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[ziloe]

I know this might be brought up a lot already, as it is. But my warden romanced Morrigan, and entered the gate with her in her DLC. Now, maybe that's closure in itself, but she's obviously preparing for a battle with her mother, Flemeth. And her son is surely the key in doing so. That being said, I'd like to see my Warden return.

Now, before you say it can't be done, think about it like this. It's been many years since we've seen our character (10 years in DA:2), so a lot can change in that unknown universe we know nothing about. So that said, if they could factor in race and sex, I think they could legitimately pull it off, even if our character was wearing a fancy helmet the entire time that hid their face from our new character. 

And if Morrigan turned out to be a baddie (or we chose the evil route), I think it would be a real twist to have to fight our original character. 

((Discuss))

[ziloe]

Aw, no comments? And here I thought people liked Morrigan?

[unbentbuzzkill]

gidn't know this thread was here untill about two minutes ago.

[ziloe]

Apparently nobody did. D:

Seriously though, as much as there may be closure with the Warden somewhat, I don't feel their story is done, if they go that route. Bioware is good with stories, and seeing as they're still in pre production, I'd love to see what they could do with such material.

[BlueMagitek]

I would prefer that the Warden be kept out of any future installments of Dragon Age. Setting a new PC against an old one rarely works well.

[Androme]

I want Morrigan really badly in DA3. But really, this is like the 500th thread about Morrigan & the Warden in two weeks.

[ziloe]

Rarely, maybe. But who's to say it won't work, if done tastefully? Think about it, the story would branch like this if we had to face Morrigan:

1. Face Morrigan alone
OR
2: Those who romanced her, step in to face you and defend her.

[ziloe]

Androme wrote...

I want Morrigan really badly in DA3. But really, this is like the 500th thread about Morrigan & the Warden in two weeks.

Obviously it means enough to players, for them to keep bringing it up then. I'm a little disappointed I'm only 500th though.

[BlueMagitek]

ziloe wrote...

Rarely, maybe. But who's to say it won't work, if done tastefully? Think about it, the story would branch like this if we had to face Morrigan:

1. Face Morrigan alone
OR
2: Those who romanced her, step in to face you and defend her.

The few times it has worked, to my knowledge, has been against a pre defined character.  And even that doesn't always work (ToS2).  Using a character like the Warden, just as a boss character, is just a waste.

[unbentbuzzkill]

it's actually the 501 thread in two weeks anyway i think it gas been said the warden and hawke might appear as NPC's in DA3

[Eveangaline]

I liked Morrigan in Da:O

But as far as I'm concerned, her story is pretty much over, and I'm really not interested in seeing her again, I'd much rather see new people

[ziloe]

BlueMagitek wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Rarely, maybe. But who's to say it won't work, if done tastefully? Think about it, the story would branch like this if we had to face Morrigan:

1. Face Morrigan alone
OR
2: Those who romanced her, step in to face you and defend her.

The few times it has worked, to my knowledge, has been against a pre defined character.  And even that doesn't always work (ToS2).  Using a character like the Warden, just as a boss character, is just a waste.

Oh of course, just being a boss wouldn't work, but I mean as like a follower to Morrigan, so each time you encounter her, maybe he's with her kinda thing. And they have extra dialogue for that situation, etc. 

Plus, yes the god child is totally a controvercial topic to some who didn't take it, but damn, it's not unlikely for her to just do it elsewhere via some kind of magical plot device.

I think NOT doing anything about it, would be wasted potential.

[Vandicus]

Well one of the essential problems in implementing Morrigan is that it retroactively determines whether the choice made in DA:O and Witch Hunt will be seen as a good or bad one. Preferably her character maintains moral ambiguity.

[ziloe]

Vandicus wrote...

Well one of the essential problems in implementing Morrigan is that it retroactively determines whether the choice made in DA:O and Witch Hunt will be seen as a good or bad one. Preferably her character maintains moral ambiguity.

I really think it all comes down to Flemeth. Flemeth wants her as her new host body, and obviously Morrigan doesn't like this idea, and is preparing to defend herself. With the possibility of the god child, she has some added defense against this insane witch. 

Not to mention, having the war against mages, this plot point about mages going too far, like Flemeth, might actually help influence player choice. 

[ziloe]

unbentbuzzkill wrote...

it's actually the 501 thread in two weeks anyway i think it gas been said the warden and hawke might appear as NPC's in DA3

Ha, would be interesting to see how it plays out. Still, would love to hear more opinions on the matter.

