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[InfinitePaths]

 I think Bioware shouldn't take to much time into making all of your old choices count in DA3,better to make new,fresh choices,LI's,and so on...

I think there are to many  choices in DAO and DA2,if they wanted to make all of them count in a significant way,It would  take very much of their resurces and time on something you did in the past,

Ah so many choices in all the game,I think I'm starting to agree with the people who want no import.

DAO LI's:

Romance 1. Morrigan.

God child-warden

God child-Alistar

God child Loghain.

Romance 2. Leliana

Hardend

Unhardend

Stayed with the warden

went to Orlais

Romance 3.Alistar

King

Grey Warden

Hardend

Unhardend

Anora love triangle

Romance 4.

Zevran.

Just pleasure

Love

Ugh,I think Bioware would just spend to much time making all of this,not to mention numerus other choices in the past games...

DA 2 Li's

1.Isabella

Rival

Friend

Ship 

No Ship

Friends with benefits

 or Love

2.Fenris

Rival

Friend

Becomes a slave again

Stays with Hawke

3.Anders 

Rival

Friend

Numerus choices in his personal quests

Dead

Alive

4.Meriil

Friend

Rival

Eluvian destryoed

Eluvian Built

Clan Killed

Clan lives

Now fans,do you really want Bioware to make all thease choices count in a significant way?

Modifié par HeriocGreyWarden, 20 octobre 2012 - 06:57 .

[RandomSyhn]

Most of these different options aren't the ones that I'd prioritize for a save import. I mean quite a few are important, but what about oh the current ruler of Orzammar? will they come into play? How did you deal with the dalish and the werewolves? Who did you side with Mages or Templars? Did you give Isabel to the Qunari? Did you Defend her or did she run away? I pick what is going to be relevant in DA3 work backwards from there, and then some of these decisions or occurance won't even come into play in the new game.

[Palipride47]

I think you missed some important ones (king of Orzammar) but I get your point, and agree.

If Anders didn't remember that I made him a blood mage in Awakening (making him a Grey Warden and meeting Justice is different, and I take issue with it) , or that you executed Jowan yourself instead of turning him over to the Circle, or even some of the "main Origins" epilogues (Cullen being transferred to Kirkwall instead of going insane and killing mages like some medieval "Punisher") aren't consistent. I won't care. If Irving or Wynne is alive and well when they were supposed to be dead, or Fenris is running around not being a slave if I gave him back to Danarius, then yes, I would be annoyed.

[AllThatJazz]

A lot of that stuff can safely be glossed over, OP xD. Why would it matter in DA3 whether Zevran and the Warden were in love or just having of the sex all the way back in Origins? The game isn't going to be about either of those characters. Frankly, if Zev appears in DA3 and starts waxing lyrical about his Warden romance, my Inquisitor will feel a mite perturbed. They've, like, JUST MET!

Seriously though, romance flags from Origins aren't a huge priority at this point. But, as I'm also arguing in several other threads , I like the save import, and would like to see it continue

[Palipride47]

AllThatJazz wrote...

A lot of that stuff can safely be glossed over, OP xD. Why would it matter in DA3 whether Zevran and the Warden were in love or just having of the sex all the way back in Origins? The game isn't going to be about either of those characters. Frankly, if Zev appears in DA3 and starts waxing lyrical about his Warden romance, my Inquisitor will feel a mite perturbed. They've, like, JUST MET!

Seriously though, romance flags from Origins aren't a huge priority at this point. But, as I'm also arguing in several other threads , I like the save import, and would like to see it continue

I think my biggest beef are with the extremists that either say WE NEED EVERY CHOICE EVER IMPORTED! or http://social.biowar...index/14585403] SCRAP IMPORTS COMPLETELY AND HAVE A CANON! [/url]

Is there no middle ground? Jeez. <_<

Modifié par Palipride47, 20 octobre 2012 - 08:36 .

[MillKill]

Palipride47 wrote...

Is there no middle ground? Jeez. <_<

None whatsoever, I'm afraid.

[wright1978]

AllThatJazz wrote...

A lot of that stuff can safely be glossed over, OP xD. Why would it matter in DA3 whether Zevran and the Warden were in love or just having of the sex all the way back in Origins? The game isn't going to be about either of those characters. Frankly, if Zev appears in DA3 and starts waxing lyrical about his Warden romance, my Inquisitor will feel a mite perturbed. They've, like, JUST MET!

