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[Emzamination]

Chris Priestly wrote...

So, how do you pronounce "Aluminum"?

In Canada and the US, it is pronounced "ah-loo-min-um". In England it is usually pronounced "Ah-loo-minnie-um"

Just pointing out that even within the same language, the word spelled the same way can be pronounced in different ways. It's still the same thing, and the world keeps turning no matter how it is pronounced.

Hmph, I didn't think about that... Thanks chris, my compulsion is broken.

[Palipride47]

Corvus I wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

So, how do you pronounce "Aluminum"?

In Canada and the US, it is pronounced "ah-loo-min-um". In England it is usually pronounced "Ah-loo-minnie-um"

Just pointing out that even within the same language, the word spelled the same way can be pronounced in different ways. It's still the same thing, and the world keeps turning no matter how it is pronounced.

What you say adds to the enjoyment and flavour of the game, but it is not necessarily true. The reason Americans had to have their own dictionary is because as early as the 1700 the Proper English was no longer usable by Americans in their foreign treaties and had to have its own American definitions.

History is awesome, thanks for the info, and your response!

[Icesong]

Chris Priestly wrote...

So, how do you pronounce "Aluminum"?

In Canada and the US, it is pronounced "ah-loo-min-um". In England it is usually pronounced "Ah-loo-minnie-um"

Just pointing out that even within the same language, the word spelled the same way can be pronounced in different ways. It's still the same thing, and the world keeps turning no matter how it is pronounced.

The pronunciation of names is usually respected across dialects. I just moved to MA from Texas and there's a city here called Quincy that I would pronounce as "kwincee"; come to find out it's pronounced "kwinzee". But they also pronounce "water" as "watah" and I'm not about to do that. 

Modifié par Icesong, 26 octobre 2012 - 08:28 .

[ianvillan]

Chris Priestly wrote...

So, how do you pronounce "Aluminum"?

In Canada and the US, it is pronounced "ah-loo-min-um". In England it is usually pronounced "Ah-loo-minnie-um"

Just pointing out that even within the same language, the word spelled the same way can be pronounced in different ways. It's still the same thing, and the world keeps turning no matter how it is pronounced.

Well the english spell it as Aluminium so that is why we say it as ''Ah-loo-minnie-um''

[Darkstorne]

Tomato.

[Potato Cat]

Some misproununciations I have to say I actually preferred. They made the words sound cooler. Ah-pos-tates, where every syllable sounded hot, that was way better than the usual apostates. BORING. But they need to sort out the Elven language if you ask me, try to keep it how they said the words in Origins and I'll be fine.

Oh and fun fact, the spelling and pronunciation of "alumin-IUM" was preferred by the discoverer of the element.

[CaisLaochach]

If you're going to use Irish actors for the Dalish (fair enough, we're awesome) please don't use a fiddle-dee accent. Please.

[Palipride47]

Elfman wrote...

Some misproununciations I have to say I actually preferred. They made the words sound cooler. Ah-pos-tates, where every syllable sounded hot, that was way better than the usual apostates. BORING. But they need to sort out the Elven language if you ask me, try to keep it how they said the words in Origins and I'll be fine.

Oh and fun fact, the spelling and pronunciation of "alumin-IUM" was preferred by the discoverer of the element.

Funny, I actually liked DA2 elvish pronounciations better. Diff'rent strokes, I guess. 

I actually liked some of the supposed "mispronounciations" of names better too, in some cases. I liked E-sold but than E-sold-e. 

ClaomhScathach wrote...

If you're going to use Irish actors for the Dalish (fair enough, we're awesome) please don't use a fiddle-dee accent. Please.

Some of them were Welsh too. But I'm not sure what you mean by fiddle-dee.

Modifié par Palipride47, 22 octobre 2012 - 06:56 .

[guardian_titan]

Every person is different as is the way they pronounce things.  My friend often says the word "idea" as "idear".  She never even notices that she does it.  I chalk it up to the areas she was raised in so yeah, accent and upbringing does factor into pronunciations.  A person's mouth can also factor into it since everyone has their own way they move it while talking.  Some people may roll their Rs, other's don't.  If you've ever seen the American cartoon Family Guy, watch some of the conversations with Stewie and Brian regarding how Stewie emphasizes the H in words (such as wheat).  Yeah, Stewie does it on purpose to bug Brian, but it's an example of how each person is different.  Ever listen to Japanese trying to say R words?  Princess sounds like Plincess because they have a hell of a time with Rs.  As another example, Germans can't say squirrel.  Look at Neanderthal, too.  How many say it as knee-an-der-thall?  It's knee-an-der-tall.  The "h" is not pronounced and yet many say it anyway.  Illinois is another one.  The "s" is not said and yet people insist upon saying it.  Makes me think they're poorly educated as a result, but I never say so to their face.  Education and social environment for the latter 2 often plays into how a person says those things.  For the Japanese and Germans, it's how they can move their mouths and how they hear the sounds.

How can you expect us to agree upon a pronunciation for a bunch of made up words in a game when we can't even agree on pronunciation for real words half the time?  The day we can all agree on a single pronunciation for every word in existence will be the day every person in the world will say every word the same way ... including made up ones that really have no true pronunciation outside of the mind of the person who created it.  And that'll also be the day we're all the same and no longer unique.

