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Eveangaline wrote...

I'd love this. Before the DLC that revealed pappa Hawke, I pretended my Hawke was half elf, I'd love the option to choose 'raised in an alianage' as our characters history


I did that too a bit, except her dad was half elf, so she ended up even less elf (but still had some elf-blood)


And I would gladly settle for a half-elf background, they don't even need to change much... I wonder if they'll add this or just leave us completely human...

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While it is a good idea, I honestly don't see the point. There is no such thing as half-elf, only elf blooded. Meaning you of course look human. If the wish is for players to get the elven experience how would they accomplish that being elven blooded while looking completely human? It really just sounds like you'd get to play a human who has some close relationships with elves, which if I really wanted to play as an elf would not satisfy me.

That being said, I do think having an elven blooded origin would be interesting as an experience. I can see how they would have a hard time fitting in with any crowd if everyone knew who their parents were.

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challenger18 wrote...

While it is a good idea, I honestly don't see the point. There is no such thing as half-elf, only elf blooded. Meaning you of course look human. If the wish is for players to get the elven experience how would they accomplish that being elven blooded while looking completely human? It really just sounds like you'd get to play a human who has some close relationships with elves, which if I really wanted to play as an elf would not satisfy me.

That being said, I do think having an elven blooded origin would be interesting as an experience. I can see how they would have a hard time fitting in with any crowd if everyone knew who their parents were.


So, are you for it or against it? Everything about your post has confused me.  Posted Image

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brushyourteeth wrote...

challenger18 wrote...

While it is a good idea, I honestly don't see the point. There is no such thing as half-elf, only elf blooded. Meaning you of course look human. If the wish is for players to get the elven experience how would they accomplish that being elven blooded while looking completely human? It really just sounds like you'd get to play a human who has some close relationships with elves, which if I really wanted to play as an elf would not satisfy me.

That being said, I do think having an elven blooded origin would be interesting as an experience. I can see how they would have a hard time fitting in with any crowd if everyone knew who their parents were.


So, are you for it or against it? Everything about your post has confused me.  Posted Image


I like the idea, but I think it's a poor substitute for someone who really just wants to play as an elf.

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challenger18 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

challenger18 wrote...

While it is a good idea, I honestly don't see the point. There is no such thing as half-elf, only elf blooded. Meaning you of course look human. If the wish is for players to get the elven experience how would they accomplish that being elven blooded while looking completely human? It really just sounds like you'd get to play a human who has some close relationships with elves, which if I really wanted to play as an elf would not satisfy me.

That being said, I do think having an elven blooded origin would be interesting as an experience. I can see how they would have a hard time fitting in with any crowd if everyone knew who their parents were.


So, are you for it or against it? Everything about your post has confused me.  Posted Image


I like the idea, but I think it's a poor substitute for someone who really just wants to play as an elf.

I'd agree with that. I think it sounds like it's part of the OP's point -- "If I can't play as an elf, can I at least play as a human who identifies him/herself with elven culture?"

She'd probably be the first to say she'd rather just play an elf in DAIII, but barring that this would be her preference.

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I love this idea and think it would be an excellent and valid background choice. As others have so ably pointed out, this clearly wouldn't effect your physical appearance. You'd still be human. But it still gives you a new option for a different backstory. I've never really played as an elf in Origins much, but this background choice has some serious potential to recommend it. :)

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challenger18 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

challenger18 wrote...

While it is a good idea, I honestly don't see the point. There is no such thing as half-elf, only elf blooded. Meaning you of course look human. If the wish is for players to get the elven experience how would they accomplish that being elven blooded while looking completely human? It really just sounds like you'd get to play a human who has some close relationships with elves, which if I really wanted to play as an elf would not satisfy me.

That being said, I do think having an elven blooded origin would be interesting as an experience. I can see how they would have a hard time fitting in with any crowd if everyone knew who their parents were.


