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[Leomerya12]

This is but a minor gripe, but is there any reason why there
is no consistency to how words/names are pronounced by voice actors in the
games? (Accents aren’t an excuse; I’ve heard NPCs of similar nationality
pronounce words differently). For example; there is a discrepancy regarding the
pronunciation of the name “Nuncio”; some say “Noon-cee-oh” and some say
“Nahn-cee-oh”. Likewise with Dalish words. I think this is because Americans
generally pronounce vowels differently than the rest of the world. Recording is
likely finished by now, but in the future for non-English verbiage, Latin vowel
sounds should always be used. I’m a bilingual American (learned Spanish in
school and lived in Italy
and Mexico for
some time) and as such, anytime I hear a foreign dialect pronounced with
American articulation, it pulls my attention, which is very distracting.

EDIT: I'm pointing out inconsistency in dialect, not language.

 

Other than that, rock on, BW!

Modifié par Leomerya12, 22 octobre 2012 - 07:53 .

[GloriousDame]

I definitely agree.

Andaran atish'an
Anderanateeshan
Andrann atehshn
Andahran ahtishonn

(And so many other ways even when it was being said by members of the same clan)

Apostate
Apos-tate
Ah-pos-tate

D:<

Apostate is the one that really bothers me.

[Leomerya12]

ArinTheirinCousland wrote...

I definitely agree.

Andaran atish'an
Anderanateeshan
Andrann atehshn
Andahran ahtishonn

(And so many other ways even when it was being said by members of the same clan)

Apostate
Apos-tate
Ah-pos-tate

D:<

Apostate is the one that really bothers me.

Glad to know I wasn't alone.

[Quicksilver26]

everyone has different ways of saying words maybe you should just let it go not everything needs to be pronounced the same you should chill a little

[Ninja Stan]

Different voice actors will hear the pronunciation slightly differently and will translate that in their own performance slightly differently. The only way for everyone to pronounce it the exact same way is for all the actors to be in the same room together with a voice director to adjust and correct them when they are even slightly off.

Unfortunately, based on what I've seen of the recording process, it is usually not possible to get all the voice actors who need to say a particular word to be in the same room together to do this. Nor is it possible to only get voice actors who grew up in a particular region. And I wouldn't want to be the person to schedule such a thing, even if it were possible.

[Quicksilver26]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Different voice actors will hear the pronunciation slightly differently and will translate that in their own performance slightly differently. The only way for everyone to pronounce it the exact same way is for all the actors to be in the same room together with a voice director to adjust and correct them when they are even slightly off.

Unfortunately, based on what I've seen of the recording process, it is usually not possible to get all the voice actors who need to say a particular word to be in the same room together to do this. Nor is it possible to only get voice actors who grew up in a particular region. And I wouldn't want to be the person to schedule such a thing, even if it were possible.

Now that i'd pay to see.

[Leomerya12]

Thanks for the insight, Ninja Stan.
Quicksilver, I thought I was quite diplomatic, so maybe you should chill instead.

[Terrorize69]

ArinTheirinCousland wrote...

I definitely agree.

Andaran atish'an
Anderanateeshan
Andrann atehshn
Andahran ahtishonn

(And so many other ways even when it was being said by members of the same clan)

Apostate
Apos-tate
Ah-pos-tate

D:<

Apostate is the one that really bothers me.

Apositutes!

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Because not all voice actors are in the same room at the same time. So they obviously don't know how the others pronounce it compare to them.

[Quicksilver26]

Leomerya12 wrote...

Thanks for the insight, Ninja Stan.
Quicksilver, I thought I was quite diplomatic, so maybe you should chill instead.

so so did not mean it in a mean way sorry if it came off rude.

[AlexJK]

Leomerya12 wrote...

This is but a minor gripe, but is there any reason why there is no consistency to how words/names are pronounced by voice actors in the games?

Because different people pronounce words differently. Isn't that all there is to it? I mean, not trying to trivialise your point, but doesn't it add a little bit of extra character?

[Nashimura]

Hawke, Hock, Hawke, Hock.

[Wulfram]

One thing that stands out for me is when Merrill's pronunciation of Vhenadahl totally changes only a few minutes apart. I think it's during the Charade quest, with the wallop mallet?

(Eve Myles acting is generally awesome in DA2, I should say)

Though foreigners pronouncing stuff wrong is fine.

[mousestalker]

Pronunciation in the real world is inconsistent.

I pronounce words differently depending on the intended audience. When I'm discussing debt with my fellow attorneys I pronounce lien 'leen'. If I'm speaking with non-attorneys I say 'lee-yen (2 syllables)'. The idea is to be clear about the concept.

Similarly with the general public I use an American Standard accent. With family, I use a Coastal Southern accent. No one on these forums here would likely understand my Mother and I speaking with each other.