[BlueMagitek]

ziloe wrote...

Oh of course, just being a boss wouldn't work, but I mean as like a follower to Morrigan, so each time you encounter her, maybe he's with her kinda thing. And they have extra dialogue for that situation, etc. 

Plus, yes the god child is totally a controvercial topic to some who didn't take it, but damn, it's not unlikely for her to just do it elsewhere via some kind of magical plot device.

I think NOT doing anything about it, would be wasted potential.

Which would be defining the Warden as a character.  And not satisfy anyone, really. 

[ziloe]

BlueMagitek wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Oh of course, just being a boss wouldn't work, but I mean as like a follower to Morrigan, so each time you encounter her, maybe he's with her kinda thing. And they have extra dialogue for that situation, etc. 

Plus, yes the god child is totally a controvercial topic to some who didn't take it, but damn, it's not unlikely for her to just do it elsewhere via some kind of magical plot device.

I think NOT doing anything about it, would be wasted potential.

Which would be defining the Warden as a character.  And not satisfy anyone, really. 

He is a character. I'm sure you're not the same person you were 5 years ago, and the same goes for the Warden. It's been 10 years, or maybe more by the time DA3 starts. So really, who knows how much has changed. And personally, I don't mind having him in a defined role.

[BlueMagitek]

ziloe wrote...

He is a character. I'm sure you're not the same person you were 5 years ago, and the same goes for the Warden. It's been 10 years, or maybe more by the time DA3 starts. So really, who knows how much has changed. And personally, I don't mind having him in a defined role.

He's the representation of the Player in Thedas.  His personality is whatever the player assigns to him.  It would feel wrong that the character that I had molded is suddenly having a personality which may be completely at odds with what I gave him.  

[ziloe]

BlueMagitek wrote...

ziloe wrote...

He is a character. I'm sure you're not the same person you were 5 years ago, and the same goes for the Warden. It's been 10 years, or maybe more by the time DA3 starts. So really, who knows how much has changed. And personally, I don't mind having him in a defined role.

He's the representation of the Player in Thedas.  His personality is whatever the player assigns to him.  It would feel wrong that the character that I had molded is suddenly having a personality which may be completely at odds with what I gave him.  

Who says it would be at odds though? They just need to factor in whether you made good choices or bad, but even then, not everything is so black and white; unless you were just an outright dick.

People change. I'm mature enough to accept that my warden might have evolved since I played him. 

[Anomander Rake]

Maybe you can play both sides of the confrontation or more likely both the Warden and Hawke are dead.

Modifié par Anomander Rake, 21 octobre 2012 - 04:48 .

[The Hierophant]

Anomander Rake wrote...

Anomander Rake...

 Another Malazan Book of the Fallen reader on this forum of all places.

[ziloe]

The Hierophant wrote...

Anomander Rake wrote...

Anomander Rake...

 Another Malazan Book of the Fallen reader on this forum of all places.

Lol, I had to look this up after seeing this.

[BouncyFrag]

My 'main' import also has the Warden departing with Morrigan through the mirror. As much as I'd love for them both to return, I'm not going to get my hopes up too high seeing how I was disappointed that neither of them showed up the DA2. I understand all the possible outcomes from the previous DA games can make for a ton of extra content to be developed to cover everything. That said, I hope that Bioware proves me wrong. Done right, DA3 could win back a lot of its fans that have been put off by DA2 and the whole ME3 ending thing.

[BlueMagitek]

ziloe wrote...

Who says it would be at odds though? They just need to factor in whether you made good choices or bad, but even then, not everything is so black and white; unless you were just an outright dick.

People change. I'm mature enough to accept that my warden might have evolved since I played him.

It's not about what choices you made that matters, but what your motivation for making those choices were.  There's a world of distance between a PC who saves Connor with the Circle mages because they trust Irving can do so and they've already freed the tower, and one who is doing it because they don't want Alistar to be sad. 

That's a solution that satisfies no one.

[The Hierophant]

I wonder how a future import flag for the ogb will be read in a playthrough where the Warden romances Morrigan, does the ritual, but the Witch Hunt dlc wasn't installed?

ziloe wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Anomander Rake wrote...

Anomander Rake...

 Another Malazan Book of the Fallen reader on this forum of all places.

Lol, I had to look this up after seeing this.

You should give the series a try.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 21 octobre 2012 - 06:06 .