Seriously though, romance flags from Origins aren't a huge priority at this point. But, as I'm also arguing in several other threads , I like the save import, and would like to see it continue

Sort of does matter to me if say Isabela appears and seems completely unperturbed that the person she claimed to love in my universe(hawke) is missing. So i don't need her to spill her guts to new protaganist but i  would like her demanour/behaviour to be different if she was romanced versus non romanced.

[wright1978]

MillKill wrote...

Palipride47 wrote...

Is there no middle ground? Jeez. <_<

None whatsoever, I'm afraid.

There is. It is called no man's land and is between two deeply entrenched lines.

[AllThatJazz]

Palipride47 wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...

A lot of that stuff can safely be glossed over, OP xD. Why would it matter in DA3 whether Zevran and the Warden were in love or just having of the sex all the way back in Origins? The game isn't going to be about either of those characters. Frankly, if Zev appears in DA3 and starts waxing lyrical about his Warden romance, my Inquisitor will feel a mite perturbed. They've, like, JUST MET!

Seriously though, romance flags from Origins aren't a huge priority at this point. But, as I'm also arguing in several other threads , I like the save import, and would like to see it continue

I think my biggest beef are with the extremists that either say WE NEED EVERY CHOICE EVER IMPORTED! or http://social.biowar...index/14585403] SCRAP IMPORTS COMPLETELY AND HAVE A CANON! [/url]

Is there no middle ground? Jeez. <_<

Seriously, yeah. Or those who think both. 'If every decision I make can't have universe-shattering, completely game-changing consequences, then give me, and everybody else, nothing! Nothing, I tell you!'

Really???! Cuz, you know, I did actually get quite a kick out of my drunk Alistair cameo, despite it's overall insignificance to the future of Thedas.




Wright - sorry, didn't intend to dismiss anyone's feelings about their LI DA2's romance flags may well take a slightly higher priority anyway, given that in-game they are that much more recent. Given the time frames, it's been over a decade? since Zev and the Warden got it on, whereas Izzy's probably still in that first flush of Hawke-adoration :3

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 20 octobre 2012 - 08:51 .

[Shadow Fox]

I think the only choices that should carry over is the endgame and possiblly your character's sex and class and if a character you romanced shows up again have them mention it in passing maybe.

[AllThatJazz]

 I think my biggest beef are with the extremists that either say WE NEED EVERY CHOICE EVER IMPORTED! or http://social.biowar...index/14585403] SCRAP IMPORTS COMPLETELY AND HAVE A CANON! [/url]
Is there no middle ground? Jeez. 
[/quote]
Seriously, yeah. Or those who think both. 'If every decision I make can't have universe-shattering, completely game-changing consequences, then give me, and everybody else, nothing! Nothing, I tell you!'
Really???! Cuz, you know, I did actually get quite a kick out of my drunk Alistair cameo, despite it's overall insignificance to the future of Thedas.



Wright - sorry, didn't intend to dismiss anyone's feelings about their LI DA2's romance flags may well take a slightly higher priority anyway, given that in-game they are that much more recent. Given the time frames, it's been over a decade? since Zev and the Warden got it on, whereas Izzy's probably still in that first flush of Hawke-adoration :3

Edit: Apologies for the formatting. Something's gone screwy with my ability to post. Probably a sign it's time for me to stop

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 20 octobre 2012 - 08:52 .

[Palipride47]

wright1978 wrote...

MillKill wrote...

Palipride47 wrote...

Is there no middle ground? Jeez. <_<

None whatsoever, I'm afraid.

There is. It is called no man's land and is between two deeply entrenched lines.

Ha, I guess living in Washington DC, I get that enough (I swear I haven't seen a non-political ad on TV in months)
However, why I would turn to BSN or the internet in general to expect and plead moderation is beyond my twisted logic....:blush:

[InfinitePaths]

Palipride47 wrote...

I think you missed some important ones (king of Orzammar) but I get your point, and agree.

If Anders didn't remember that I made him a blood mage in Awakening (making him a Grey Warden and meeting Justice is different, and I take issue with it) , or that you executed Jowan yourself instead of turning him over to the Circle, or even some of the "main Origins" epilogues (Cullen being transferred to Kirkwall instead of going insane and killing mages like some medieval "Punisher") aren't consistent. I won't care. If Irving or Wynne is alive and well when they were supposed to be dead, or Fenris is running around not being a slave if I gave him back to Danarius, then yes, I would be annoyed.

