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[spirosz]

AlanC9 wrote...

Maybe Bio should just remove the "breath" clip. Then we've all got closure because Shep's dead.

That might actually work, ha. 

[MegaSovereign]

AlanC9 wrote...

Maybe Bio should just remove the "breath" clip. Then we've all got closure because Shep's dead.

I'd actually prefer that.

Others won't. In fact they'll still use fallacies like "Shepard is dead no matter what so my choice doesn't matter!"

[AndreasShepard]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Seems a lot of people want to be told how their own character lives his life.....even though you're the only one that knows that

Told how to live Shepard's life....no, told weather he/she's alive or dead...yes.  Asking for a scene in the hospital where the crew and love interest reunite is not dictating how Shepard lived out the rest of his/her life

Your logic makes no sense anyway, we are not the writers of this universe, Bioware is and always has been and it's up to them to finish the story they began.

Modifié par AndreasShepard, 20 octobre 2012 - 07:21 .

[Iakus]

AlanC9 wrote...

Maybe Bio should just remove the "breath" clip. Then we've all got closure because Shep's dead.

Maybe Bio should actually let people have some control over th efate of theier own characters, rather than jerking the player around.

[High Five Revival]

Personally - while I would appreciate more closure - I do like the ambiguity of the ending too. So many people had their own visions of how the story would end and this allows them to end it with Shepherd alive or dead. It's up to them. It's another choice and in a series that is dedicated to choice, I like the idea of having another one. For the record, my Shepherd is alive (and with Miranda Lawson).

However, if EA/Bioware chooses to give us some more closure, I would be very grateful and would love to see it! It is really hard to say goodbye.

[MegaSovereign]

AndreasShepard wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Seems a lot of people want to be told how their own character lives his life.....even though you're the only one that knows that

Told how to live Shepard's life....no, told weather he/she's alive or dead...yes.  Asking for a scene in the hospital where the crew and love interest reunite is not dictating how Shepard lived out the rest of his/her life

Your logic makes no sense anyway, we are not the writers of this universe, Bioware is and always has been and it's up to them to finish the story they began.

Shepard is alive...

[Tomwew]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Shepard is alive...

the narrative implication is he lives. the logical one is....... debatable. but i find it a little unlikely he could survive, a scene explaining how his survival is possible, and the impact his decision has had on him (with past choices maybe reflecting this impact, a la slides if they have to, but really don't want to) would help with this.

[xAmilli0n]

AlanC9 wrote...

Maybe Bio should just remove the "breath" clip. Then we've all got closure because Shep's dead.

Hey, my Shep is doing just fine as a Reaper god thank you very much:P

[spirosz]

Tomwew wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Shepard is alive...

the narrative implication is he lives. the logical one is....... debatable. but i find it a little unlikely he could survive, a scene explaining how his survival is possible, and the impact his decision has had on him (with past choices maybe reflecting this impact, a la slides if they have to, but really don't want to) would help with this.

I think that is the problem, we end up nitpicking certain things and try to relate them to our reaslitc view and it conflicts because knowing in our mind, having that much rubble on you makes it highly unlikely you could survive, even if you have that "one breath", that might be the only one.  

Logic tends to conflict with games... haha.

[Binary_Helix 1]

N7 Assass1n wrote...

There is no point. I have the same opinion as well, but they don't care. Any essence of pride they had making the series (Or any game they make/made for that matter) is gone. This is so blatantly evident in ME3, DA2 etc. Its now just time to watch them burn there own creation into the ground and further distance themselves away from the community that made them.

Agreed. This is what happens when corporate bean counters, pseudo artists, and "diversity" replaces nerdy white guy culture. What do I mean by that? When time and resources go into Femshep hairdos, Femshep covers, homosexual romances, making Normandy into Jersey Shore, discarding "cliche" endings for some transhuman nonsense, in other words when your game become some political statement you know when you've jumped the shark. This is exactly the crap that has turned off men from TV in droves and led them to video games in the first place a largely traditional masculine medium.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 20 octobre 2012 - 08:26 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The the post breath scene is according to Jessica Merizan "Schroedinger's Cat". So it's that point of do we want to open the box to find out? With the box closed Shepard is both alive and dead at the same time. But if we open the box Shepard is dead, even though the file says that Shepard is alive. It's like they just ... don't ... want ... to ... make ... a ... commitment.

So typical of men with commitment issues.

[Tomwew]

spirosz wrote...

Tomwew wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Shepard is alive...

the narrative implication is he lives. the logical one is....... debatable. but i find it a little unlikely he could survive, a scene explaining how his survival is possible, and the impact his decision has had on him (with past choices maybe reflecting this impact, a la slides if they have to, but really don't want to) would help with this.

I think that is the problem, we end up nitpicking certain things and try to relate them to our reaslitc view and it conflicts because knowing in our mind, having that much rubble on you makes it highly unlikely you could survive, even if you have that "one breath", that might be the only one.  

Logic tends to conflict with games... haha.

absolutely, but one thing mass effect has never been about, is just magic in space (developers own words, well paraphrased but the gist is the same) shep surviving THAT ending is a bit magic in space in my opinion.

[spirosz]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

The the post breath scene is according to Jessica Merizan "Schroedinger's Cat". So it's that point of do we want to open the box to find out? With the box closed Shepard is both alive and dead at the same time. But if we open the box Shepard is dead, even though the file says that Shepard is alive. It's like they just ... don't ... want ... to ... make ... a ... commitment.

So typical of men with commitment issues.

They really want us to go through all that trouble by looking into to the files, I'd rather experience while I'm playing the game, lol. 