[Fast Jimmy]

I suppose the writers could write all dialogue in phoentics instead of regular text?

I mean... that could be fun.

[Palipride47]

mousestalker wrote...

Pronunciation in the real world is inconsistent.

I pronounce words differently depending on the intended audience. When I'm discussing debt with my fellow attorneys I pronounce lien 'leen'. If I'm speaking with non-attorneys I say 'lee-yen (2 syllables)'. The idea is to be clear about the concept.

Similarly with the general public I use an American Standard accent. With family, I use a Coastal Southern accent. No one on these forums here would likely understand my Mother and I speaking with each other.

I get this complaint about pronounciation with Arlathan and the elven words, but that was a design and lore change from devs (new accents, etc) and I like the new way better, to be honest.

But yeah, if we are going to complain about different people pronouncing Hawke differently, that seems silly.<_

@ mousestalker, No one could understand my accent, and my pronounciations, when I moved, literally 40 miles away (From Baltimore, complete with horrible accent, to DC). Even now, I pronounce rural "rule." (Baltimore accents require the dropping of many syllables ) Mother hates it. 

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I suppose the writers could write all dialogue in phoentics instead of regular text? 

I mean... that could be fun.

I look up that kind of stuff (linguistics and what not) for giggles. That would actually be fun for me. 

Modifié par Palipride47, 22 octobre 2012 - 04:57 .

[Beerfish]

So is the op saying that all humans pronounce words and names the same? Hmph...that's news to me.

[mousestalker]

Palipride47 wrote...

@ mousestalker, No one could understand my accent, and my pronounciations, when I moved, literally 40 miles away (From Baltimore, complete with horrible accent, to DC). Even now, I pronounce rural "rule." (Baltimore accents require the dropping of many syllables ) Mother hates it. 

I look up that kind of stuff (linguistics and what not) for giggles. That would actually be fun for me. 

Agreed, linguistics is a lot of fun.

When I was little, we visited my uncle and his family in Balmer (Baltimore). He took us to a seafood place where we had really good crab cakes and the waitresses all had pure balmer accents. Good times!



Back on topic, inconsistency in pronunciation really shouldn't be an issue as long as the voice actor stays in character. It's when a VA does more than one character and their voices begin to bleed into each other that things start to unravel a bit.

Modifié par mousestalker, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:17 .

[Palipride47]

Corvus I wrote...

Could also be very confusing. For example:

If it were not for the wisdom of Henry Tudor to marry Elizabeth of York, the war of the roses would have ultimately changed the way English is spoken around the world.

Or the way my native English sounds:

If it wor not fert wisda o' 'enry tudor ta marry elizabeth o' york, t' war o' t' roses 'ood av ultimately changed t' way english is spoken aroun' t' world.

Funny, some British drama professor told me that American accents were closer to some sections from 1600s-ish England accents because of the few people concentrated in one place that moved + isolation from motherland. Wonder if that was true

if it werr knot four the wisdum of Henree Toodoor to mayree......(learning about different accents is fun! - does this sound close to anyone in Britain, regionally, out of curiousity, if you are British)

Modifié par Palipride47, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:12 .

[Palipride47]

mousestalker wrote..

Agreed, linguistics is a lot of fun.

When I was little, we visited my uncle and his family in Balmer (Baltimore). He took us to a seafood place where we had really good crab cakes and the waitresses all had pure balmer accents. Good times!

Balmer is the ONLY place to get good crab cakes (in my head )

I went to California, and ordered a crab cake. It has carrots in it  and I was sad, and learned never to order crab cakes anywhere else 

And the closest I could get to Old Bay on my fries was using my amo's homemade spices that he sold to some Greek restaurants. 

mousestalker wrote...

Back on topic, incosistency in pronunciation really shouldn't be an issue as long as the voice actor stays in character. It's when a VA does more than one character and their voices begin to bleed into each other that things start to unravel a bit.

Sorry, topic: 

Indeed, we forgot that for multiple VOs doing multiple characters, you kinda need different accents so EVERYONE (incluing the oblivious, like me) aren't all like:

Hey, that's Leske!
Hey, that's Wynne!
Hey, that's Tranquil from Ostagar!
Hey, that's mabari in camp!

Still happens.....but if I notice, they've failed 

Modifié par Palipride47, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:20 .

[Emzamination]

I never even noticed this before and now I'm going to be compelled to focus on it.Why o' why did I read this thread?

Modifié par Emzamination, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:17 .

[Chris Priestly]

So, how do you pronounce "Aluminum"?

In Canada and the US, it is pronounced "ah-loo-min-um". In England it is usually pronounced "Ah-loo-minnie-um"

Just pointing out that even within the same language, the word spelled the same way can be pronounced in different ways. It's still the same thing, and the world keeps turning no matter how it is pronounced.