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[LobselVith8]

Well, Blue, Slim Couldry was from the Denerim Alienage, and it's inferred that he's half-elf.

Regardless of where the child is raised, I can imagine he (or she) can care about their heritage. I'm sure if Hawke and Merrill had a child, she would teach her child about the People, the Creators, and about other aspects of her culture.

[Xilizhra]

BlueMagitek wrote...

"Sorry darling, I'm afraid I would like to stay here, where drunken nobles can abduct our brides on our wedding days and where I can live in absolute squalor with our child".

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And elf families do exist in Lothering, among humans. Just ask Surana.

IIRC, Surana grew up in the Alienage as well. And it's entirely possible that the human parent isn't around anymore.

[BlueMagitek]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Well, Blue, Slim Couldry was from the Denerim Alienage, and it's inferred that he's half-elf.

Regardless of where the child is raised, I can imagine he (or she) can care about their heritage. I'm sure if Hawke and Merrill had a child, she would teach her child about the People, the Creators, and about other aspects of her culture.

Yes, and he exemplifies the elf traditions of breaking into places and stealing things.  Truly that is worthy of admiration. 

Merrill is a Dalish elf, not a city elf. 

Xilizhra wrote...

IIRC, Surana grew up in the Alienage as well. And it's entirely possible that the human parent isn't around anymore.

Yes, you can choose where Surana came from in the Mage Origins.  Which doesn't change the point that humans and elves seemed to have lived together in Lothering.

[LobselVith8]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Just ask Surana.

I asked, and my Surana tells me he's from the Denerim Alienage.

Seriously, you have the freedom to chose whether Surana is from Denerim, Lothering, or that you don't remember. Regardless, I can imagine a child from a union between an elf and a human could care about his heritage, like Feynriel did.

[Caiden012]

BlueMagitek wrote...

If there's a human and an elf in a relationship, what sane parent would raise their child in the cesspool that is an Alienage if there is another option?

Are you assuming that every elf lives in the Alienage?

[BlueMagitek]

Caiden012 wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

If there's a human and an elf in a relationship, what sane parent would raise their child in the cesspool that is an Alienage if there is another option?

Are you assuming that every elf lives in the Alienage?

We do see the child of the Elf Servant from the HN Origin in the Denerim alienage.  Well, you are right, Zevran did live in a Brothel and sold to the Crows.

That does not seem much of a step up. 

[LobselVith8]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Merrill is a Dalish elf, not a city elf.

Technically, she becomes a city elf when she moves into the Kirkwall Alienage.

And Slim gives the Tears of Andraste to the local Chantry. He guides The Warden to rob and humiliate Loghain's allies. He isn't a villain.

[Caiden012]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Caiden012 wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

If there's a human and an elf in a relationship, what sane parent would raise their child in the cesspool that is an Alienage if there is another option?

Are you assuming that every elf lives in the Alienage?

We do see the child of the Elf Servant from the HN Origin in the Denerim alienage.  Well, you are right, Zevran did live in a Brothel and sold to the Crows.

That does not seem much of a step up. 

When did the Dalish suddenly dissappear from the game?

[BlueMagitek]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Technically, she becomes a city elf when she moves into the Kirkwall Alienage.

And Slim gives the Tears of Andraste to the local Chantry. He guides The Warden to rob and humiliate Loghain's allies. He isn't a villain.

Ah, but she doesn't embody the culture of the City Elves. 

...so Slim embodies the City Elf traditions of breaking in and thievery?

EDIT:

Given the attitudes of the Dalish in DA:O, I really don't know if a human would be accepted by them in the tribe.  And then you'd have the problem of how the child became the PC of Inquisitor.

Modifié par BlueMagitek, 22 octobre 2012 - 03:24 .

[Eveangaline]

BlueMagitek wrote...

If there's a human and an elf in a relationship, what sane parent would raise their child in the cesspool that is an Alienage if there is another option?

Wasn't there some notes you found in the alianage in DA:O that said how elves that tried to move out of the aliange tended to get 'discouraged' by humans

and by that I mean their houses got burned down.

[Iakus]

My thoughts are it's entirely possible that an "elf blooded" human could be a background in DA3. However, since the protagonist is a "human" that would most likely mean he/she would have grown up in a human culture rather than an alienage

Still, that could make for interesting interactions with both humans and elfves who knew "the secret"

[BlueMagitek]

Eveangaline wrote...

Wasn't there some notes you found in the alianage in DA:O that said how elves that tried to move out of the aliange tended to get 'discouraged' by humans

and by that I mean their houses got burned down.

Some humans treat their elven servants decently, no reason it can't pass off for that.  Half Elfs are human biologically, yeah?

Faerunner wrote...


If they were raised by elves and/or accepted and treated better by elves than humans. 

If
the elven parent has a hand in the child's upbringing, the child will
have to live in the Alienage since  Andrastian humans don't allow elves
to rise in society, and it's likely the human parent would lose face by
choosing to have a
child with an elf. (Think real-world interracial
relationships before the Civil Rights Movement.) 

Plus, if the
half-elven child loves their elven parent and/or relatives, I see no
reason why s/he wouldn't empathize with them and want them to gain more
rights and opportunities instead of just saying, "Sucks to be you, I can
pass for a human so I'm outta here." Slim Cauldry is a human who was
raised in the Alienage and he identifies himself as one of them and
extresses outrage by how "those bastards oppress my people."

