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[GimmeDaGun]

[quote]A Bethesda Fan wrote...

[quote]jakal66 wrote...

he typed been instead of being...big friggin deal grammar copper


And yes my original post was about that, we would like to know what happened to him after the breath scene, we are not satisfied with headcannoning the whole thing and thus the creation of the original post.

I am happy to see a lot of people wishing for the same thing...you never know we might get lucky...[/quote]

That was it? I didn't even notice.
I don't have a problem with his grammar been wrong here and there so I don't see why he should have a problem with mine been wrong sometimes.



You were not so forgiving with others (me included and all those who you disagree with) you hypocrite...

[quote]Bethesda FanJoined: 2012-09-27
Quote    Link Created 1 day ago[quote]Shepard108278 wrote...


Nog entierly true. The leviathians go back to the original and the cstalyst was built up during the game. I don't see messy stoytelling.

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Nog?
Original what? ME1? How so?
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Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 25 octobre 2012 - 10:33 .

[Biggboss0021]

AndreasShepard wrote...

spirosz wrote...

They won't and have repeated this so many times. I'm in the same boat as you, but honestly, it's best to just deal with it and move on, even though it sucks to think about it.

Believe me, I would love this:



But I know it won't happen.

If enough people express a desire to see it they may change their minds.  There's nothing wrong with saying we want to see what happens to a character we all grew to love over five years rather than be forced to headcanon it.  Plus they supposedly read these forums for suggestions.


even if they do something about it. u people will still **** and moan, cant u people just stfu and get over it.

[GimmeDaGun]

Biggboss0021 wrote...

AndreasShepard wrote...

spirosz wrote...

They won't and have repeated this so many times. I'm in the same boat as you, but honestly, it's best to just deal with it and move on, even though it sucks to think about it.

Believe me, I would love this:



But I know it won't happen.

If enough people express a desire to see it they may change their minds.  There's nothing wrong with saying we want to see what happens to a character we all grew to love over five years rather than be forced to headcanon it.  Plus they supposedly read these forums for suggestions.


even if they do something about it. u people will still **** and moan, cant u people just stfu and get over it.

Burn me at the stake, but that picture is so cheesy that I could throw up just for taking a look at it. Are you dead serious? This is how you want it to end? ... Well... oookay...

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 25 octobre 2012 - 10:32 .

[CaIIisto]

^^ I would hope that it's the idea behind the picture that's appealing, ie. reunion, rather than the picture itself. If it were done in that style, then I agree, it wouldn't work.

[GimmeDaGun]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Shepard108278 wrote...


Nog entierly true. The leviathians go back to the original and the cstalyst was built up during the game. I don't see messy stoytelling.

Nog?
Original what? ME1? How so?

You were not so forgiving with others (me included and all those who you disagree with) you hypocrite...

I was very forgiving towards you, not once did I call you out on grammar mistakes like you tried to do to me.
I was not even hating on his grammar, I just found "Nog" to sound funny, there was 50 other mistakes in his post and I didn't even say he should type better.
So I'm not a hypocrite.

Use of English =/= Grammar

I was disappointed with your use of English.
Stating the Catalyst is a "they" when it clearly is not.

What makes you think that I did not only find your mistake "only" funny?

Disappointed? I didn't know that you were my girlfriend or parents, friends or any coleague, mentor teacher of mine that you can be disappointed by me at all. 

Anyway, sure, blah, blah... my use of English was fine. You just did not want to understand what I meant to write. I even explained it to you twice, but you still insisted. And I never used "they" on the Catalyst,. Go back and read it again, if you will. You only wanted to tell me how I understand nothing and that I don't have the ability to communicate in English. The thing you call a debate is only your arrogant game in which you make your "debating partner" look incapable of understanding, or lacks the knowledge, the skills for using language etc.. While you want an ending in which Shep wakes up with LI and make a group photo with his\\her comrades... maaaaaan (girl?)!
Yeah, you might not be a hypocrite, but by your posts one could easily think that you are. You fooled me. Now, happy days my arrogant little friend!

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 25 octobre 2012 - 12:19 .

[GimmeDaGun]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Shepard108278 wrote...


Nog entierly true. The leviathians go back to the original and the cstalyst was built up during the game. I don't see messy stoytelling.

Nog?
Original what? ME1? How so?

You were not so forgiving with others (me included and all those who you disagree with) you hypocrite...

I was very forgiving towards you, not once did I call you out on grammar mistakes like you tried to do to me.
I was not even hating on his grammar, I just found "Nog" to sound funny, there was 50 other mistakes in his post and I didn't even say he should type better.
So I'm not a hypocrite.

Use of English =/= Grammar

I was disappointed with your use of English.
Stating the Catalyst is a "they" when it clearly is not.

