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[EpicBoot2daFace]

What if I don't want to play as the inquisitor or don't care about the mage/templar war? Am I automatically excluded?

[Vandicus]

Farbautisonn wrote...

If it wasnt so sad, it would be funny....

Totally missed the reference. Cheers for clever placement. 

[unbentbuzzkill]

yea pretty much

[Vandicus]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

What if I don't want to play as the inquisitor or don't care about the mage/templar war? Am I automatically excluded?

Good thing you were ok with playing the Warden. 

[Xilizhra]

Vandicus wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

What if I don't want to play as the inquisitor or don't care about the mage/templar war? Am I automatically excluded?

Good thing you were ok with playing the Warden. 

Well, the Warden was less arbitrarily and idiotically excluded from belonging to certain races. So, you know.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Vandicus wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

What if I don't want to play as the inquisitor or don't care about the mage/templar war? Am I automatically excluded?

Good thing you were ok with playing the Warden. 

Who says I was?

[PsychoBlonde]

David Gaider wrote...

Yup, we're aware of that. Not every fantasy game has that, of course, but it's nice when it's available (and used appropriately as more than just an appearance variant, in my opinion). I think Mike said at the panel to not take this as an indication of where DA is headed in the future-- he said we intend to go return to "all four races as playable" in the future (his words). In the meantime, we want to increase customization and focus on what's important to DA3.

I think it'd be amazing and cool if you guys do DLC or expansions where we play (exclusively) as other races.  The dwarves and elves in particular are getting badly sidelined IMO and they need some PC love.

[Maria Caliban]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

Does anyone NOT expect this game to flunk when copared to Witcher2?

Compared to Witcher 2, I expect it will be Shakespeare.

Then I dont really think you read much Shakespeare...

I don't read much Shakespeare, I watch it performed. They're plays.

[Farbautisonn]

Maria Caliban wrote...
I don't read much Shakespeare, I watch it performed. They're plays.

Figured as much...

[Monica21]

Faerunner wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

A good story is a good story, regardless of race.

If all we wanted was a good story, we could read a book, watch a movie, listen to the radio, see a play, etc. People don't always play games just for the story, they may also play for the experience. There are many features video games offer that other forms of entertainment (books, movies, plays etc.) cannot. Heck, there are many game mechanics and interactive experiences that some games offer that other games don't, which is why there are different genres and fanbases.

It's true that Dragon Age games tend to have strong stories, and the said strong stories tend to be popular, but those aren't the only factors involved with why different people like the different Dragon Age games. Since these are video games - interactive media as opposed to passive viewing media - many people like different interactive features.

What those features are varies from person to person, but one of the interactive experiences that many people liked about DA:O was the option to experience what it's like to role-play other races in this fantasy world, which is no longer available. 

You don't know if every player enjoys Dragon Age JUST for the story, so please be so good as to not assume that people who're disappointed that a game feature they love is absent from the next game have nothing to be upset about just because there's also a nice story involved. 

You don't have to choose between a good book and a video game. Have you ever decided not to buy a book because of the protaganist's race?

Again, without knowing the story and the PC's role in said story, it's premature to put the hammer down on not being able to play an elf or a dwarf. I think it could very well just not work within the story to be anything other than human, but I suspect people who are heavily invested in playing other races will think that BioWare should have just made it work. As said upthread though, the delicacy involved with racial tension in Thedas and being able to properly do it justice within the timeframe they have to get this game released may just not be feasible.

[Jadebaby]

Will you be able to play other races in the Multiplayer? lulz

[Shadow Fox]

Monica21 wrote...

Faerunner wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

A good story is a good story, regardless of race.

If all we wanted was a good story, we could read a book, watch a movie, listen to the radio, see a play, etc. People don't always play games just for the story, they may also play for the experience. There are many features video games offer that other forms of entertainment (books, movies, plays etc.) cannot. Heck, there are many game mechanics and interactive experiences that some games offer that other games don't, which is why there are different genres and fanbases.

It's true that Dragon Age games tend to have strong stories, and the said strong stories tend to be popular, but those aren't the only factors involved with why different people like the different Dragon Age games. Since these are video games - interactive media as opposed to passive viewing media - many people like different interactive features.

What those features are varies from person to person, but one of the interactive experiences that many people liked about DA:O was the option to experience what it's like to role-play other races in this fantasy world, which is no longer available. 

You don't know if every player enjoys Dragon Age JUST for the story, so please be so good as to not assume that people who're disappointed that a game feature they love is absent from the next game have nothing to be upset about just because there's also a nice story involved. 

You don't have to choose between a good book and a video game. Have you ever decided not to buy a book because of the protaganist's race?

Again, without knowing the story and the PC's role in said story, it's premature to put the hammer down on not being able to play an elf or a dwarf. I think it could very well just not work within the story to be anything other than human, but I suspect people who are heavily invested in playing other races will think that BioWare should have just made it work. As said upthread though, the delicacy involved with racial tension in Thedas and being able to properly do it justice within the timeframe they have to get this game released may just not be feasible.

Stormcloaks.

[KENNY4753]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Will you be able to play other races in the Multiplayer? lulz

Hopefully it will be like ME3 having multiople races, classes, and we choose weapon style.

I want my dang Dalish Elf Archer!

