestly, it would be the EASIEST DLC ever. No fighting. No battle. Just some cut scenes and conversations. CLOSURE. The breath scene ending is so crappy that to me it's worth it to pay for the closure. And honestly, I wonder if people would change from control/synthesis to have their shepard alive again. Would be interesting to see.

Really, what doesn't fit is that they don't go back. Shepard had the fire that amassed a galaxy behind him/her and had people follow him/her on a suicide mission and to ilos! People followed shepard willingly and now they don't even bother to go back and search? How does that not happen? How does that crew NOT choose to do that? How do they just let if be, presume shepard's dead and not even try to look?

Modifié par starlitegirlx, 22 octobre 2012 - 03:49 .


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starlitegirlx wrote...

I'm with OP. Even would be willing to pay for a DLC where the Normandy crew goes back to search for shepard and finds him/her with help from Liara's network as the shadowbroker (would be fitting to put it to use in this case if you chose destroy and got that breath scene. Of course it should:

1. Get some closure with LI - a final love scene with conversation options.

2. conversation options with all the crew.

3. Maybe have a moment where they decide they are all in on it. Would be funny if they went rogue to do it but nice if Hackett approved especially if it referenced Arrival with him saying something like "We owe Shepard that much. I personally owe Shepard that much for a favor she/he once did for me. DO IT!" - That's assuming they have contact with hackett given the state of the relays. If not, establish that fact and how long it will take them to get to earth from where they are. Months maybe? Cover the logistics. Hackett might have not gone far as I'm thinking Jeff wouldn't have either so six months could work.

4. They find Shepard in a makeshift hospital or real one. They bring shepard back to the ship.

5. It would be awesome to have a LI scene with LI doting over shepard like post eden prime even if it's a different
character, it would be a nice full circle moment.

6. Then Shepard is back  on his/her feet, injured, but recovering. Conversations with all the crew.

7. Hackett and Shepard talking via com or maybe actual visit from Hackett because dammit he should see shepard in person. Conversation about Illusive Man and Anderson and mention of the choices given would be interesting. At least some mention of Illusive man and Anderson's death.

8. LI scene hat has nice choices. A nice conversation about whether they want to retire, continue with the alliance as soldiers, help rebuild, work in some other capacity for the alliance, marry and have children, etc. Finish with a love scene and maybe comments about the decision you just made with LI about the future.

Honestly, it would be the EASIEST DLC ever. No fighting. No battle. Just some cut scenes and conversations. CLOSURE. The breath scene ending is so crappy that to me it's worth it to pay for the closure. And honestly, I wonder if people would change from control/synthesis to have their shepard alive again. Would be interesting to see.

Really, what doesn't fit is that they don't go back. Shepard had the fire that amassed a galaxy behind him/her and had people follow him/her on a suicide mission and to ilos! People followed shepard willingly and now they don't even bother to go back and search? How does that not happen? How does that crew NOT choose to do that? How do they just let if be, presume shepard's dead and not even try to look?

To be fair this DLC is far from easy based on there's a lot of unneccessary varaiation and this would cause more meaningless issues.  Its easy to say it would be easy without hearing that ME3 has over 65,000 plotlines in ME3 with imports and without DLC.  Really more doesn't mean better which does decribe this scenario pretty well especially when you factor in the variations of personal taste that everyone has.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 23 octobre 2012 - 04:32 .


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Dlc with cinematics in the game engine showing us what happens to shepard would be great.

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FOX216BC wrote...

Dlc with cinematics in the game engine showing us what happens to shepard would be great.

Ironically that already happened with the EC.

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Doesn't bother me.

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i would have liked an epilouge with a "its finaly over chat" with the remaning crew/squad members. and end it with a choise of what shepard does for the rest of his/her life with or without a love intrest

for shepard to die in the destroy ending with hig ems after bying his/her own life with the destruction of edi and the geth is just wrong,     you already got the choise to kill shepard with the other endings gaining  other "rewards"                

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Blueprotoss wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Dlc with cinematics in the game engine showing us what happens to shepard would be great.

Ironically that already happened with the EC.


Ironically you're wrong. 

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Shadrach 88 wrote...

spirosz wrote...


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But I know it won't happen.


WHY IS JAVIK GROPING KASUMI


In his cycle, Japanese women were considered a delicacy.

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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Dlc with cinematics in the game engine showing us what happens to shepard would be great.

Ironically that already happened with the EC.


Ironically you're wrong. 

Yet thats how the EC was decribed while it did add dialogue and cutscenes.  It sounds like you never got to the end in ME3.