Ok, sure, blah, blah... my use of English was fine. You just did not want to understand what I meant to write. I even explained it to you twice, but you still insisted. And I never used "they" on the Catalyst,. Go back and read it again, if you will. You only wanted to tell me how I understand nothing and that I don't have the ability to communicate in English. The thing you call a debate is only your arrogant game in which you make your "debating partner" look incapable of understanding, or lacks the knowledge, the skills for using language etc.. While you want end ending in which Shep wakes up with LI and make a group photo with hisher comrades... maaaaaan!
Yeah, you might not be a hypocrite, but by your posts one could easily think that you are. You fooled me. Now, happy days my arrogant little friend!

You said "they created the Reapers".
The Catalyst  created the Reapers, the catalyst is not a "they".

This brings me back to the point where you lack the understanding of the story.
How can I understand something that is illogical.

One last time, ok? I said that "they" the leviathans created the reapers (in general) - I know, that not directly - but by creating the Catalyst which is the first reaper - I know, that not an acutal capital ship - but the first reaper: it is the idea behind them, which gives them shape, goal and their essence, it is their collective knowledge etc.. So it is the first reaper: it created the first Cycle (the Cycle) and used it's huskified army to do it (play Leviathan, it's told in there). And yes it (the Catalyst) created the first "reaper (capital ship <- just for you), Harbinger which is made of the creators of the reapers (in general), the Leviathans after its (the Catalyst's) husk army harvested them. That's what I wrote there only without the literal explanations. And my bad, I used the same term for the Catalyst and for the reaper capital ships. That was the only thing that could have made it a bit confusing for people who have 2 bit brain capacities. 

Got it now? 

I know: "No, your use of English is lacking, your logic is flawed... blah, blah, blah... and the Catalyst is not a reaper.. blah, blah, blah..." well it is just a matter of using your brain a bit and let yourself interpret things, it's not such a big brainer. And despite you say that my English is lacking, you tend to understand my "insults" pretty well. 

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 25 octobre 2012 - 12:53 .

[GimmeDaGun]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...


One last time, ok? I said that "they" the leviathans created the reapers (in general) - I know, that not directly - but by creating the Catalyst which is the first reaper - I know, that not an acutal capital ship - but the first reaper: it is the idea behind them, which gives them shape, goal and their essence, it is their collective knowledge etc.. So it is the first reaper: it created the first Cycle (the Cycle) and used it's huskified army to do it (play Leviathan, it's told in there). And yes it (the Catalyst) created the first "reaper (capital ship <- just for you), Harbinger which is made of the creators of the reapers (in general), the Leviathans after its (the Catalyst's) husk army harvested them. That's what I wrote there only without the literal explanations. And my bad, I used the same term for the Catalyst and for the reaper capital ships. That was the only thing that could have made it a bit confusing for people who have 2 bit brain capacities. 

Got it now? 

I know: "No, your use of English is lacking, your logic is flawed... blah, blah, blah... and the Catalyst is not a reaper.. blah, blah, blah..." well it is just a matter of using your brain a bit and let yourself interpret things, it's not such a big brainer. And despite you say that my English is lacking, you tend to understand my "insults" pretty well. 

And then we get on to the next problem you had.

You said "They created the first Reaper(The AI)" and then later you said "They became the first Reaper".
This is illogical.
I can not understand it.

The Catalyst created the Reapers, play the game again as I'm sure it will tell you this.
Even the game thinks you're wrong.

This is not the next problem, it is exactly the same you kept talking about. 

:DDDDDD Now this is really ridiculous...you're truly hopless! Go and read your comic books, and whatch your cartoons: those are for you.

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 25 octobre 2012 - 02:51 .

[Yate]

GUYS

BIOWARE GIVING SHEPARD A CANON ENDING IS REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD

IT WILL MAKE PEOPLE MAD AND DISAPPOINTED

IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO COME UP WITH ENDINGS TO PLEASE THE ENTIRE FANBASE

[Blueprotoss]

iakus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...
To be fair closure varies from person to person and to do so would cause more harm then good.

Thenwould you say it's a bad thing that Shepard is definitively dead in every other ending?  Should Shepard's survival be open to speculation in all endings?

Shepard could be dead or alive while that choice is based on interpretation, which means I don't need a large amount of closure to be happy.

[Blueprotoss]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

His statement implied there was no closure for Shepard after the breath scene showing what happened.
You said EC supplied what happened to Shepard.

Closure varies from person to person and Bioware neer said closre was going to be applied to the "breath scene".

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

EC did not supply any further information as to what happened to Shepard.
You were wrong and now you're been arrogant.

Yet how can I be wrong when you're focusing on opinion rather then fact.  Nobody can't be wrong with opinions unless if someone tries to turn opinion into fact.

[Iakus]

Blueprotoss wrote...

iakus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...
To be fair closure varies from person to person and to do so would cause more harm then good.