[Xilizhra]

Again, without knowing the story and the PC's role in said story, it's premature to put the hammer down on not being able to play an elf or a dwarf. I think it could very well just not work within the story to be anything other than human, but I suspect people who are heavily invested in playing other races will think that BioWare should have just made it work. As said upthread though, the delicacy involved with racial tension in Thedas and being able to properly do it justice within the timeframe they have to get this game released may just not be feasible.

Not in the slightest. It would have been better for the story to be somewhat tweaked so that it could fit any possible race, which was wholly possible with the Warden's story. It wouldn't have to be that difficult.

[Shadow Fox]

Xilizhra wrote...

Again, without knowing the story and the PC's role in said story, it's premature to put the hammer down on not being able to play an elf or a dwarf. I think it could very well just not work within the story to be anything other than human, but I suspect people who are heavily invested in playing other races will think that BioWare should have just made it work. As said upthread though, the delicacy involved with racial tension in Thedas and being able to properly do it justice within the timeframe they have to get this game released may just not be feasible.

Not in the slightest. It would have been better for the story to be somewhat tweaked so that it could fit any possible race, which was wholly possible with the Warden's story. It wouldn't have to be that difficult.

Yup.

[Monica21]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...
Stormcloaks.

Not getting the reference as I don't play TES games.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Xilizhra wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Didn't expect otherwise. Pretty disappointed that we can't play through our character's origin, however. But multiple background choices is definitely a step up from DA2.

I think it seems to be a waste of time if there aren't racial options, unless the origins are really good.

A character's background is far more important than their race imo. 

In DAO, would you have rathered all races be relegated to the single Magi option, or have a single race spanning the variety of different origins?

[Monica21]

Xilizhra wrote...

Again, without knowing the story and the PC's role in said story, it's premature to put the hammer down on not being able to play an elf or a dwarf. I think it could very well just not work within the story to be anything other than human, but I suspect people who are heavily invested in playing other races will think that BioWare should have just made it work. As said upthread though, the delicacy involved with racial tension in Thedas and being able to properly do it justice within the timeframe they have to get this game released may just not be feasible.

Not in the slightest. It would have been better for the story to be somewhat tweaked so that it could fit any possible race, which was wholly possible with the Warden's story. It wouldn't have to be that difficult.

You know that because you know the Warden's story, no matter which origin you chose. You don't know the story of the Inquisition.

[Vandicus]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

What if I don't want to play as the inquisitor or don't care about the mage/templar war? Am I automatically excluded?

Good thing you were ok with playing the Warden. 

Who says I was?

Why are you here then? This game series doesn't exactly exemplify sandbox concepts.

[Shadow Fox]

Monica21 wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...
Stormcloaks.

Not getting the reference as I don't play TES games.

anti-elven sentiment is rampant in they're ranks yet a High elf was able to join they're ranks as was an  eleven pc.

[Shadow Fox]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Didn't expect otherwise. Pretty disappointed that we can't play through our character's origin, however. But multiple background choices is definitely a step up from DA2.

I think it seems to be a waste of time if there aren't racial options, unless the origins are really good.

A character's background is far more important than their race imo. 

In DAO, would you have rathered all races be relegated to the single Magi option, or have a single race spanning the variety of different origins?

I myself vastly prefered the Grey Warden Origin from Awakening.

[Josielyn]

HEH HEH, playing devil's advocate, maybe it won't be so awful being a human again if there is a "Mirror of transformation" that lets you add pointy ears and adjust your height to very short or very tall. Oh people want different, but not TOO different. I loved being a dwarf in DAO, not because of how I looked, but because of the STORY! I am confident that the writers will give us a great human story that will make us forget why we wanted to look like an elf or dwarf in the first place. Who plays as a different race for looks, and who plays as a different race for the story?

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Vandicus wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

What if I don't want to play as the inquisitor or don't care about the mage/templar war? Am I automatically excluded?

Good thing you were ok with playing the Warden. 

Who says I was?

Why are you here then? This game series doesn't exactly exemplify sandbox concepts.

I don't have to like playing as the Warden, Hawke, or the Inquisitor (lolz) to enjoy the games or discuss them on forums.

[Xilizhra]

A character's background is far more important than their race imo.

In DAO, would you have rathered all races be relegated to the single Magi option, or have a single race spanning the variety of different origins?

You're asking me? **** yes, I'd prefer having all races in the mage origin as opposed to one race spread out.

HEH HEH, playing devil's advocate, maybe it won't be so awful being a human again if there is a "Mirror of transformation" that lets you add pointy ears and adjust your height to very short or very tall. Oh people want different, but not TOO different. I loved being a dwarf in DAO, not because of how I looked, but because of the STORY! I am confident that the writers will give us a great human story that will make us forget why we wanted to look like an elf or dwarf in the first place. Who plays as a different race for looks, and who plays as a different race for the story?

I play for story. And RPing.

[Vandicus]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

What if I don't want to play as the inquisitor or don't care about the mage/templar war? Am I automatically excluded?

Good thing you were ok with playing the Warden. 

Who says I was?

Why are you here then? This game series doesn't exactly exemplify sandbox concepts.

I don't have to like playing as the Warden, Hawke, or the Inquisitor (lolz) to enjoy the games or discuss them on forums.

Given that you're not getting DA3 on the basis of racial choices, it seems odd that a more major character piece being predetermined(which you are now criticizing) did not prevent your purchase of the first game. Am I to understand that  are simply choosing not to purchase DA3 because of a singular predeterminated character trait, despite major character traits being predetermined having not prevented your enjoyment before?