As long as we're all unique, a pronunciation will never be agreed upon just like nothing else will ever be agreed upon.  Best to just chalk it up to everyone being different, embrace those differences, and move on.  Agree to disagree and leave it at that.

[CaisLaochach]

Palipride47 wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Some misproununciations I have to say I actually preferred. They made the words sound cooler. Ah-pos-tates, where every syllable sounded hot, that was way better than the usual apostates. BORING. But they need to sort out the Elven language if you ask me, try to keep it how they said the words in Origins and I'll be fine.

Oh and fun fact, the spelling and pronunciation of "alumin-IUM" was preferred by the discoverer of the element.

Funny, I actually liked DA2 elvish pronounciations better. Diff'rent strokes, I guess. 

I actually liked some of the supposed "mispronounciations" of names better too, in some cases. I liked E-sold but than E-sold-e. 

ClaomhScathach wrote...

If you're going to use Irish actors for the Dalish (fair enough, we're awesome) please don't use a fiddle-dee accent. Please.

Some of them were Welsh too. But I'm not sure what you mean by fiddle-dee.

Merrill's the only Welsh one I think.

Some of the other ones had dreadfully artificial sounding Irish accents. Tom Cruise levels of awfulness.

[SamaraDraven]

My peeve was Isabela calling Bianca "Bee-yank-a"... Or Duncan calling Alistair "Ali-ster"... *sigh* It's the little things. I got over it.

[Palipride47]

ClaomhScathach wrote...

Merrill's the only Welsh one I think.

Some of the other ones had dreadfully artificial sounding Irish accents. Tom Cruise levels of awfulness.

Well, there's also this

[FINE HERE]

Chris Priestly wrote...

So, how do you pronounce "Aluminum"?

In Canada and the US, it is pronounced "ah-loo-min-um". In England it is usually pronounced "Ah-loo-minnie-um"

Eddie Izzard?

[Odd Bet]

Pronunciations, even for common words, change depending on the person.

For example, I live in New Orleans, and people here can't even agree on how to pronounce the name of our own city. Generally, the accepted pronunciation is along the lines of or-lenz or or-linz, but you still hear, even from people like political figures and television personalities, everything from or-leenz to naw-linz. Even a decent number of the streets have multiple pronunciations.

Even though I notice inconsistency of pronunciation in games, I don't really think it's anything abnormal.

[Perlicka]

I like strange pronunciation sometimes i found it interesting, sometimes sexy
but i'm not english speaking, so i have strange accent too..

and there are some words which i like to say with wrong pronuciation because i like how it sounds (it sounds beter then the correct version)

... so .. different pronunciation doesn't bother me

[mousestalker]

Odd Bet wrote...

Pronunciations, even for common words, change depending on the person.

For example, I live in New Orleans, and people here can't even agree on how to pronounce the name of our own city. Generally, the accepted pronunciation is along the lines of or-lenz or or-linz, but you still hear, even from people like political figures and television personalities, everything from or-leenz to naw-linz. Even a decent number of the streets have multiple pronunciations.

Even though I notice inconsistency of pronunciation in games, I don't really think it's anything abnormal.

New Orleans has four distinct accents working at the same time. It's a wonderful city, truly lovely, just walk a few blocks and the inhabitants sound quite distinct from where you were. Walk further and the accent changes again.

Modifié par mousestalker, 22 octobre 2012 - 07:40 .

[Rpgfantasyplayer]

Odd Bet wrote...

Pronunciations, even for common words, change depending on the person.

For example, I live in New Orleans, and people here can't even agree on how to pronounce the name of our own city. Generally, the accepted pronunciation is along the lines of or-lenz or or-linz, but you still hear, even from people like political figures and television personalities, everything from or-leenz to naw-linz. Even a decent number of the streets have multiple pronunciations.

Even though I notice inconsistency of pronunciation in games, I don't really think it's anything abnormal.

Hello fellow Louisianian .  I am not from Lousiana originally.  I am from California and was transplanted here when I was in high school.  I have noticed that from the many years that I have been here everyone says things differently.  I say last names completely different than how people from here say them.  For example a last name of Robert I would pronounce Rob-ert.  But here it is pronounced as Row-bear. If you go from New Orleans to Baton Rouge (where I am) there is even a difference in pronunciation.  The closer you get to to New Orleans the more french sounding words get.  So even people from the same areas pronounce words differently.

[Leomerya12]

Chris Priestly wrote...

So, how do you pronounce "Aluminum"?

In Canada and the US, it is pronounced "ah-loo-min-um". In England it is usually pronounced "Ah-loo-minnie-um"

Just pointing out that even within the same language, the word spelled the same way can be pronounced in different ways. It's still the same thing, and the world keeps turning no matter how it is pronounced.

My point has been a bit warped. I was trying to show that in the same DIALECT, (not language) people were pronouncing words and names differently. This is a bit distracting and inauthentic to NITPICKYmulti-linguists (I admit and own it!). Generally the rest of the world uses open vowels (ie: Latin), which provide consistency. Using Latin phonetics as pronunciations for foreign words will always do you better than using American phonetics, and when I hear foreigners like the Dalish using American phonetics, it sounds weird.