I would be angry if they do something against my decisions,what I want is that my previus decisions get closure,and are forrgoten,never mentioned again,excpet for the uber important ones

[Palipride47]

AllThatJazz wrote...

Palipride47 wrote...
 I think my biggest beef are with the extremists that either say WE NEED EVERY CHOICE EVER IMPORTED! or SCRAP IMPORTS COMPLETELY AND HAVE A CANON!
Is there no middle ground? Jeez. 

Seriously, yeah. Or those who think both.

'If every decision I make can't have universe-shattering, completely game-changing consequences, then give me, and everybody else, nothing! Nothing, I tell you!'

Really???! Cuz, you know, I did actually get quite a kick out of my drunk Alistair cameo, despite it's overall insignificance to the future of Thedas.


Wright - sorry, didn't intend to dismiss anyone's feelings about their LI DA2's romance flags may well take a slightly higher priority anyway, given that in-game they are that much more recent. Given the time frames, it's been over a decade? since Zev and the Warden got it on, whereas Izzy's probably still in that first flush of Hawke-adoration :3

Edit: Apologies for the formatting. Something's gone screwy with my ability to post. Probably a sign it's time for me to stop

Fixed it for you! 
You'd think after a decade, Zevran would finally sleep with SOMEONE 

Although, those flags would be kind of hard to figure (in terms of, who gets over "missing Warden" better).

Also have to consider that maybe you killed your LI in DA2, or sided with the opposite side and they just left you (I think Templar Hawke and Anders can, like, do a farewell kiss and never see each other again, or something, if I've read correctly) 

[MillKill]

AllThatJazz wrote...


Seriously, yeah. Or those who think both. 'If every decision I make can't have universe-shattering, completely game-changing consequences, then give me, and everybody else, nothing! Nothing, I tell you!'
Really???! Cuz, you know, I did actually get quite a kick out of my drunk Alistair cameo, despite it's overall insignificance to the future of Thedas.

Because no decision, big or small, will ever will have game-changing consequences with importing. If they make the big choices canon, half the players will be treated to serious consequences for their decision and everybody will get a stronger story.

[wright1978]

AllThatJazz wrote...

Wright - sorry, didn't intend to dismiss anyone's feelings about their LI DA2's romance flags may well take a slightly higher priority anyway, given that in-game they are that much more recent. Given the time frames, it's been over a decade? since Zev and the Warden got it on, whereas Izzy's probably still in that first flush of Hawke-adoration :3

No probs. Just think the personal character stuff can be equally powerful as the big world changing decisions.

[Palipride47]

wright1978 wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...

Wright - sorry, didn't intend to dismiss anyone's feelings about their LI DA2's romance flags may well take a slightly higher priority anyway, given that in-game they are that much more recent. Given the time frames, it's been over a decade? since Zev and the Warden got it on, whereas Izzy's probably still in that first flush of Hawke-adoration :3

No probs. Just think the personal character stuff can be equally powerful as the big world changing decisions.

+1

I would think that a Hawke that romanced Anders import would just add new dimensions of rumor and story based awesome, regardless of what side you actually ended up choosing. 

[AllThatJazz]

wright1978 wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...

Wright - sorry, didn't intend to dismiss anyone's feelings about their LI DA2's romance flags may well take a slightly higher priority anyway, given that in-game they are that much more recent. Given the time frames, it's been over a decade? since Zev and the Warden got it on, whereas Izzy's probably still in that first flush of Hawke-adoration :3

No probs. Just think the personal character stuff can be equally powerful as the big world changing decisions.

Oh, completely agreed there, in fact from a personal, having-a-unique-game perspective probably even more so! I suppose I was just illustrating my view to the OP that I wouldn't want to see the save import (or imported decisions in general) done away with altogether for the sake of the less world-changing variables, or even the MORE world-changing ones. I'd be okay with Bio establishing some canon in order for some of our decisions to remain intact Am tired though, so my ability to articulate properly has gone er .... pfffftttt!


@Palipride - thankyou! 

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 20 octobre 2012 - 09:26 .

[wright1978]

scyphozoa wrote...

Its fair to say a lot of choices in DAO/A/2 are never going to be relevant again. But I also think it is unlikely that Bioware will release an alternative to save importing that will match the thoroughness of save importing.

ME Genesis was so minimal and omitted a ton of content and choices, so I am hoping DA does not have something as minimal or limited.

Remember seeing a thread where someone was suggesting a book format which i thought was quite a nice idea even if the thread starter's version seemed unrealistically detailed.