[Tomwew]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

The the post breath scene is according to Jessica Merizan "Schroedinger's Cat". So it's that point of do we want to open the box to find out? With the box closed Shepard is both alive and dead at the same time. But if we open the box Shepard is dead, even though the file says that Shepard is alive. It's like they just ... don't ... want ... to ... make ... a ... commitment.

So typical of men with commitment issues.

i never went for the schroedinger's cat thing, the cat is alive OR dead, just because you don't know the definitive answer does not mean there isn't one.

as to the men with commitment issues, lol, but my medical record can prove i've most certainly been commited. (couldn't resist lame joke)

[CaIIisto]

spirosz wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

The the post breath scene is according to Jessica Merizan "Schroedinger's Cat". So it's that point of do we want to open the box to find out? With the box closed Shepard is both alive and dead at the same time. But if we open the box Shepard is dead, even though the file says that Shepard is alive. It's like they just ... don't ... want ... to ... make ... a ... commitment.

So typical of men with commitment issues.

They really want us to go through all that trouble by looking into to the files, I'd rather experience while I'm playing the game, lol. 

But, but, think of the fun you'd be missing out on then. 

Surely there's little better than finishing a game and then diving into the code/files to find out what really happened.

Thanks to BW for extending my enjoyment of the game. 

[AlanC9]

Tomwew wrote...

i never went for the schroedinger's cat thing, the cat is alive OR dead, just because you don't know the definitive answer does not mean there isn't one.

Actually, it does. The universe apparently does not run according to human common sense.

[MegaSovereign]

Tomwew wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Shepard is alive...

the narrative implication is he lives. the logical one is....... debatable. but i find it a little unlikely he could survive, a scene explaining how his survival is possible, and the impact his decision has had on him (with past choices maybe reflecting this impact, a la slides if they have to, but really don't want to) would help with this.

That would be nice. But it's not a deal breaker not to have one.

[Iakus]

AlanC9 wrote...

Tomwew wrote...

i never went for the schroedinger's cat thing, the cat is alive OR dead, just because you don't know the definitive answer does not mean there isn't one.

Actually, it does. The universe apparently does not run according to human common sense.

Neither does ME3, it seems...

[fil009]

LMAO love that pic, especially Javik.

[Constant Motion]

jakal66 wrote...

You cannot start a new game without closing all the ends and Dear Bioware, you have left one severly opened.

Yes, you can.

[Tomwew]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Tomwew wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Shepard is alive...

the narrative implication is he lives. the logical one is....... debatable. but i find it a little unlikely he could survive, a scene explaining how his survival is possible, and the impact his decision has had on him (with past choices maybe reflecting this impact, a la slides if they have to, but really don't want to) would help with this.

That would be nice. But it's not a deal breaker not to have one.

ruddy frustrating though.

[MegaSovereign]

Tomwew wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Tomwew wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Shepard is alive...

the narrative implication is he lives. the logical one is....... debatable. but i find it a little unlikely he could survive, a scene explaining how his survival is possible, and the impact his decision has had on him (with past choices maybe reflecting this impact, a la slides if they have to, but really don't want to) would help with this.

That would be nice. But it's not a deal breaker not to have one.

ruddy frustrating though.

While they're at it they could explain Synthesis. 

Is that asking too much?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Tomwew wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

The the post breath scene is according to Jessica Merizan "Schroedinger's Cat". So it's that point of do we want to open the box to find out? With the box closed Shepard is both alive and dead at the same time. But if we open the box Shepard is dead, even though the file says that Shepard is alive. It's like they just ... don't ... want ... to ... make ... a ... commitment.

So typical of men with commitment issues.

i never went for the schroedinger's cat thing, the cat is alive OR dead, just because you don't know the definitive answer does not mean there isn't one.

as to the men with commitment issues, lol, but my medical record can prove i've most certainly been commited. (couldn't resist lame joke)

But Schroedinger's Cat is part of Quantum Mechanics, which allows for the both situation to exist at the same time.

However, digging into the files can only be done on the PC version, which I had to resort to using screen shots on the internet since I play on the 360.

You miss out on half the fun of gaming. And these things can carry over into real life. Say if you're watching a movie with a friend. Some movies have open endings these days. With experience on the Bioware board with Mass Effect 3 you can now drive your friend up the wall.

You: "Well, that sucked. They're really screwed."
F: "No they're not. They survived and they're going to get rescued."
Y: "How? They've got no radio. No food. No water."
F: "Their team will rescue them."
Y: "Their team doesn't even know where they are. They don't have a transponder either. They're going to die."
F: "No they're not. They'll get out."
Y: "How? Rope? Their rope fell off them in the previous scene, or did you miss that? They're off the grid."
F: "Someone will find them and aid them."
Y: "How do you know? Hardly anyone ever travels that path. They could die."
F: "Thanks. (sarcastically)"
Y: "Now what is it?"
F: "You just ruined the movie."
Y: "I was just pointing ou..."
F: "Shut up."

See? And all you were doing was pointing out stuff like Bioware was pointing out at the CCs and on BSN.

[BearlyHere]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...



I used to be like you. But now my eyes have been opened. If you could only see it the way I do now. It's so... perfect.

The ending is so perfect that I want to build a shrine to the perfection of it. I want to name my next born MacHudson, in tribute to their awesomeness. 

[Tomwew]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Tomwew wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Tomwew wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Shepard is alive...

the narrative implication is he lives. the logical one is....... debatable. but i find it a little unlikely he could survive, a scene explaining how his survival is possible, and the impact his decision has had on him (with past choices maybe reflecting this impact, a la slides if they have to, but really don't want to) would help with this.

That would be nice. But it's not a deal breaker not to have one.

ruddy frustrating though.

While they're at it they could explain Synthesis. 

Is that asking too much?

not enough technobabble in the world sir, even sam carter working with data in dexter's laboratory would be gobsmacked by synthesis