So, are you for it or against it? Everything about your post has confused me.  Posted Image


I like the idea, but I think it's a poor substitute for someone who really just wants to play as an elf.



I agree with you.  I think that what the OP wants is that if they are forced to play as a human, they would prefer that said human be of half-elf origin so that they can roleplay the character as such.  I understand that entirely but, I just think that if DA:I had gone in a direction where different races were a possibility, they would have.

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Thrillho_82 wrote...

challenger18 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

challenger18 wrote...

While it is a good idea, I honestly don't see the point. There is no such thing as half-elf, only elf blooded. Meaning you of course look human. If the wish is for players to get the elven experience how would they accomplish that being elven blooded while looking completely human? It really just sounds like you'd get to play a human who has some close relationships with elves, which if I really wanted to play as an elf would not satisfy me.

That being said, I do think having an elven blooded origin would be interesting as an experience. I can see how they would have a hard time fitting in with any crowd if everyone knew who their parents were.


So, are you for it or against it? Everything about your post has confused me.  Posted Image


I like the idea, but I think it's a poor substitute for someone who really just wants to play as an elf.



I agree with you.  I think that what the OP wants is that if they are forced to play as a human, they would prefer that said human be of half-elf origin so that they can roleplay the character as such.  I understand that entirely but, I just think that if DA:I had gone in a direction where different races were a possibility, they would have.



Well now, from what I understand half-elves have entirely different problems than elves, primarily due to the fact that the elves don't accept them and that humans who know their heritage don't either.

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Well, I play humans exclusivly anyway, unless cyborg is an option. So I'm am just fine with with human being the only race choice.

However, I think the elf-bloodied human background is a definite possibility. And I think the same rule applies to dwarf-human pairings (dwarf+human= human child), so playing a human descended from a dwarf would work to.

It would be interesting how such a background would affect the gameplay. Perhaps having a special dialogue option that says "My dad/mom was a dwarf/elf" when dealing with members of either race. Dailish are known to at least tolerate elf-blooded humans, though I have no idea how dwarves would react.

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Hmm, while I don't have a problem with playing a human, the origin suggested by the OP does interest me. I'd totally be up for playing that and I think it wouldn't be impossible to pull off for Bioware, considering human/elven offspring always looks human or at least very nearly so.

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Faerunner wrote...

... If we can experience the cultural background of the elves, I think I can live with it...


Ilike the idea of Half Elf. They look like human, so no estetic and cinematic problem. But the character is non blind as all the human about the Elf condition, or, if Dalish, Elf culture.

it would be a good idea.

Sadly, is a good idea. I don't think Bioware would take it.

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"Elves are a lithe pointy eared people who excel at poverty." - Sten

No thank you.

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Medhia Nox wrote...

"Elves are a lithe pointy eared people who excel at poverty." - Sten

No thank you.


I thought that one started with "People are complicated. They cannot be summarized for easy reference in the manner of... "

On the other hand, my reaction to that one is that the elves totally can be.

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@Riverdaleswhiteflash: It does - but I really felt he was being sardonic. It "is" Stens way.

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Medhia Nox wrote...

"Elves are a lithe pointy eared people who excel at poverty." - Sten

No thank you.


I think Xil came up with a good compromise for people who prefer elven protagonists, since Bioware seems incapable of restoring Origins to Dragon Age. I don't know why they decided to make another Dragon Age game with an exclusively human protagonist. Elves, Dwarves, and Kossith would be ideal options for the player. Personally, I'd prefer a Dalish mage protagonist over another human of Andrastian faith.

Someone like Feynriel sounds better, and more interesting, than yet another Andrastian human.

Modifié par LobselVith8, 21 octobre 2012 - 04:13 .


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LobselVith8 wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

"Elves are a lithe pointy eared people who excel at poverty." - Sten

No thank you.