Fair enough. 

[PsychoBlonde]

Xilizhra wrote...

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

No.

And why not?

If the most interesting thing about me is that one of my parents happened to be an elf, my background is too boring to be included.

I'm sure there will be some kind of "escaped slave" or "wretched orphan" background option.  Just take that one, give your character a pointy chin, and make up an imaginary elven parent for yourself.  Boom.

[iSignIn]

How about 1/4096 Elf?

As in, having an Elf great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparent?

I feel that would be most interesting. For people who are fascinated by genealogies.

Modifié par iSignIn, 23 octobre 2012 - 12:23 .

[ImperatorMortis]

Half Elves in Dragon Age are just Humans with an Elven mother or father. It would make for a nice background option for people who really want it, but if you think it will have an affect on your personal appearance you're mistaken.

Also are background options confirmed or something? 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 23 octobre 2012 - 12:36 .

[Eveangaline]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Half Elves in Dragon Age are just Humans with an Elven mother or father. It would make for a nice background option for people who really want it, but if you think it will have an affect on your personal appearance you're mistaken.

Also are background options confirmed or something? 

No one is saying it will effect their appearance, and yes they are confirmed if I recall correctly

Modifié par Eveangaline, 23 octobre 2012 - 12:45 .

[ImperatorMortis]

Eveangaline wrote...
No one is saying it will effect their appearance, and yes they are confirmed if I recall correctly

Was just mentioning it in case someone had the wrong idea. 

Eveangaline wrote...
and yes they are confirmed if I recall correctly

Thats pretty cool. Were there other confirmed stuff, and do you have a link? 

[Eveangaline]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...
No one is saying it will effect their appearance, and yes they are confirmed if I recall correctly

Was just mentioning it in case someone had the wrong idea. 

Eveangaline wrote...
and yes they are confirmed if I recall correctly

Thats pretty cool. Were there other confirmed stuff, and do you have a link? 

Everyone's talking about it as an option because we could be connected with the elves but still look totally human, don't worry, we know

but backgrounds were confirmed at edmonton apparently, you can find the info here http://kotaku.com/59...-dragon-age-iii

Specifically where it says "Asked how much control players would have over their character, lead
writer David Gaider said "You will be human," before adding that
"backgrounds will be in Dragon Age 3 even though you will be
human, it's not playable but it does significant impact on the story."
That again was according to Lee's twitter feed."

Modifié par Eveangaline, 23 octobre 2012 - 12:56 .

[ImperatorMortis]

Eveangaline wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...
No one is saying it will effect their appearance, and yes they are confirmed if I recall correctly

Was just mentioning it in case someone had the wrong idea. 

Eveangaline wrote...
and yes they are confirmed if I recall correctly

Thats pretty cool. Were there other confirmed stuff, and do you have a link? 

Everyone's talking about it as an option because we could be connected with the elves but still look totally human, don't worry, we know

but backgrounds were confirmed at edmonton apparently, you can find the info here http://kotaku.com/59...-dragon-age-iii

Specifically where it says "Asked how much control players would have over their character, lead
writer David Gaider said "You will be human," before adding that
"backgrounds will be in Dragon Age 3 even though you will be
human, it's not playable but it does significant impact on the story."
That again was according to Lee's twitter feed."

Thats really cool, thanks for the info!

Btw I'm a fan of Homestuck too. :3

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Xilizhra wrote...

Forced to play as a human? Irritating, but not unsalvageable, as half-elves count as human. In this way, we could have a city elf or Dalish cultural background in some way and still not automatically get thrown out of whatever exalted position that only humans could occupy, thus removing some of the pain from Bioware's latest gutstab. I implore you to go after this possibility.

I have to say, I like this idea. If it's something well-known about the character, it could be something that others give her/him a hard time about and if not.

Based on the one half-elf in DA II, half-breeds look rather human.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

No.

... and if it was available as one origin choice amidst several others, would its very existence bother you? Nobody would be twisting your arm to play as a half-elf.

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 23 octobre 2012 - 04:39 .

[darrylzero]

I also think it would be nice. Rivaini would probably be my first choice background, "has an elven parent" my second. Either, ideally, would be a smuggler.

Either way, having a background trait for ethnic, regional, and/or class background would be great, particularly in the "two-tiered" way some have suggested that also gives some more occupational info such as city watch, mercenary, smuggler, priest, poacher, pirate, etc.

Modifié par darrylzero, 23 octobre 2012 - 06:35 .

[Patchwork]

I did have a Hawke that I headcanoned as being 1/4 elf and made a point of a Hawke/Fenris/Carver/Merrill party throughout Act 1. It was my dalish import so it just felt right.

I'd like the option to be officially elf-blooded but as someone posted there's bound to be a orphaned option. If I have to I can headcanon again, probably on the same import.

[SilentK]

I think this is a very interesting idea. Personally have thought a lot of about how you fit in with the people surrounding you. Would the the PC grow up with the elves, or with the humans? Would this character feel at home at either place? Would the PC feel a connection to other elves out in the world, or would this be a shameful secret never to be mentioned.

Could be interesting. I mostly play human characters, but this could be fun to play just to see where it would end up.