Thenwould you say it's a bad thing that Shepard is definitively dead in every other ending?  Should Shepard's survival be open to speculation in all endings?

Shepard could be dead or alive while that choice is based on interpretation, which means I don't need a large amount of closure to be happy.

That's not what I asked.

SHould shepard's survival be ambiguous in all endings.  Keeping in mind that atm Shepard is in fact definitively killed off in all endings but the "breath scene"?

[Blueprotoss]

clennon8 wrote...

ZajoE38 wrote...

If you want happy end closure go watch cartoons for kids. ME is a drama. I love it that way.

Oh look. Someone who thinks he is all mature and sophisticated, but is really just a dimwit.

To be fair the true dimwit would be wasing time on the Internet to insult someone for no reason.

[jtav]

I've no problem with them all being ambiguous. If you believe that thought and memory is identity, then Shep didn't even die in Control.

[Iakus]

Yate wrote...

GUYS

BIOWARE GIVING SHEPARD A CANON ENDING IS REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD

IT WILL MAKE PEOPLE MAD AND DISAPPOINTED

IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO COME UP WITH ENDINGS TO PLEASE THE ENTIRE FANBASE

Nobody's talking about a "canon" ending.

We're talking about clarifying Shepard in a pile of rubble.  making it a little brighter.

[Blueprotoss]

iakus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Shepard could be dead or alive while that choice is based on interpretation, which means I don't need a large amount of closure to be happy.

That's not what I asked.

SHould shepard's survival be ambiguous in all endings.  Keeping in mind that atm Shepard is in fact definitively killed off in all endings but the "breath scene"?

Shepard doesn't need to be shown to live in each ending especially when no matter he/she lives on as a memory known by billions of people in legend form.  The "breath scene" is just a "perfect" ending that rewards a specific path to max out the story to do so, which similar scenarios have appeared in RPGs for decades.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 25 octobre 2012 - 03:17 .

[Iakus]

Blueprotoss wrote...

iakus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Shepard could be dead or alive while that choice is based on interpretation, which means I don't need a large amount of closure to be happy.

That's not what I asked.

SHould shepard's survival be ambiguous in all endings.  Keeping in mind that atm Shepard is in fact definitively killed off in all endings but the "breath scene"?

Shepard doesn't need to be shown to live in each ending especially when no matter he/she lives on as a memory known by billions of people in legend form.  The "breath scene" is just a "perfect" ending that rewards a specific path to max out the story to do so, which similar scenarios have appeared in RPGs for decades.

One last try:

Should Shepard's survival be ambiguous in all endings? 

Because as it stands now, that is not the case.

[Xilizhra]

I still don't know if I like the idea of giving only Destroy extra content. Couldn't the other endings be made survivable, if Destroy was expanded too?

[ManiacG]

Well il just say this: when i play a game i expect that il win it in the end, fully and completly, and if my char has to die it better be a death that is on his own terms, and not the one of a homocidal star brat (i cant even think about that little **** without rage) that said, in the ending where we see him take a breath we know hes alive, sure some ass could come and say it might be his last but hey they wouldt have added that scene for nothing....so why the hell not go all the way? it would please many more people then it would ****** off im sure.

[Iakus]

Yes.

I only specify Destroy because it already has the rubble scene, and would thus be easiest to implement. But I'd favor Shepard being able to survive any/all endings with high enough EMS.

[jtav]

Put yourself in the shoes of a new player, unspoiled. Shepard shoots the tube and is engulfed in flame. No one could survive that. The EC plays and Hackett speaks as if Shepard is dead.But Liara caresses the nameplate and smiles. Could it be...? And then you see Shepard breathe. Holy crap, he made it! It works rather well. But for those who saw it in the OE, the breath scene doesn't work so well.

[FOX216BC]

Yate wrote...

GUYS

BIOWARE GIVING SHEPARD A CANON ENDING IS REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD

IT WILL MAKE PEOPLE MAD AND DISAPPOINTED

IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO COME UP WITH ENDINGS TO PLEASE THE ENTIRE FANBASE

They did it before they can do it again.

[Blueprotoss]

iakus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

iakus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Shepard could be dead or alive while that choice is based on interpretation, which means I don't need a large amount of closure to be happy.

That's not what I asked.

SHould shepard's survival be ambiguous in all endings.  Keeping in mind that atm Shepard is in fact definitively killed off in all endings but the "breath scene"?

Shepard doesn't need to be shown to live in each ending especially when no matter he/she lives on as a memory known by billions of people in legend form.  The "breath scene" is just a "perfect" ending that rewards a specific path to max out the story to do so, which similar scenarios have appeared in RPGs for decades.

One last try:

Should Shepard's survival be ambiguous in all endings? 

Because as it stands now, that is not the case.

It seems like you're try to pull a strawman here because the endings are ambigious and you don't need more scenarios added too create more ambiguity.