I think Xil came up with a good compromise for people who prefer elven protagonists, since Bioware seems incapable of restoring Origins to Dragon Age. I don't know why they decided to make another Dragon Age game with an exclusively human protagonist. Elves, Dwarves, and Kossith would be ideal options for the player. Personally, I'd prefer a Dalish mage protagonist over another human of Andrastian faith.

Someone like Feynriel sounds better, and more interesting, than yet another Andrastian human.


Because they surely wouldn't make the said half-elf Andrastian. Wait, they'd totally do it.
The fact that the PC is human isn't related to the PC being Andrastian. They could make Andrastian elf, Kossith and dwarf PC.

Modifié par hhh89, 21 octobre 2012 - 04:19 .


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hhh89 wrote...

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LobselVith8 wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

"Elves are a lithe pointy eared people who excel at poverty." - Sten

No thank you.


I think Xil came up with a good compromise for people who prefer elven protagonists, since Bioware seems incapable of restoring Origins to Dragon Age. I don't know why they decided to make another Dragon Age game with an exclusively human protagonist. Elves, Dwarves, and Kossith would be ideal options for the player. Personally, I'd prefer a Dalish mage protagonist over another human of Andrastian faith.

Someone like Feynriel sounds better, and more interesting, than yet another Andrastian human.


Because they surely wouldn't make the said half-elf Andrasian. Wait, they'd totally do it.




Most half-elves are Andrastian. Most elves are Andrastian.

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Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

 

Because they surely wouldn't make the said half-elf Andrasian. Wait, they'd totally do it.




Most half-elves are Andrastian. Most elves are Andrastian.


I know. My post wasn't meant to accuse Bioware.

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I'd agree with that. I think it sounds like it's part of the OP's point -- "If I can't play as an elf, can I at least play as a human who identifies him/herself with elven culture?"

She'd probably be the first to say she'd rather just play an elf in DAIII, but barring that this would be her preference.

That would be the case, yes.

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Felya87 wrote...

Faerunner wrote...

... If we can experience the cultural background of the elves, I think I can live with it...


Ilike the idea of Half Elf. They look like human, so no estetic and cinematic problem. But the character is non blind as all the human about the Elf condition, or, if Dalish, Elf culture.

it would be a good idea.

Sadly, is a good idea. I don't think Bioware would take it.


Logically, I agree with you.

Emotionally, I'm still smarting over not being able to play an elf. :/

I also worry that even if BioWare considered it, they would either discard it (as you said) or they would **** it up. Being a half elf would probably lose its punch if they chose to ignore the elven upbringing in favour of focusing on the human part of the heritage, like just having an elven parent who's conveniently absent (like Malcolm for Hawke) with an other-wise all human upbringing, or choose to depict the elves as being Oh So Mean for not fully accepting a human into their midst (like they do the Dalish). Knowing BioWare, they would try to slant the half-elven human to sympathize with humans and decide the elves DESERVE their poverty. (Hey, they did it all throughout DA2, why not DA3?)

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I'm confused as to why a human would identify with elvish culture. Why would anyone want to excel at poverty and being pawns of nobles (Chevalier style)? o_O

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BlueMagitek wrote...

I'm confused as to why a human would identify with elvish culture. Why would anyone want to excel at poverty and being pawns of nobles (Chevalier style)? o_O

If they were raised in it and prefer that. Simple enough.

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If there's a human and an elf in a relationship, what sane parent would raise their child in the cesspool that is an Alienage if there is another option?

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BlueMagitek wrote...

If there's a human and an elf in a relationship, what sane parent would raise their child in the cesspool that is an Alienage if there is another option?

Most elves prefer the Alienage over being caught up in human bigotry. And it's entirely possible that the human parent won't be present, or just won't want to take their loved one away from their own culture.

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"Sorry darling, I'm afraid I would like to stay here, where drunken nobles can abduct our brides on our wedding days and where I can live in absolute squalor with our child".

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And elf families do exist in Lothering, among humans. Just ask Surana.