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[Guanxii]

Why not give the Krogan Shaman [Adept] Reave Instead of Warp?

In my view replacing Warp with Reave on the Krogan Shaman Adept would be necessary in order to a) bring the class' overall survivability up to par with the Krogan Battlemaster and to help differentiate it [in particular] from the Human and other Adept classes as well.

What concerns me is that as it stands the Sharman is not a viable alternative to either imo lacking a lot of the durability of the Battlemaster and the better power synergy with singularity/recharge time of the Human Adept. And as the Shaman doesn't have any unique powers/combos of his own he can't stand on his own merits either. So unless BioWare do something to liven up this class I can see it being left far behind in the coming weeks and months.

 My suggestion for the class would be to switch Warp for Reave like this:

Barrier
Reave
Shockwave
Berserker
Rage

Which would greatly enhance his overall durability, uniqueness and biotic explosion (fun) potential.

Thoughts and suggestions for the class?

Modifié par Guanxii, 21 octobre 2012 - 03:58 .

[davidman92]

Barrier and Reave with Rage DR on top of 1000 base shields? Yes please.

[Captain J. Sunshine]

I say get rid of shockwave because it's bugged, but I don't have him yet so my opinions don't matter.

[Tyrannus00]

Adepts, in general, are supposed to be a little squishier. The krogan shaman means he's squishy compared to Krogan.

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So not at all.

[DeadeyeCYclops]

reave, no Dark channel, yes

[3XT3RM1N4TUS]

Slam, please.

[DullahansXMark]

Pull + Shockwave would make the best combo detonation of all time ever.

But, OP: It's WREAV, not Reave. If you get me. Do you get me?

[Godzilla87]

I think reave would make him too powerful. It would give him the constant ability to do massive BE on multiple targets at once. The Drell has to have grenades to hit his and the Justicar has to have her enemies in a bubble. If shockwave was at its orignal range maybe. But as it stands now it would shadow all other adepts.

[Misfiring]

Just no. Reave + Barrier + Rage would be insane. Way too OP.

[Red Panda]

Tyrannus00 wrote...

Adepts, in general, are supposed to be a little squishier. The krogan shaman means he's squishy compared to Krogan.

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So not at all.

You're wrong.

We need a bastion for adepts.

[DullahansXMark]

Misfiring wrote...

Just no. Reave + Barrier + Rage would be insane. Way too OP.

Damage Reduction cannot exceed 90%. You can get that from Tech Armor and cover.

[JiceDuresh]

Stop asking for Slam, BW already said they aren't going to put it into MP cause it would be as usefull as pull is currently.

I just played a few matches with him and I really don't know what people are complaining about, warp + Shockwave works fine to destroy any armored mook with BE's and just warp or shock wave takes care of the rest, with a 30% damage increase from Barrier when applying them.

Damn kids be spoiled yo.

[mybudgee]

Ultimate tank Krogan. Hell 2 tha yes!

[BACON4BREAKFAST]

Already has Barrier for DR, plus warp's armor weakening ability on top of incendiary ammo is too awesome.

[Zero132132]

I like warp. Been using incendiary rounds on the Collector SMG... still don't know whether warp+incendiary is a glitch or just amazingly effective.

[ToLazy4Name]

It'd be a great class, but it MIGHT be OP. He's great as is, but what i don't understand is why people want him to have Slam. It was useless in the SP, and it'd be equally useless in the MP.

[Apl_Juice]

KA is really good as is. Nothing too new, but still a very good character.

[Tyrannus00]

OperatingWookie wrote...

Tyrannus00 wrote...

Adepts, in general, are supposed to be a little squishier. The krogan shaman means he's squishy compared to Krogan.

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So not at all.

You're wrong.

We need a bastion for adepts.

Why? Do you only play adepts or something? 

[Melee or Die]

Is it even possible without a DLC/patch to do this to character(I hope so)? Godzilla87 makes a great point, that'd be B.S.for the Drell Adept and Justicar, though. Also, I feel that's the N7 Fury's specialty and would out-class her as well. We need classes that are unique, otherwise, this happens: We start asking Bioware to make 'em better. Besides, the Shaman's specialty is big-damage biotics.

If they did do this (I feel they most likely won't/shouldn't), what's to stop people from flooding them with requests and other nonesense (much like now llooll). The Krogan Shaman isn't a game-changer, but isn't a bad character either. I'd personally prefer (if they can) they fix Shockwave's consistency, the radius evo. and the fact (for similar powers as well) Swarmers/Seekers take the hit(s). Other than that, I am a bit underwhelmed with the Shaman's lack of (what I feel should have been) Krogan-Biotics.

Off topic: They should add more unique passive trees like some of the N7's have.

[Zero132132]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

It'd be a great class, but it MIGHT be OP. He's great as is, but what i don't understand is why people want him to have Slam. It was useless in the SP, and it'd be equally useless in the MP.

Are you kidding? Slam would be WAY more useless in the MP than in the SP. Shepard came up against like 20 banshees in the main story and maybe 40 Brutes. Most enemies were low-level mooks, so slam actually affected them. In the MP, it would be almost entirely useless.

Seriously, pull was useful in the SP. My insanity run consisted primarily of getting behind cover, using pull, using throw, and going like that until there was just one armored target left. They'd die to warp+throw instead. Absurdly easy, because pull was actually pretty effective.

[SpockLives]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Misfiring wrote...

Just no. Reave + Barrier + Rage would be insane. Way too OP.

Damage Reduction cannot exceed 90%. You can get that from Tech Armor and cover.

Proof?  Sure, the volus' shield boost description says it cannot exceed 90% from that power, but what about damage reduction from other sources?  Have you tested it personally or can you link to confirmation?  I am genuinely curious.

[JimiPepper]

Barrier and Reave would be a bit overkill as far as DR goes. I really like the class as is. I use max debuff Warp, 5 points in Barrier to get the shield recharge speed up, and level three Shockwave for detonations and some crowd control, then lots of weapon damage (slap on a shotgun) and full health/shield fitness. His durability is just fine.

[Lynx7725]

Warp + Shockwave produces the biggest Biotic Explosions IIRC. That seems in character with the Krogan, who is probably more concerned about making the biggest boom than survivability.

[Asebstos]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Misfiring wrote...

Just no. Reave + Barrier + Rage would be insane. Way too OP.

Damage Reduction cannot exceed 90%. You can get that from Tech Armor and cover.

So that means the KA should be able to do it while doing anything anywhere?

[Lynx7725]

SpockLives wrote...
Proof?  Sure, the volus' shield boost description says it cannot exceed 90% from that power, but what about damage reduction from other sources?  Have you tested it personally or can you link to confirmation?  I am genuinely curious.

DR can go above 90% when multiple players stack various effects. I think someone tested a Krogan Sentinel, got it up to about 140% or so. This is as the DR formula leaks about 25% of damage, so 100% DR would not prevent all damage.